Chained Echoes

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Meteorgun Dec 10, 2022 @ 8:14am
OP ghosts?
Ok.. I'm playing at the hardest difficulty which has been Ok for a while with some couple of game overs. Now I'm stuck at the temple of purple fire( or whatever the name was). Because the ghosts are killing me while they use their physical resist. I already tried cleanse, but it just misses, probably because cleanse is also a physical attack. Is there any way to remove it? Or are there any items that deal magical damage? Victor's dmg is not enough.
Originally posted by Boon: Gushy Tooshie:
You have to use Lenn and Victor's magic attacks to hurt them when they have physical resistance.

Also, if you hit the ghosts with magic attacks FIRST before hitting them with physical attacks, the ghosts will then be immune to magic attacks instead - so then you can hit them with everyone's physical moves.

The ghost only apples a resist to the first type of attack you hit them with (physical or magical)
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Boon: Gushy Tooshie Dec 10, 2022 @ 8:36am 
You have to use Lenn and Victor's magic attacks to hurt them when they have physical resistance.

Also, if you hit the ghosts with magic attacks FIRST before hitting them with physical attacks, the ghosts will then be immune to magic attacks instead - so then you can hit them with everyone's physical moves.

The ghost only apples a resist to the first type of attack you hit them with (physical or magical)
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erniem1970 Dec 16, 2022 @ 12:14pm 
I think it is TOTAL BS when game makers make games that are really great, and then a few hours or a day or two into the game, and you are stuck with this crap! It's a nonsense tactic they somehow assume we all think is fun.

Listen up: We do NOT think this is fun to have a new creature, such as these ghosts, and they have a physical resistance, and you are pulling your hair out trying to figure out why we cannot beat them!

Arrgggh, why don't game makers actually understand we play games for relaxation and fun, NOT to be frustrated or to have to try and figure everything out, or do things over and over. This is why many do not buy games, because they may like it at first, and then days or hours later when they cannot get a refund, they run into total crap like this with the ghosts and their stupid "physical resistance."

You know that the majority of our features of attacks are PHYSICAL, not magic, and the magic attacks do not always show up right away for obvious reasons, nor do we always have the best characters, because we do not always have these options, etc., etc.. STOP PISSING PEOPLE OFF game makers!!!! You are not impressing anyone!

This is ridiculous. I have uninstalled games over this nonsense. It makes the game WORSE, not better. Either wake up to the obvious, or give us the option to bypass the creatures if we want. Do not force us to stay in this ridiculous section or place. For crying out loud!

Update: Even with those characters, it is so annoying to try and get them to be back to back. I can never get it to happen. And then the ghosts still keep killing me!!! OMG, THIS IS SO STUPID! The ghosts take like 25 percent of your HP in one hit!!! This is not fun. How is this even fair or realistic?!?!?! Guess I will have to look for some cheats or trainers, yet again.
Last edited by erniem1970; Dec 16, 2022 @ 12:40pm
dustin1280 Dec 16, 2022 @ 12:28pm 
Originally posted by erniem1970:
I think it is TOTAL BS when game makers make games that are really great, and then a few hours or a day or two into the game, (when we can no longer ask for a refund) and you are stuck with this crap! It's a nonsense tactic they somehow assume we all think is fun.

Listen up: We do NOT think this is fun to have a new creature, such as these ghosts, and they have a physical resistance, and you are pulling your hair out trying to figure out why we cannot beat them!

Arrgggh, why don't game makers actually understand we play games for relaxation and fun, NOT to be frustrated or to have to try and figure everything out, or do things over and over. This is why many do not buy games, because they may like it at first, and then days or hours later when they cannot get a refund, they run into total crap like this with the ghosts and their stupid "physical resistance."

You know that the majority of our features of attacks are PHYSICAL, not magic, and the magic attacks do not always show up right away for obvious reasons, nor do we always have the best characters, because we do not always have these options, etc., etc.. STOP PISSING PEOPLE OFF game makers!!!! You are not impressing anyone!

This is ridiculous. I have uninstalled games over this nonsense. It makes the game WORSE, not better. Either wake up to the obvious, or give us the option to bypass the creatures if we want. Do not force us to stay in this ridiculous section or place. For crying out loud!
This is ENTIRELY a you problem...
This game makes it clear they get resistance after they have been hit in battle. If you paid attention to what was happening you would know this.

