Chrono Trigger meets Xenogears?

[Thrillhouse]

Pretty torn on this one. it's certainly high quality for RPG maker but I noticed a lot of animations are kinda wonky. Is the battle system any different from the stock Chrono Trigger RPG maker script?

[D13_Michael]

Uhm, the game is made in Unity and the battle system is pretty different.

[Thrillhouse]

Originally posted by D13_Michael:

Uhm, the game is made in Unity and the battle system is pretty different.

good to know!

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It also isn't RPG Maker either.

[Kaitri]

xenogears, i saw that mentioned like 4 times now and im not sure what game it is tbh

[Sishiya]

Originally posted by Kaitri:

xenogears, i saw that mentioned like 4 times now and im not sure what game it is tbh

I don't know...god forbid a sprite/pixel RPG have player-controlled mechs in it without drawing comparisons to Xenogears.

In case you were seriously asking, Xenogears is a JRPG from the era of SquareSoft (before merging with Enix to become the current Square Enix) where they just could not seem to put out a bad game; even their "clunkers" had charm and were worth playing.

Xenogears became something of a fan-favorite for its weaving together introductory-level philosophic and religious elements, technology (including, notably, mechs), and an engaging story spanning thousands of years (but without the time-travel gameplay of Chrono Trigger).

[Mr. Welldone]

Originally posted by Sishiya:

Originally posted by Kaitri:

xenogears, i saw that mentioned like 4 times now and im not sure what game it is tbh

I don't know...god forbid a sprite/pixel RPG have player-controlled mechs in it without drawing comparisons to Xenogears.

Dev literally states he draws influence directly from this game and was trying to take the coolest parts he remembers and make them *better*.

"Yes. As I said, I grew up in the golden era. I fell in love with games such as Xenogears, Suikoden 2, Breath of Fire, Terranigma, [and] the Chrono series. And many more. And they all influenced Chained Echoes. Not to forget Final Fantasy VI. But I guess especially Xenogears had a huge impact on the game. It doesn’t stop there, and I still play games these days, so there are obviously things inspired by more modern games, from Xenoblade Chronicles to Elden Ring. That may sound weird but on the other side, everything influences us and I can’t really say if there was any game which didn’t influence me."

https://monstervine.com/2022/11/matthias-linda-interview-how-chained-echoes-channels-snes-playstation-rpgs/

[Sishiya]

Originally posted by Mr. Welldone:

Originally posted by Sishiya:

I don't know...god forbid a sprite/pixel RPG have player-controlled mechs in it without drawing comparisons to Xenogears.

Dev literally states he draws influence directly from this game and was trying to take the coolest parts he remembers and make them *better*.

"Yes. As I said, I grew up in the golden era. I fell in love with games such as Xenogears, Suikoden 2, Breath of Fire, Terranigma, [and] the Chrono series. And many more. And they all influenced Chained Echoes. Not to forget Final Fantasy VI. But I guess especially Xenogears had a huge impact on the game. It doesn’t stop there, and I still play games these days, so there are obviously things inspired by more modern games, from Xenoblade Chronicles to Elden Ring. That may sound weird but on the other side, everything influences us and I can’t really say if there was any game which didn’t influence me."

https://monstervine.com/2022/11/matthias-linda-interview-how-chained-echoes-channels-snes-playstation-rpgs/

Being "influenced by" doesn't equate to "comparable to", at least it shouldn't, no matter how often people try. Such attempts at comparison almost never judge the new work on its own merits, but by those of the original.

[Mr. Welldone]

Originally posted by Sishiya:

Originally posted by Mr. Welldone:

Dev literally states he draws influence directly from this game and was trying to take the coolest parts he remembers and make them *better*.

"Yes. As I said, I grew up in the golden era. I fell in love with games such as Xenogears, Suikoden 2, Breath of Fire, Terranigma, [and] the Chrono series. And many more. And they all influenced Chained Echoes. Not to forget Final Fantasy VI. But I guess especially Xenogears had a huge impact on the game. It doesn’t stop there, and I still play games these days, so there are obviously things inspired by more modern games, from Xenoblade Chronicles to Elden Ring. That may sound weird but on the other side, everything influences us and I can’t really say if there was any game which didn’t influence me."

https://monstervine.com/2022/11/matthias-linda-interview-how-chained-echoes-channels-snes-playstation-rpgs/

Being "influenced by" doesn't equate to "comparable to", at least it shouldn't, no matter how often people try. Such attempts at comparison almost never judge the new work on its own merits, but by those of the original.

You get an F in semantics.

[Sishiya]

Originally posted by Mr. Welldone:

You get an F in semantics.

Mm, considering you don't understand what "literally" means, I'm not going to trust your expertise with another long word such as "semantics".

But if this is the direction you really want this conversation to go, I'm not going to oblige you further. I wasn't attempting to argue semantics, only that too often people take "influenced by" as an invitation to make direct comparisons, which I don't feel is really fair to the new work.

[Joerpg84]

Originally posted by Grilled Charlie:

Pretty torn on this one. it's certainly high quality for RPG maker but I noticed a lot of animations are kinda wonky. Is the battle system any different from the stock Chrono Trigger RPG maker script?

The intro was like Chrono Trigger, then the quest name was heavily nostalgic for Xenogears.

This game is far from an RPG Maker game. I mean there are some decent ones though I enjoyed, but this game has one of the most addictive battle systems.

[Clead HeavenHell]

It reminds me a lot of Ara Fell, Battle Chasers (Combat menu) and Rise of the Third Power... really enjoying the new wave of JRPGs coming lately. You have to always welcome a well-polished game.