Game length

[Blade]

I was reading that this game is supposed to be HUGE and very long. I've been playing for a couple days as a mage and I was just starting to get into the game and really enjoy it when I realized I was already on the final mission. Everything else is just fetch quests. I'm probably looking at around 15 hours of actual gameplay, I mean I'm only level 17. I'm really disappointed and unfulfilled. The game seems painfully short, I feel like just yesterday I met the cast and I really haven't gotten to know them or learn anything about them. It's just over already. What gives? Bioware games are usually much longer than this.

[every1hasnames]

heres the thing. rps have gotten longer and longer but. that is counting doing everything.

just doing main story.you can complete most rpgs in 10 hours.


speed runners have done it in less then an hour. hell looking on youtube. dragon age inquisition speedrun any percentage 26 minutes and some change.


and theres alot of fetch quest in this game. so that can be alot of quest you infer you havent done. which means alot of time you didnt spend. (depending on how many of them you havent done ofcourse. dont know the amount of fetch quest you have done or if you plain skipped them and didnt do any of them because they were fetch quest)

[Metallicus]

My last Inquisition run I did every quest and unlocked every POI in the game. It was very satisfying to do a completionist run, but did take a fair amount of time.

[barzai]

I've been playing DAI since it came out. I've played through the game many times with total times ranging from over 100 hours on end-to-end (i.e. including all DLC) completionist runs, to around 30 hours for my own version of a speedrun, where I just do as little as necessary to bull through the main quests and the final battle.

I've no idea how you'd speedrun this game in less than an hour. Even with all my experience, I can't even make it through the prologue in much less than an hour. I suppose it's possible that there's exploits I'm unaware of--that's how most speedruns I've seen on YouTube for other games seem to work--but I'd bet my house you can't "speedrun" DAI in less than 20-25 hours otherwise.

[every1hasnames]

Originally posted by barzai:

I've been playing DAI since it came out. I've played through the game many times with total times ranging from over 100 hours on end-to-end (i.e. including all DLC) completionist runs, to around 30 hours for my own version of a speedrun, where I just do as little as necessary to bull through the main quests and the final battle.

I've no idea how you'd speedrun this game in less than an hour. Even with all my experience, I can't even make it through the prologue in much less than an hour. I suppose it's possible that there's exploits I'm unaware of--that's how most speedruns I've seen on YouTube for other games seem to work--but I'd bet my house you can't "speedrun" DAI in less than 20-25 hours otherwise.

for any percentage speed run. meaning the fastest the game can be completed while doing just what has to be done to getto the closing credits basically. meaning if its not an absolute requirement its skipped. not done. only the absolute required things are completed in any percentage speed runs.


the vast majority of events arent actually required to initiate being able to fight the final boss and beat the game. theres only a couple of events that absolutely have to be done. absolutely mandatory. for the missions to unlock to fight the final boss.



exploits are infact required. so you are correct exploiting is infact part of speedrunning in this game.



now theres a couple of exploits that are required. 1. dealing with world map and 2 unlocking certain areas.



1.world map glitch.


world map glitch involves getting into combat. going next to a world map transition. you know a point in the world where it shows a path that leads outside of your current map and if you enter it it takes you to the map where you can pick a new area to travel to.


when next to a world map transition in combat. save the game. reload the save and all of the areas will be unlocked.




then go to crestwood. going to crestwood unlocks the world state like you have completed in your heart shall burn.meaning the world state is post in your heart shall burn.


this unlocks skyhold and a bunch of war table missions.




after that. its just completing a couple required story missions. and acquiring the necessary power which you do mainly from the couple of story missions that absolutely have to be done and doing war table missions.



then final battle and boom end of game.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-1y77wWgxU


so yes you are correct exploits were infact needed.

[barzai]

Originally posted by every1hasnames:

speed runners have done it in less then an hour. hell looking on youtube. dragon age inquisition speedrun any percentage 26 minutes and some change.

Out of curiosity, I looked up the 26-minute speedrun. I was sorta OK with the first part--I knew you could skip some fights during the prologue--but after Haven, the speedrunner literally leaves the gravitational pull of the Earth.

Suddenly you're just waltzing past main quests, every region is open to you, and you're inflicting stupidly large amounts of damage without any indication of how you got that good?

Ridiculous. And more to the point, an impossibility for anyone who hasn't thoroughly played the game and knows exactly how to perform those maneuvers.

I notice the speedrunner doesn't "show their work." I'm guessing--in addition to the objections already noted--that they're playing on the lowest and most forgiving settings, thus allowing them to basically wreak havoc on enemies with impunity.

Last and final comment: despite all the things the speedrunner has done to shortcut their playthrough, they somehow failed to realize that most of the "unskippable" cutscenes--e.g. the Hinterlands intro scene--are in fact skippable using mods. Amusing.

EDIT: Hadn't seen your response while I was writing this. Thanks for unpacking that for me...but it's still ridiculous--to say nothing of completely eviscerating the game as drawn up by the devs. And I'll say it again--no one playing for the first time will figure this out. I've clocked over 3,000 hours in the game--40+ complete playthoughs--and I wouldn't have known any of those exploits.

[n#n#m#]

Originally posted by barzai:

Last and final comment: despite all the things the speedrunner has done to shortcut their playthrough, they somehow failed to realize that most of the "unskippable" cutscenes--e.g. the Hinterlands intro scene--are in fact skippable using mods. Amusing.

They probably can't use mods If they want their run to count.

[barzai]

Originally posted by ideyaf1x:

Originally posted by barzai:

Last and final comment: despite all the things the speedrunner has done to shortcut their playthrough, they somehow failed to realize that most of the "unskippable" cutscenes--e.g. the Hinterlands intro scene--are in fact skippable using mods. Amusing.

They probably can't use mods If they want their run to count.

I appreciate that. I just find the juxtaposition amusing. "Exploits that allow you to skip most of the game's content--OK. Eliminating gratuitous cutscenes--not OK."

It's just a reminder of how sterile and stylized speedrunning is.