The game and developer is not to blame for your ineptitude and inability to follow context clues.
Last edited by dustin1280; Dec 16, 2022 @ 12:34pm
Nero Dec 16, 2022 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by erniem1970:
I think it is TOTAL BS when game makers make games that are really great, and then a few hours or a day or two into the game, and you are stuck with this crap! It's a nonsense tactic they somehow assume we all think is fun.

Listen up: We do NOT think this is fun to have a new creature, such as these ghosts, and they have a physical resistance, and you are pulling your hair out trying to figure out why we cannot beat them!

Arrgggh, why don't game makers actually understand we play games for relaxation and fun, NOT to be frustrated or to have to try and figure everything out, or do things over and over. This is why many do not buy games, because they may like it at first, and then days or hours later when they cannot get a refund, they run into total crap like this with the ghosts and their stupid "physical resistance."

You know that the majority of our features of attacks are PHYSICAL, not magic, and the magic attacks do not always show up right away for obvious reasons, nor do we always have the best characters, because we do not always have these options, etc., etc.. STOP PISSING PEOPLE OFF game makers!!!! You are not impressing anyone!

This is ridiculous. I have uninstalled games over this nonsense. It makes the game WORSE, not better. Either wake up to the obvious, or give us the option to bypass the creatures if we want. Do not force us to stay in this ridiculous section or place. For crying out loud!

Update: Even with those characters, it is so annoying to try and get them to be back to back. I can never get it to happen. And then the ghosts still keep killing me!!! OMG, THIS IS SO STUPID! The ghosts take like 25 percent of your HP in one hit!!! This is not fun. How is this even fair or realistic?!?!?! Guess I will have to look for some cheats or trainers, yet again.

Bruh, the game literally tells you why they are immune to X damage.

Keep an eye out for the enemy buffs (which you can see in detail)
Patzerli Dec 16, 2022 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by erniem1970:
I think it is TOTAL BS when game makers make games that are really great, and then a few hours or a day or two into the game, and you are stuck with this crap! It's a nonsense tactic they somehow assume we all think is fun.

Listen up: We do NOT think this is fun to have a new creature, such as these ghosts, and they have a physical resistance, and you are pulling your hair out trying to figure out why we cannot beat them!

Arrgggh, why don't game makers actually understand we play games for relaxation and fun, NOT to be frustrated or to have to try and figure everything out, or do things over and over. This is why many do not buy games, because they may like it at first, and then days or hours later when they cannot get a refund, they run into total crap like this with the ghosts and their stupid "physical resistance."

You know that the majority of our features of attacks are PHYSICAL, not magic, and the magic attacks do not always show up right away for obvious reasons, nor do we always have the best characters, because we do not always have these options, etc., etc.. STOP PISSING PEOPLE OFF game makers!!!! You are not impressing anyone!

This is ridiculous. I have uninstalled games over this nonsense. It makes the game WORSE, not better. Either wake up to the obvious, or give us the option to bypass the creatures if we want. Do not force us to stay in this ridiculous section or place. For crying out loud!

Update: Even with those characters, it is so annoying to try and get them to be back to back. I can never get it to happen. And then the ghosts still keep killing me!!! OMG, THIS IS SO STUPID! The ghosts take like 25 percent of your HP in one hit!!! This is not fun. How is this even fair or realistic?!?!?! Guess I will have to look for some cheats or trainers, yet again.

Why do you speak for all of us. You say WE. Thats bullsh**. You speak for yourself!

I play on normal and most fights play the same. Break defense, attack, heal all and use the enemies weakness, stop attacking if they buff counter x. Just read and think a little bit while playing. Play COD if you don't want to use your brain.

