Female characters look like male characters

[LogicalPoint]

I swear thought half of them were dudes in some weird robe/dress. Did Bioware fire all their character designs and just slap bad dresses on the male bodies.

[HologramSam]

I worry about what you expect women to look like in games

[Yoinkyz]

its not even that bad. you prob just made a trash char no doudt

[Ceroki]

Originally posted by HologramSam:

I worry about what you expect women to look like in games

Probably not purposely ugly?

[Ceroki]

Originally posted by Yikes:

its not even that bad. you prob just made a trash char no doudt

Pretty sure dude is talking about the characters you cannot customize. Which he is correct, this was on purpose, they made the woman ugly to advert the "male gaze." Kept the men attractive and added a LGBTQ+ character. It is the reason the game failed to make sales and the reason there has yet to be another DA game.

[Yoinkyz]

Originally posted by EyeofValor:

Originally posted by Yikes:

its not even that bad. you prob just made a trash char no doudt

Pretty sure dude is talking about the characters you cannot customize. Which he is correct, this was on purpose, they made the woman ugly to advert the "male gaze." Kept the men attractive and added a LGBTQ+ character. It is the reason the game failed to make sales and the reason there has yet to be another DA game.

DA 4 is in development ye goon

[Warlock]

I wouldn't say every women in game is ugly, but Ferelden did have some weird population change. Also, the writing for some female characters is pretty bad. It's like 180% from character to character where Cassandra is hot-headed and must overcome this as well as other problems to Sera who started off as a Red Jenny with personality of a spoiled child and by the end of the game has never learnt a lesson or underwent character change.

Also the haircuts are the same for every gender, like at least let us choose some hairstyles from former games, why limit the hair choices?

[blueglue]

Morrigan disapproves -50

[barzai]

Originally posted by Metallicus:

Originally posted by barzai:

Morrigan still looks fine.
Leliana still looks fine.
I certainly have no objections to Cassandra's looks, she's actually kinda my type :-)
Josephine doesn't float my boat but that's just a matter of personal preference, she's certainly neither ugly nor mannish.
Sera looks fine enough, if only I could get past her fingernails-on-a-blackboard attitude...
Ditto Vivienne.

...Who, exactly, are you calling unappealing, and why?

Morrigan is not romanceable and doesn't look as good as Origins. Lillianna is not romanceable and also doesn't look as good as Origins + she has a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ attitude. in DAI. Sera is kind of cute, but of course is a lesbian so not romanceable + an abrasive personality (as you mentioned). Vivian is a ♥♥♥♥♥ and not romanceable. Josephine is not appealing to me at all (or you apparently) so yuck and I do agree Cassandra is appealing because of her personality, but physically she looks like she has been run through a blender.

Basically no good romance options except for Cassandra and that is for personality and not looks so my point is still valid that they did not create physically appealing characters for heterosexual males.

Fair enough, but you left out that important context of "romanceable by the (male) PC."

Also, I have to disagree with you on Cass's looks. She has a face with personality, which is more than many women have. And even if you can't get past that, she's got a rockin' bod! :-)

So I think some of this is a matter of personal taste and preference. Which really is my only point here! :-)

[Metallicus]

Originally posted by barzai:

Originally posted by Metallicus:

Morrigan is not romanceable and doesn't look as good as Origins. Lillianna is not romanceable and also doesn't look as good as Origins + she has a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ attitude. in DAI. Sera is kind of cute, but of course is a lesbian so not romanceable + an abrasive personality (as you mentioned). Vivian is a ♥♥♥♥♥ and not romanceable. Josephine is not appealing to me at all (or you apparently) so yuck and I do agree Cassandra is appealing because of her personality, but physically she looks like she has been run through a blender.

Basically no good romance options except for Cassandra and that is for personality and not looks so my point is still valid that they did not create physically appealing characters for heterosexual males.

Fair enough, but you left out that important context of "romanceable by the (male) PC."

Also, I have to disagree with you on Cass's looks. She has a face with personality, which is more than many women have. And even if you can't get past that, she's got a rockin' bod! :-)

So I think some of this is a matter of personal taste and preference. Which really is my only point here! :-)

That's fair.

It\ just seems they could allow a heterosexual make a better variety of attractive options and sadly, gaming is going away from that these days.

[Yoinkyz]

dragon age npcs dont even look worse then a oblivion/skyrim game or fallout. its just cause the games have no hair physics. also morrigan doesnt even look different. google dao morrigan and then dai morrigan. the difference in appearance is due to dai being on the frosty engine and can be excused with her haveing a child and going through seemingly a second blight. morrigan has yet to do her mothers ritual to keep her looks.....

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Metallicus:

Originally posted by barzai:

Morrigan still looks fine.
Leliana still looks fine.
I certainly have no objections to Cassandra's looks, she's actually kinda my type :-)
Josephine doesn't float my boat but that's just a matter of personal preference, she's certainly neither ugly nor mannish.
Sera looks fine enough, if only I could get past her fingernails-on-a-blackboard attitude...
Ditto Vivienne.

...Who, exactly, are you calling unappealing, and why?

