The questionable things about the True Ending.

[applenta]

I've been thinking about the logic of the true ending.

I find the most unacceptable thing is that the progressive mankind of the future would attempt to kill Atri in cold blood (again) instead of letting them have their happiness.

Ethical - Everyone knows (Natsu's whole town to start with) that Atri is sleeping in Eden, you can't just kill sentient people for economic reason, especially now that the world has a full force of sentient robot watching over it, not without drawing their ire, by taking away basically her real life equivalent of medical support, and it's hard for anyone visiting Eden not seeing a girl sleeping in that conspicuous capsule, who not only is famous herself in the world but also has many famous and influential friends (at least 2 top scientists, 1 mayor, not sure if there isn't more), it's hard for her life story not to wide spreads across the world, like her powering and sustaining a whole town for probably many decades, spearheading the technology that the 3/4 rest of the world find themselves still too cool to live on, plus at least rumors about the personal life of her friendship circle consisting of several world famous persons, maybe celebrity trending isn't a thing in that world.

Economy - Not everything is economy driven, imagine the Russian government pulling down Lenin's mausoleum, USA government scuttling the USS Constitution because it costs them money.

Natsu is only dying because he refuses medical treatment to die with Atri because they are trying to kill Atri (again ! give the poor girl some slack, buster), dying at 77 is kinda under average in an advanced futuristic society with developed genetic and cybernetic technology.

Atri seemed to be able to surf the internet the whole time, why couldn't they stay in touch with each other via social network like Facebook, Zoom meeting, wouldn't be different than dating couples across our globe. Or at least install hologram for her to appear and talk in person like Star Trek.

Natsu could use his "experimental" mind interface for that 1 day, plus more and more, like years, decades, or even centuries if that station isn't scuttled, one word from powerful people like him and no station can ever get scuttled, let alone a historic landmark like Eden, one that Natsu probably also has inheritance right from his grandmother, no matter how inefficient, hydro electric is still free power, free money, and can't them genius just beach it if its too broken to float and use it as free housing there?

Robotic technology has become much more advanced and "high performance" than Atri's yet no one in the world could ever figure out to repair or overclock her artifitially set lifespan, as her physical body is actually mean to be used for much longer than that (this arbitrary restriction would seem to be a violation of the new anti robot discrimination law mentioned by Kokoro, should it be updated), or transfer Atri's mind into a new healthy body, while it is evidence that Natsu could transfer his "spoiled brat" human mind to a whole island's machine network and basically hacked its central control unit that is Atri, as if the whole world is full of only 17 years old drop out students like he was at the time.

Natsu can't never be guilty of adultery because Atri isn't equiped to "reproduce" with anyone, should he successfullly pulls Atri out of Eden, jealousy can't happen because the three are nice people and loves each other, a married man isn't obliged to not have female (childhood) friends, Atri calls Natsu master so she has all the right to live in his adult household just like Kokoro. So it looks heavy handed and unnatural to kill both Natsu and Atri just so the two can reunite in death free from marriage obligation, in fact, a romantic Romeo and Juliet cliche that would be more believable had they both been human lovers like in many other novels, thus this is a shallow or superficial attempt to produce sentimental content, i think.

I find the ending of Nobita working hard to become a scientist, marrying Shizuka and successfully reviving a broken Doraemon much more believable and happier too.

Anyway, i find their reunion and affection they give each other so cute, so lovely and adorable, but there's no stopping them from doing so in the real world and/or without dying (Natsuki, why you drama queen, dude). If only i could mod the game to purge all the unnecessary death content and suggestion out of their sunshine beach reunion and forget about those forever, i would feel much better now that my pure happiness is unspoiled by scripted cliche disappointment, consider i have already done that in my head first, much easier than actually working out on a mod later.

For this little inconvenience i have to take, i have to subtract the game's rating to 9/10 from would be otherwise 10/10

[Pay Child Suport]

when he mentioned that he'll return to the academy that was completely in the left field (I'm talking about right before the normal ending ends). doesn't he despise the place and the people out there? what's his complaint for living a simple life in the boondocks? oh right, he has to "save the world" despite figuring out decades ago that he can't. I guess you could chalk that to human pride. something to land your feet on otherwise you'll go broke and insane. maybe if he could just give it another try, then maybe a different result will happen. some people just don't learn once and while I hate that kind of people, I can't exactly fault them either.

I just finished the normal end and I can already see he's walking directly into the path of ruin. but I guess he wouldn't sell his working prosthetic leg if he only know better. really, some people just don't learn once. they have to fall down multiple times. a certain radio host had to be divorced 4 times just to learn that the problem wasn't him, but the marriage system itself is the problem.

[applenta]

No no, i mean a better ending, not the depressing one, furthering education is your best chance at helping your loved one, the motivation which he didn't have back then at the academy, which made the difference. I think it is the opposite of what you said, that he DID learned, and gets better too, for himself and his friends (they all ended up being world's leaders like leading scientists, mayor, obviously the more capable people than the average person). I wouldn't expect a highschool level student capable of healing anyone's life, but a world class surgeon should be able to.

Thus it wouldn't make sense that such progress would result in a depressing ending, good causes naturally should end up with good result.