I am at the end of Act 2 and the only enemies i cannot beat are the strange sand enemies in the desert which can one hit kill you regardless of your health. So i play just on and try them again later,
Literally use magic first instead of physical attacks to they'll be immune to magic... i figured this out in 5 minutes.
Blitz Dec 16, 2022 @ 5:37pm 
Originally posted by Patzerli:
I am at the end of Act 2 and the only enemies i cannot beat are the strange sand enemies in the desert which can one hit kill you regardless of your health. So i play just on and try them again later,
Some enemies are meant to be fought in Sky Armor and those enemies have this mechanic: they only do the instakill attack at low hp
Last edited by Blitz; Dec 16, 2022 @ 5:38pm
erniem1970 Dec 17, 2022 @ 12:15am 
Originally posted by Patzerli:
Originally posted by erniem1970:
I think it is TOTAL BS when game makers make games that are really great, and then a few hours or a day or two into the game, and you are stuck with this crap! It's a nonsense tactic they somehow assume we all think is fun.

Listen up: We do NOT think this is fun to have a new creature, such as these ghosts, and they have a physical resistance, and you are pulling your hair out trying to figure out why we cannot beat them!

Arrgggh, why don't game makers actually understand we play games for relaxation and fun, NOT to be frustrated or to have to try and figure everything out, or do things over and over. This is why many do not buy games, because they may like it at first, and then days or hours later when they cannot get a refund, they run into total crap like this with the ghosts and their stupid "physical resistance."

You know that the majority of our features of attacks are PHYSICAL, not magic, and the magic attacks do not always show up right away for obvious reasons, nor do we always have the best characters, because we do not always have these options, etc., etc.. STOP PISSING PEOPLE OFF game makers!!!! You are not impressing anyone!

This is ridiculous. I have uninstalled games over this nonsense. It makes the game WORSE, not better. Either wake up to the obvious, or give us the option to bypass the creatures if we want. Do not force us to stay in this ridiculous section or place. For crying out loud!

Update: Even with those characters, it is so annoying to try and get them to be back to back. I can never get it to happen. And then the ghosts still keep killing me!!! OMG, THIS IS SO STUPID! The ghosts take like 25 percent of your HP in one hit!!! This is not fun. How is this even fair or realistic?!?!?! Guess I will have to look for some cheats or trainers, yet again.

Why do you speak for all of us. You say WE. Thats bullsh**. You speak for yourself!

I play on normal and most fights play the same. Break defense, attack, heal all and use the enemies weakness, stop attacking if they buff counter x. Just read and think a little bit while playing. Play COD if you don't want to use your brain.

I am at the end of Act 2 and the only enemies i cannot beat are the strange sand enemies in the desert which can one hit kill you regardless of your health. So i play just on and try them again later,
No, I speak for a majority. I was very clear and very detailed. I have done thousands of surveys and a majority of gamers play to RELAX and HAVE fun, NOT try to always have to figure everything out and be frustrated. PERIOD. END OF STORY. If game makers want to sell a game, design it so it can be done in such a way that does not do what I am describing. It does not matter what is said above. That is all irrelevant to me, and a majority. If you lkike those kinds of things to be frustrated, annoyed, time wasted and have to do things over and over, well good for you. The majority does not. I will leave it at that.
erniem1970 Dec 17, 2022 @ 12:17am 
Originally posted by Patzerli:
Originally posted by erniem1970:
I think it is TOTAL BS when game makers make games that are really great, and then a few hours or a day or two into the game, and you are stuck with this crap! It's a nonsense tactic they somehow assume we all think is fun.

Listen up: We do NOT think this is fun to have a new creature, such as these ghosts, and they have a physical resistance, and you are pulling your hair out trying to figure out why we cannot beat them!

Arrgggh, why don't game makers actually understand we play games for relaxation and fun, NOT to be frustrated or to have to try and figure everything out, or do things over and over. This is why many do not buy games, because they may like it at first, and then days or hours later when they cannot get a refund, they run into total crap like this with the ghosts and their stupid "physical resistance."

You know that the majority of our features of attacks are PHYSICAL, not magic, and the magic attacks do not always show up right away for obvious reasons, nor do we always have the best characters, because we do not always have these options, etc., etc.. STOP PISSING PEOPLE OFF game makers!!!! You are not impressing anyone!

This is ridiculous. I have uninstalled games over this nonsense. It makes the game WORSE, not better. Either wake up to the obvious, or give us the option to bypass the creatures if we want. Do not force us to stay in this ridiculous section or place. For crying out loud!

Update: Even with those characters, it is so annoying to try and get them to be back to back. I can never get it to happen. And then the ghosts still keep killing me!!! OMG, THIS IS SO STUPID! The ghosts take like 25 percent of your HP in one hit!!! This is not fun. How is this even fair or realistic?!?!?! Guess I will have to look for some cheats or trainers, yet again.

