Why No Built-In Option For Black Hair?

[ThePhoenixCat]

Obviously, the game supports black hair in the code. Cassandra has black hair. There are save editors out the wazoo that allow you to change your hair colour to black, meaning HAVING black hair is supported by the game's code. So, why is it not in the character creation module? This game literally allows you to micromanage every tiny aspect of your character's face, and offers countless colours for eyes and hair, including some nobody would actually have, but no option for black hair. Literally, the only way to get black hair in this game is to download one of the dozens of save editors specialising in exactly that, and changing your hair to black by editing the save file.

And knowing that all of these save editor creators were doing their job better than them, EA Bioware still sat on its hands and refused to fix this bug in the character creation module, just allowing themselves to be embarrassed by the little guy. Why? What was the point of all this? What did EA Bioware stand to gain from leaving out black hair out of the character creation module and letting save editor developers fill the demand that decision left?

[ThePhoenixCat]

Furthermore, if you edit your save to get black hair, and then go to the mirror of transformation to edit your appearance, even if you don't touch your hair, it restores your hair to dark brown, and you have to edit your save all over again to get black hair.

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS, EA BIOWARE!? WHY DO YOU SLAP US PLAYERS WITH BLACK HAIR IN THE FACE!?

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There's an option for black hair in the character creator. But it's glossy-black hair with highlights.

[ThePhoenixCat]

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There's an option for black hair in the character creator. But it's glossy-black hair with highlights.

That's what I thought when creating my character in the dimly lit creation module, but in the bright daylight of Haven and the Hinterlands, it became painfully obvious it was actually dark brown. And the save editor confirmed this by showing the numerical values of brown.

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There's an option for black hair in the character creator. But it's glossy-black hair with highlights.

That's what I thought when creating my character in the dimly lit creation module, but in the bright daylight of Haven and the Hinterlands, it became painfully obvious it was actually dark brown. And the save editor confirmed this by showing the numerical values of brown.

Fair enough. But for all the people I've met with--I realize this isn't a logical way to describe it--"dark black" hair, their hair is actually a very dark brown or red-brown.

I might never have noticed but I went to school with a Thai fella and he pointed it out to me: if you looked through his hair while it was backlit by a bright light it definitely showed in as dark red-brown.

I also knew a fella who married a Thai woman and it was the same with her.

So I respect your desire for an alternative but I don't honestly think what you want is actually a "natural" color!

[ThePhoenixCat]

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I don't honestly think what you want is actually a "natural" color!

I assure you that it is, and even if you disagree, I'm sure you'll have to agree it's way more natural than the blues and purples that you're allowed to create in the character creation module. And, need I remind you, Cassandra has it.

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Origineel geplaatst door ThePhoenixCat:

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I don't honestly think what you want is actually a "natural" color!

I assure you that it is, and even if you disagree, I'm sure you'll have to agree it's way more natural than the blues and purples that you're allowed to create in the character creation module. And, need I remind you, Cassandra has it.

No argument about blues, purples or Cass. Also, please note that my statement was not intended categorically, but merely as a reflection of my own observations over a 65-year lifetime.

I've never seen anything but more or less "normal" hair colors though, how do you get blues or purples? Are you using a mod for that?

[ThePhoenixCat]

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I assure you that it is, and even if you disagree, I'm sure you'll have to agree it's way more natural than the blues and purples that you're allowed to create in the character creation module. And, need I remind you, Cassandra has it.

No argument about blues, purples or Cass. Also, please note that my statement was not intended categorically, but merely as a reflection of my own observations over a 65-year lifetime.

I've never seen anything but more or less "normal" hair colors though, how do you get blues or purples? Are you using a mod for that?

IIRC. they're available in the character creation module, but my memory sucks, so you might want to check that for yourself. I know eye colours come in many unnatural colours.

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No argument about blues, purples or Cass. Also, please note that my statement was not intended categorically, but merely as a reflection of my own observations over a 65-year lifetime.

I've never seen anything but more or less "normal" hair colors though, how do you get blues or purples? Are you using a mod for that?

IIRC. they're available in the character creation module, but my memory sucks, so you might want to check that for yourself. I know eye colours come in many unnatural colours.

Eye colors, agreed. I often pick the "golden-eyed" look myself, especially if I'm playing an elven rogue, to honor Jack Vance's character "Liane the Wayfarer"

But in my experience--and I just started a new playthrough in the last couple days--all the colors in the hair part are kinda normal-looking (a few are a bit too bright, but hey). Is it possible you're conflating the CC from DAI with the CC from DAV?

[ThePhoenixCat]

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Origineel geplaatst door ThePhoenixCat:

IIRC. they're available in the character creation module, but my memory sucks, so you might want to check that for yourself. I know eye colours come in many unnatural colours.

Eye colors, agreed. I often pick the "golden-eyed" look myself, especially if I'm playing an elven rogue, to honor Jack Vance's character "Liane the Wayfarer"

But in my experience--and I just started a new playthrough in the last couple days--all the colors in the hair part are kinda normal-looking (a few are a bit too bright, but hey). Is it possible you're conflating the CC from DAI with the CC from DAV?

This is the only Dragon Age game I've played, so that's not possible. It is, however, possible that I'm remembering wrong.

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Eye colors, agreed. I often pick the "golden-eyed" look myself, especially if I'm playing an elven rogue, to honor Jack Vance's character "Liane the Wayfarer"

But in my experience--and I just started a new playthrough in the last couple days--all the colors in the hair part are kinda normal-looking (a few are a bit too bright, but hey). Is it possible you're conflating the CC from DAI with the CC from DAV?

This is the only Dragon Age game I've played, so that's not possible. It is, however, possible that I'm remembering wrong.

Fair enough. Just a shot in the dark. And truthfully if you'd watched as many of the YouTube videos on DAV as I have--did you know it has an amazing CC ?!? With great hair !!! --it wouldn't be that hard to conflate the two!

[ThePhoenixCat]

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This is the only Dragon Age game I've played, so that's not possible. It is, however, possible that I'm remembering wrong.

Fair enough. Just a shot in the dark. And truthfully if you'd watched as many of the YouTube videos on DAV as I have--did you know it has an amazing CC ?!? With great hair !!! --it wouldn't be that hard to conflate the two!

But does it support black hair?

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Fair enough. Just a shot in the dark. And truthfully if you'd watched as many of the YouTube videos on DAV as I have--did you know it has an amazing CC ?!? With great hair !!! --it wouldn't be that hard to conflate the two!

But does it support black hair?

Not a clue, haven't bought it, and I wasn't looking for that in the pre-release vids that were all about the HAIR !!!

[ThePhoenixCat]

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But does it support black hair?

Not a clue, haven't bought it, and I wasn't looking for that in the pre-release vids that were all about the HAIR !!!

Me neither