Before the ending, i had thought that Yasuda, who has the most robotic expertise in the setting would have a change of heart and try to fix his dear professor's masterpiece or at least help Natsu learn to do it himself as atonement for his crime, given that he didn't push Atri to death when allowed to do so, this wouldn't be impossible because Atri's lifespan is artificially set to be shorter than it actually is by the manufacturer for planned obsolescence, thus in real life there's the "overclocking" work to counter that, with the help of grandmother's stasis life support, they have all the time in life to do that.

On an unrelated note, the world STOPPED sinking on its own, the majority of land mass and population of the world is still dry even without floating city, as things would really be that way, but the extra technology cherry on top is fine i think.

Seriously, if the maker couldn't cover all of the plot holes, at least make it feel nice.

[Pay Child Suport]

I regret holding to read the true end when it's just 5 minutes. kek. I don't think there's not much else to talk about. it's just a nice closure that's all.

anyway to your complaints:

Ethical - Everyone knows (Natsu's whole town to start with) that Atri is sleeping in Eden, you can't just kill sentient people for economic reason,

you can say the same thing to your very old 486 computer. or your sega 16-bit console. when was the last time you touched that, I say? you can't just come out and say "muh ethics" but at the same time not dusting those old PC and console for decades.

Economy - Not everything is economy driven, imagine the Russian government pulling down Lenin's mausoleum, USA government scuttling the USS Constitution because it costs them money.

same thing. imagine your same 486 or sega got some of its parts broken and needs repair. and it needs a very specific IC or whatever chip that got busted, but the problem is people are no longer developing that chip. it will be WAY TOO EXPENSIVE to make them because of lack of assembly line. if you know anything about manufacturing and mass production you'd know what I'm talking about. I imagine you don't.

Natsu is only dying because he refuses medical treatment to die with Atri because they are trying to kill Atri (again ! give the poor girl some slack, buster), dying at 77 is kinda under average in an advanced futuristic society with developed genetic and cybernetic technology.

give the guy a rest already. 77 years is very long. let him live that last 1 day that can be stretched into 60 years because perception of time is very different in physical and digital world.

or what, are you gonna extend his life so he could work, work, work and more work until not only he breaks apart, but he dusts apart? you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ slave driver. how about look yourself a bit on the mirror?

Atri seemed to be able to surf the internet the whole time, why couldn't they stay in touch with each other via social network like Facebook, Zoom meeting, wouldn't be different than dating couples across our globe. Or at least install hologram for her to appear and talk in person like Star Trek.

Natsu could use his "experimental" mind interface for that 1 day, plus more and more, like years, decades, or even centuries if that station isn't scuttled, one word from powerful people like him and no station can ever get scuttled, let alone a historic landmark like Eden, one that Natsu probably also has inheritance right from his grandmother, no matter how inefficient, hydro electric is still free power, free money, and can't them genius just beach it if its too broken to float and use it as free housing there?

Robotic technology has become much more advanced and "high performance" than Atri's yet no one in the world could ever figure out to repair or overclock her artifitially set lifespan, as her physical body is actually mean to be used for much longer than that (this arbitrary restriction would seem to be a violation of the new anti robot discrimination law mentioned by Kokoro, should it be updated), or transfer Atri's mind into a new healthy body, while it is evidence that Natsu could transfer his "spoiled brat" human mind to a whole island's machine network and basically hacked its central control unit that is Atri, as if the whole world is full of only 17 years old drop out students like he was at the time.

agreed. not much to say other "because time skip". we don't even get to see their married life.

Natsu can't never be guilty of adultery because Atri isn't equiped to "reproduce" with anyone, should he successfullly pulls Atri out of Eden, jealousy can't happen because the three are nice people and loves each other, a married man isn't obliged to not have female (childhood) friends, Atri calls Natsu master so she has all the right to live in his adult household just like Kokoro. So it looks heavy handed and unnatural to kill both Natsu and Atri just so the two can reunite in death free from marriage obligation, in fact, a romantic Romeo and Juliet cliche that would be more believable had they both been human lovers like in many other novels, thus this is a shallow or superficial attempt to produce sentimental content, i think.

dude you're taking atri's comments way too seriously. that's just a joke.

Anyway, i find their reunion and affection they give each other so cute, so lovely and adorable, but there's no stopping them from doing so in the real world and/or without dying (Natsuki, why you drama queen, dude). If only i could mod the game to purge all the unnecessary death content and suggestion out of their sunshine beach reunion and forget about those forever, i would feel much better now that my pure happiness is unspoiled by scripted cliche disappointment, consider i have already done that in my head first, much easier than actually working out on a mod later.

personally I find this a good closure. he never truly loved Minamo and she knows this herself. they were only together because life demanded it, nothing more. in this sense the time skip makes total sense. Natsu couldn't really care less about human development. he will only do what he could, and then "die" together with Atri.

[applenta]

Natsuki is so.o selfish of him to hog Atori all for himself, their friends are gonna disappointed, my jest =))

I look forward to a future where we don't have to work to the death or to get murdered for outliving past our usefulness, that's dystopia.

Anyway, it was good to know this lovely story.

[Pay Child Suport]

Originally posted by applenta:

I look forward to a future where we don't have to work to the death or to get murdered for outliving past our usefulness, that's dystopia.

we already are here. it's called the healthcare welfare system.