Why do you speak for all of us. You say WE. Thats bullsh**. You speak for yourself!

I play on normal and most fights play the same. Break defense, attack, heal all and use the enemies weakness, stop attacking if they buff counter x. Just read and think a little bit while playing. Play COD if you don't want to use your brain.

I am at the end of Act 2 and the only enemies i cannot beat are the strange sand enemies in the desert which can one hit kill you regardless of your health. So i play just on and try them again later,
"I play on normal and most fights play the same. Break defense, attack, heal all and use the enemies weakness, stop attacking if they buff counter x. Just read and think a little bit while playing. Play COD if you don't want to use your brain." BLAH BLAH BLAH..NO THANK YOU. Not fun, and total stupidity!
erniem1970 Dec 17, 2022 @ 12:26am 
This is not working. NO matter what I do, see, read, study, or try, I keep dying with the stupid ghosts!! This is why people often pirate games. Gee, and you wonder why???! I am going to get a trainer or some cheats. I already found a couple through some services I already subscribe to, such as WeMod. I HATE THAT GAME MAKERS PULL THIS CRAP right after you get past the refund period!!!! I am done with this crap. This is why I often uninstall and am so picky about games. They should make them as good as Square Enix, and not pull this nice stuff part way through and then throw the BS enemies on you that requires too much time, thinking and figuring out. I do not play games for that, and neither do the majority. That is another reason why I never liked consoles growing up. They were BS to, most of them. I am done here.
Last edited by erniem1970; Dec 17, 2022 @ 12:26am
ohgodwhat Dec 17, 2022 @ 1:18am 
Magical attacks show up hours before you reach this point, two of your characters are magical attackers and join the party with their magical attack skills already learned.
You don't speak for any majority, lower the difficulty if you don't want a challenge.
Meteorgun Dec 17, 2022 @ 3:11am 
Uh wow this exploded. Anyways the immunity for a certain attack for the whole battle is quite unusual, because normally it's for a certain amount of turns. I do have to say this game needs a better explanation. I didn't even knew that leanne's thrust were magic type and allow us to revisit the explanation.
Rampage Dec 17, 2022 @ 5:32am 
wow enemies like this have been in rpgs forever, are you new to the genre?
Gozkiel Dec 18, 2022 @ 4:32am 
Originally posted by erniem1970:
This is not working. NO matter what I do, see, read, study, or try, I keep dying with the stupid ghosts!! This is why people often pirate games. Gee, and you wonder why???! I am going to get a trainer or some cheats. I already found a couple through some services I already subscribe to, such as WeMod. I HATE THAT GAME MAKERS PULL THIS CRAP right after you get past the refund period!!!! I am done with this crap. This is why I often uninstall and am so picky about games. They should make them as good as Square Enix, and not pull this nice stuff part way through and then throw the BS enemies on you that requires too much time, thinking and figuring out. I do not play games for that, and neither do the majority. That is another reason why I never liked consoles growing up. They were BS to, most of them. I am done here.

Bruh, lower your difficulty if you find it too challenging.
I'm not a huge JRPG fan myself but those ghosts were beatable on standard difficulty (although I gotta admit it was quite annoying). Equipments and stat boosts don't make much of a difference at that point of the game so I don't think you should be struggling as much.



Originally posted by Meteorgun:
Uh wow this exploded. Anyways the immunity for a certain attack for the whole battle is quite unusual, because normally it's for a certain amount of turns. I do have to say this game needs a better explanation. I didn't even knew that leanne's thrust were magic type and allow us to revisit the explanation.

I agree. The Boxfly's evade skill was easy to miss too early on in the game and even after 50+ hours into the game I still don't fully understand some buffs and debuffs.
erniem1970 Dec 18, 2022 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Meteorgun:
Uh wow this exploded. Anyways the immunity for a certain attack for the whole battle is quite unusual, because normally it's for a certain amount of turns. I do have to say this game needs a better explanation. I didn't even knew that leanne's thrust were magic type and allow us to revisit the explanation.
THANK YOU FOR GETTING WHAT I WAS SAYING ALL ALONG. Someone with brains.
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