Camera Rotation Stutter

[Torv]

Anyone else having a little bit of choppyness when looking around? Definitely not optimized but I'm unsure if that's the issue. The tutorial videos it shows of new attacks is buttery smooth, but I'm in the open world right now and it's nowhere near that. Varies from 95 - 150 FPS, makes me think performance isn't the culprit. Tried turning off all overlays, no dice.

Anyone else running into this? Solutions? May refund if not.

[b4dL!NkO]

i switched from dx12 to dx11 , vsync off , 144hz/fps and dont feel that problem anymore with the choppy camera

[Skylers Meth]

Originally posted by b4dL!NkO:

i switched from dx12 to dx11 , vsync off , 144hz/fps and dont feel that problem anymore with the choppy camera

You mean vulkan? Yeah nah, still does it for me. Most definitely not smooth.

[Torv]

Originally posted by makoto:

Originally posted by OS10:

Anyone else having a little bit of choppyness when looking around? Definitely not optimized but I'm unsure if that's the issue. The tutorial videos it shows of new attacks is buttery smooth, but I'm in the open world right now and it's nowhere near that. Varies from 95 - 150 FPS, makes me think performance isn't the culprit. Tried turning off all overlays, no dice.

Anyone else running into this? Solutions? May refund if not.

Hello, sorry for this inconvenience. To help dev team understand your problem, can you send a video of your issue here: https://support.focus-entmt.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Also, can you tell me which areas are particularly affected by this phenomenon? Thank you!

I apologize but I've already refunded the title due to the issue so I am no longer able to take a video. Hoping anyone else experiencing the same problem can help you with that in this thread.

This issue occurred from the very start of the game to the part where you just enter the open world. It's some form of graphical stutter. Nothing looks clean when your character is moving or camera is rotating. This problem happens on Low or High settings, V-Sync on or off, Fullscreen or Borderless,

I've confirmed overlays aren't the issue, one thing I hadn't tried was using DX11 or Vulkan, I prompted to run the game in DX12 mode. I can also tell you this has nothing to do with FPS or using a controller over a keyboard, happens on both.

[necuz]

Originally posted by makoto:

Originally posted by OS10:

Anyone else having a little bit of choppyness when looking around? Definitely not optimized but I'm unsure if that's the issue. The tutorial videos it shows of new attacks is buttery smooth, but I'm in the open world right now and it's nowhere near that. Varies from 95 - 150 FPS, makes me think performance isn't the culprit. Tried turning off all overlays, no dice.

Anyone else running into this? Solutions? May refund if not.

Hello, sorry for this inconvenience. To help dev team understand your problem, can you send a video of your issue here: https://support.focus-entmt.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Also, can you tell me which areas are particularly affected by this phenomenon? Thank you!

Video will be difficult since it won't show up in a 60 fps recording, but I'll give it a try tomorrow.

[shiqp2m]

60 frames is not an option, better but not good! developers please fix the smoothness! eyes fall out from the game!

[racerli]

What about Gsync / Freesync? I really think that’s the culprit here. The engine doesn’t support it properly, so the fps fluctuations will never be smooth. In consequence we have to lock it at 60 / 120 hz. But as 120 hz feels the same as 60 hz, it doesn’t make any difference.

[Torv]

Originally posted by racerli:

What about Gsync / Freesync? I really think that’s the culprit here. The engine doesn’t support it properly, so the fps fluctuations will never be smooth. In consequence we have to lock it at 60 / 120 hz. But as 120 hz feels the same as 60 hz, it doesn’t make any difference.

If that is the case, I'm glad I refunded. Compatibility restrictions should be clearly laid out by the developer. Not about to tweak 6 different settings and lower my FPS in an attempt to have a clear image when gaming.

[necuz]

Originally posted by necuz:

Originally posted by makoto:

Hello, sorry for this inconvenience. To help dev team understand your problem, can you send a video of your issue here: https://support.focus-entmt.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Also, can you tell me which areas are particularly affected by this phenomenon? Thank you!

Video will be difficult since it won't show up in a 60 fps recording, but I'll give it a try tomorrow.

Sorry, but I lost interest in QAing this for you when I discovered that the game also crashes regularly unless you cap fps at 60. If these are truly unknown issues then your QA just sucks. In the meantime, I'd recommend making a pinned post with known issues and workarounds.