Morrigan is not romanceable and doesn't look as good as Origins. Lillianna is not romanceable and also doesn't look as good as Origins + she has a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ attitude. in DAI. Sera is kind of cute, but of course is a lesbian so not romanceable + an abrasive personality (as you mentioned). Vivian is a ♥♥♥♥♥ and not romanceable. Josephine is not appealing to me at all (or you apparently) so yuck and I do agree Cassandra is appealing because of her personality, but physically she looks like she has been run through a blender.

Basically no good romance options except for Cassandra and that is for personality and not looks so my point is still valid that they did not create physically appealing characters for heterosexual males.

I remember first time playing DAI and thinking why isn't Leliana or Morrigan romanceable. They are much more better choices for MC than any other romance option present in a game excluding Cass for being better written than rest, Viv's sassy but her political views are terrible and Josephine is not interesting to romance, at least to me. I do want to add that Leliana once again has a personal quest to either be hardened or become more peaceful which is exactly same thing Warden can do in DAO. It's not only a stupid character circle, but also such big disrespect to the HoF, MC who made franchise popular in first place now sidelined, barely mentioned and in Tapestry are blocked by a damn bookmark while Inquisitor is on top of all three characters.

I would say if it's female MC then Cullen's a good romance opt or Sera but if it's male MC only good option is Cass or Josephine. And Scout Harding exists but she is only romance option outside of companions and advisors, devs could've added more romanceable NPCs to Skyhold like city elf gardener or a vendor in Haven.

[Yoinkyz]

play dragon age origins if you want to know why dai doesnt have romance for morrigan and Liliana. both have valid reasons not to be interested/available to the inquisitor in more ways then 1.

also if you think cassandra is hot headed. your gona hate morrigan in dao

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Yikes:

play dragon age origins if you want to know why dai doesnt have romance for morrigan and Liliana. both have valid reasons not to be interested/available to the inquisitor in more ways then 1.

also if you think cassandra is hot headed. morrigan in dai is a absolute unit with no controll.....

No, I get this idea that some of them would be loyal to the Warden if romanced, but what if they weren't romanced by Warden. They don't have to be interested only in Warden, so I think it could've worked in Inquisition if done right. I'm just saying that if they had more wider range of romances, it'd be great and if you want DAO companions like Morrigan or Leliana locked from romance, then ok, but there could've been other characters then to romance. In DAO there could've been small romance encounters like with Dalish Elves or with Isabela in Denerim, in Inquisition it's more restricted to companions and advisors only and one mere character that was put in charge of scouts by not you.

Yeah, and Morrigan's great, she did have character growth in Inquisition which was good because Leliana was technically butchered in DAI by making her character go through same circle. It was one of only good parts of the awful Orlesian masquerade questline and that's all.

[Yoinkyz]

while i agree i would enjoy it and it can be done "correctly" they have such varying storys depending on your choices. that being said both leliana and morrigan use romance as a weapon. morrigan was raised bye a blackwidow/god. and Liliana is a orlesian spy who had a talent for romance. in both there dlc storys they backstab people more so morrigan. leliana just constantly lies in dao. for me imo them not being romancable makes sense for there charecter. them screwing the inqusitor would be a sign they havnt mentally developed from there past selfs aka blackwidows and liers
if dao had come out in this day and age. people would HATE morrigan she woulda been a classical feminist nightmare.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Yikes:

while i agree i would enjoy it and it can be done "correctly" they have such varying storys depending on your choices. that being said both leliana and morrigan use romance as a weapon. morrigan was raised bye a blackwidow/god. and Liliana is a orlesian spy who had a talent for romance. in both there dlc storys they backstab people more so morrigan. leliana just constantly lies in dao. for me imo them not being romancable makes sense for there charecter. them screwing the inqusitor would be a sign they havnt mentally developed from there past selfs aka blackwidows and liers
if dao had come out in this day and age. people would HATE morrigan she woulda been a classical feminist nightmare.

I didn't like Leliana's Song and don't want to consider it somehow canon. It screws over the established story and makes it less painful to listen her because she met Marjolaine before, she had a chance to ask why was Leli betrayed but it's just same message as in the quest "We are the same.", "No, you.". Also, I don't really think Morrigan or Leliana use the Warden, what if its a sincere love and Morrigan may even confess not wanting to loose a friend she just made after long years of living in isolation and learning from Warden. Leliana can be pursued in romance by male Warden while Female Warden can get a flirt talk from Leliana and she can reject or accept the move. I don't really see them both as "Blackwidows", if anyone it would be Zevran. Even if you have +10 neutral relationship with him, he will betray you and join the Crows again and only higher approval will get him to reject his friend and stay with Warden as friend/lover. Now, I agree that Leliana lied/concealed her past but eventually spoke the truth while Morrigan will talk willingly about her life in the Wilds with no secrets held back.
Why, she wasn't hated in Inquisition despite being sassy and people play Origins even now, hell I played it after Inquisition and thought she was good. It's not really feminism, but character writing done right. No one I've seen so far hated Cassandra, Vivienne's alright but her views are really awful yet she as a character isn't bad. Sera's a spoiled rich kid who left her foster parents eventually to become a criminal. And that's literally her childhood story, she was a city elf adopted by a noblewoman and considering how awful life in Alienages Sera was super lucky to get adopted like that.