What determines weather or not Morrigan's child is an Old God or a normal boy?

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So just fyi I own all these games on origin. I got a hankering to play the games again, just for funsies. I got to thinking about weather or not I would shag Morrigan again, but I'm not romancing her this time, but I also have never done a playthrough where I've had my warden die. But I had a thought, I remembered how in Inquisition, the child she has can either posses the soul of the slain Archdemon, or, can be a normal child. I tried looking this up but I can't find what actually determines this. I thought; is it weather or not you've romanced her? Honestly I just want to know but I can't find anything through googling.

[FEZ. TF7]

Have either Loghain or Alistair perform the ritual with Morrigan so the Warden survives, or even if you aren't romancing her you can still do the ritual

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Originally posted by FEZ. TF7:

Have either Loghain or Alistair perform the ritual with Morrigan so the Warden survives, or even if you aren't romancing her you can still do the ritual

That's... that's not even slightly what I asked. I know that, dude read what I asked. I want to know what exact determines weather or not Kieran will be an Old God or a normal boy in Inquisition. Does it have something to do with weather or not Alistair and/or Loghain shag her?

[Levianne]

Originally posted by Silenthero:

weather or not you've romanced her?

That's exactly, what determines it. If you romance her and decide against the dark ritual (I think with a child already being conceived from your romance, she can't perform the ritual, but I might be wrong), then the child will be a normal human child. If you don't romance her and do the ritual (Loghain, Alistair, male MC, doesn't matter who), then the child will posses the slain Archdemon's soul.
There's also a third option of course. Not romancing her and still refusing the ritual, then Morrigan will have no child at all.

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Originally posted by Levianne:

Originally posted by Silenthero:

weather or not you've romanced her?

That's exactly, what determines it. If you romance her and decide against the dark ritual (I think with a child already being conceived from your romance, she can't perform the ritual, but I might be wrong), then the child will be a normal human child. If you don't romance her and do the ritual (Loghain, Alistair, male MC, doesn't matter who), then the child will posses the slain Archdemon's soul.

Ohhhhh so she can get pregnant just from doing the romance in general? Ahhhh okay then that's interesting. I thought it was possible to do the ritual but for the child to not end up being an Old God. Thanks. Honestly I was just curious, cuz this playthrough I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna sacrifice my warden for the first time. I'm curious to see what awakening is like with the Orlesian warden. Thanks anyway.

[Levianne]

Originally posted by Silenthero:

Ohhhhh so she can get pregnant just from doing the romance in general? Ahhhh okay then that's interesting. I thought it was possible to do the ritual but for the child to not end up being an Old God. Thanks. Honestly I was just curious, cuz this playthrough I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna sacrifice my warden for the first time. I'm curious to see what awakening is like with the Orlesian warden. Thanks anyway.

Even if you romance her and refuse the ritual, there's still an option to not have her pregnant (not sleeping with her) and in DA:I, she won't have a child with her (poor Kieran won't exist).

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Kept it as simple as possible for you as possible...

Do the sex part of the ritual but not the have her with you to do the 2nd part of ritual..

[Fried Noodles]

Originally posted by Silenthero:

Ohhhhh so she can get pregnant just from doing the romance in general? Ahhhh okay then that's interesting. I thought it was possible to do the ritual but for the child to not end up being an Old God. Thanks. Honestly I was just curious, cuz this playthrough I'm pretty sure I'm just gonna sacrifice my warden for the first time. I'm curious to see what awakening is like with the Orlesian warden. Thanks anyway.

Don't do it. The Warden's extra-thick Orlesian accent will grate on your soul.
Such a chatterbox, the Warden Commander.

[FEZ. TF7]

Originally posted by Silenthero:

Originally posted by FEZ. TF7:

I was replying to the part where you said 'you're not romancing her this time', but what determines her to have a normal child is through a romance with the warden and refusing the ritual, the only time Loghain or Alistair can have sex with her is through doing the ritual from which the child will have the soul of the old god.

Imo the best outcome if you don't want to romance her, perform the ritual or are playing a female warden is to have Loaghain to perform the ritual.

[Levianne]

Originally posted by FEZ. TF7:

but what determines her to have a normal child is through a romance with the warden and refusing the ritual, the only time Loghain or Alistair can have sex with her is through doing the ritual from which the child will have the soul of the old god.

Imo the best outcome if you don't want to romance her, perform the ritual or are playing a female warden is to have Loaghain to perform the ritual.

To make things easier to grasp, there's exactly 3 options:
- Romancing Morrigan (and going all the way through with it) - not sure about the ritual, is it possible, if the male Warden already slept with Morrigan? - so Warden sleeps with her, ritual doesn't happen, the child will be a normal human child.
- Not romancing her and doing ritual - the child will have a soul of an old god (the slain Archdemon).
- Not romancing her and still refusing the ritual is also an option - no child born, Kieran will be absent from DA:I. The fate of the Warden depends on who will deliver the final blow to Archdemon, there's 2 options: the Hero does and will die, or the other Warden (Alistair or Loghain in his place) will slay the Archdemon and die in the process saving the Hero.

[FEZ. TF7]

Originally posted by Levianne:

Originally posted by FEZ. TF7:

To make things easier to grasp, there's exactly 3 options:
- Romancing Morrigan (and going all the way through with it) - not sure about the ritual, is it possible, if the male Warden already slept with Morrigan? - so Warden sleeps with her, ritual doesn't happen, the child will be a normal human child.
- Not romancing her and doing ritual - the child will have a soul of an old god (the slain Archdemon).
- Not romancing her and still refusing the ritual is also an option - no child born, Kieran will be absent from DA:I. The fate of the Warden depends on who will deliver the final blow to Archdemon, there's 2 options: the Hero does and will die, or the other Warden (Alistair or Loghain in his place) will slay the Archdemon and die in the process saving the Hero.

There's actually a forth option you haven't mentioned where you have Loghain or Alistair perform the ritual so the child will have the soul of the old god.

Not sure if she has a child though if you just sleep with her but end up romancing someone else like Leliana or Zevran and refusing the ritual, been that long since I've bothered to do multiple romances during a single playthrough.

For your first point though, If you have already slept with Morrigan and she was your love interest but refuse the ritual after the landsmeet- the child will be normal, in order for the child to have the soul the ritual must be performed, by either the male Warden or ~Alistair/Loghain.

[Levianne]

Originally posted by FEZ. TF7:

There's actually a forth option you haven't mentioned where you have Loghain or Alistair perform the ritual so the child will have the soul of the old god.

That's not fourth option, that's still option number 2, because not romancing her and doing the ritual, it doesn't matter, who does it, the male Warden, Alistair, or Loghain, the result is the same, child with the soul of an Old God.

[FEZ. TF7]

Originally posted by Levianne:

Originally posted by FEZ. TF7:

There's actually a forth option you haven't mentioned where you have Loghain or Alistair perform the ritual so the child will have the soul of the old god.

That's not fourth option, that's still option number 2, because not romancing her and doing the ritual, it doesn't matter, who does it, the male Warden, Alistair, or Loghain, the result is the same, child with the soul of an Old God.

It's still a fourth option as they are two very different choices even though they both have similar outcomes, one would be that you as the warden perform the ritual, the other would be that you persuade either of your warden companions to perform the ritual. Even though the ritual is still performed and the child's fate is the same there's a difference between you doing it and getting someone else to do it.