[IchigoMait]

If your image is stuttery when looking around, either you don't have enough vram or ram (page file min amount helps against ram issues), or you're using too high texture/shadow settings or just have too high resolution setting for the hardware you use.
Also before complaining such issues, just mention what hardware you have, and if it's a laptop or pc.

Or you have some vsync issues, where the fps drops below refresh rate while vysnc is on it will cause vsync stutter, though that thing should be a non win10/11 issue, as I had that only with win7 or below.

If it's a vsync issue, just force adaptive vsync, it will disable vsync when below refresh rate, though if you get some tearing issues because of that, play the game in borderless screen mode, you can also use third party apps to force borderless mode to windowed screens.

Fast sync is also an option, but that works only in dedicated fullscreen mode.

[necuz]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

If your image is stuttery when looking around, either you don't have enough vram or ram (page file min amount helps against ram issues), also using too high texture/shadow settings.

Or you have some vsync issues, where the fps drops below refresh rate while vysnc is on it will cause vsync stutter, though that thing should be a non win10/11 issue, as I had that only with win7 or below.

If it's a vsync issue, just force adaptive vsync, it will disable vsync when below refresh rate, though if you get some tearing issues because of that, play the game in borderless screen mode, you can also use third party apps to force borderless mode to windowed screens.

Fast sync is also an option, but that works only in dedicated fullscreen mode.

The problem isn't actually the game dropping frames. All the frames are being rendered on time, but it doesn't feel smooth.

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by necuz:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

If your image is stuttery when looking around, either you don't have enough vram or ram (page file min amount helps against ram issues), also using too high texture/shadow settings.

Or you have some vsync issues, where the fps drops below refresh rate while vysnc is on it will cause vsync stutter, though that thing should be a non win10/11 issue, as I had that only with win7 or below.

If it's a vsync issue, just force adaptive vsync, it will disable vsync when below refresh rate, though if you get some tearing issues because of that, play the game in borderless screen mode, you can also use third party apps to force borderless mode to windowed screens.

Fast sync is also an option, but that works only in dedicated fullscreen mode.

The problem isn't actually the game dropping frames. All the frames are being rendered on time, but it doesn't feel smooth.

I never said any issue is because of dropped frames.

As an example fast sync literally fixes tearing issues and frame pacing issues by dropping frames that are beyond refresh rate, because there is no point trying to see or render stuff you can't actually see in the time frame of a refresh rate.

Windows 7 Aero also does that, in windows 10 and above that stopped being a thing, so borderless doesn't remove tearing anymore when vsync is disabled.

In older OS you got also frame stutters because your frames were lower than your refresh rate while vsync was on, which isn't an issue anymore with win10.

Like I said before.
Either get better hardware or lower resolution/textures/shadows. If that doesn't fix it.
Then enable adaptive vsync through your drivers with borderless window mode, or use fast sync in fullscreen mode.

Next time read before making assumptions that I've never even said.

FYI I'm playing it on a 144hz monitor limited to 85hz and use gsync for it while limiting the fps to 60. Zero tearing and no weird stutters, except when opening the map, in the map I get some weird wobbly image movement, seems gsync doesn't like that, and maybe need to force standard or fast sync to it. But as it's the map only, so don't care.

[Skylers Meth]

done all that, it still feels crap

[rofflesvanwagon]

Are the tutorial videos that pop up real time? I thought they were pre-rendered like many tutorial pop up mini windows

[R]

Originally posted by makoto:

Originally posted by OS10:

Anyone else having a little bit of choppyness when looking around? Definitely not optimized but I'm unsure if that's the issue. The tutorial videos it shows of new attacks is buttery smooth, but I'm in the open world right now and it's nowhere near that. Varies from 95 - 150 FPS, makes me think performance isn't the culprit. Tried turning off all overlays, no dice.

Anyone else running into this? Solutions? May refund if not.

Hello, sorry for this inconvenience. To help dev team understand your problem, can you send a video of your issue here: https://support.focus-entmt.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Also, can you tell me which areas are particularly affected by this phenomenon? Thank you!

Hi. In this video, during the analyze is explained what happens:

https://youtu.be/0AvBPMT_wS0?t=215

[Skylers Meth]

I simply won't be playing this any further until they wake the fk up and fix it.