Mod to improve the mage skill tree?

[black000fyre]

for one i dont know how to mod this yet.

but i played this before on xbox 360 and only got it recently because i just want to own all the dragon ages. but my biggest issues(and one of many many issues) is the mage skill trees being utterly gutted from previous games and having absolutely 0 substance to them. so i was wondering if there is a mod that just straight up overhauls the skill trees of the mage class at least. if not all classes/specializations.

[LukanGamer]

only did quick check on nexus try maybe
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/1438
(also he did other 2 classes apparently).

[Yoinkyz]

how were mages cut down? you still have fire ice lightning mind and 3 specializations? were ever you heard this complainant iv no idea what its based on.

[black000fyre]

Originally posted by Yikes:

how were mages cut down? you still have fire ice lightning mind and 3 specializations? were ever you heard this complainant iv no idea what its based on.

we only have 4 base skill trees which 3 of which fill out the spells previously found in the primal school of magic in DAO and the elemental school in DA2. as for the 3 specializations. none of them are very inspired or interesting.

[Yoinkyz]

Originally posted by black000fyre:

Originally posted by Yikes:

how were mages cut down? you still have fire ice lightning mind and 3 specializations? were ever you heard this complainant iv no idea what its based on.

we only have 4 base skill trees which 3 of which fill out the spells previously found in the primal school of magic in DAO and the elemental school in DA2. as for the 3 specializations. none of them are very inspired or interesting.

the specializations were far worse in daoat least they look cool now. instead of being a bunch of passives and toggles? your profile is witcher 3 ciri. if you like witcher 3 combat i assure you that dai combat isnt that bad......... its definitely got more gameplay verity then witcher 3 you should replay dao and see your 4 skill specializations. that will 80% of the time just be passives. dragon age 2 didnt even try bro. skill trees were all passives

[black000fyre]

Originally posted by Yikes:

Originally posted by black000fyre:

we only have 4 base skill trees which 3 of which fill out the spells previously found in the primal school of magic in DAO and the elemental school in DA2. as for the 3 specializations. none of them are very inspired or interesting.

the specializations were far worse in dao:riddle:at least they look cool now. instead of being a bunch of passives and toggles? your profile is witcher 3 ciri. if you like witcher 3 combat i assure you that dai combat isnt that bad......... its definitely got more gameplay verity then witcher 3 :Geralt: you should replay dao and see your 4 skill specializations. that will 80% of the time just be passives. dragon age 2 didnt even try bro. skill trees were all passives

ive put near around 5 k hours into just DA2 alone and DAO is one of my most played games ever and my favorite game of all time. with the specializations in DAO there is 4 tiers in them and for the most part they are very impactful but then you look at the skill/spell trees otherwise and they are massive with many different ways to build your characters. DA2 is more dumbed down yes but the abilities are still impactful enough to be useful and add on that every companion has a custom specialization that fits them its much better then the simple and trash specializations in DAI. Varric for example is a returning character and in DA2 he had a specialization focusing around his story telling and use of Bianka. but in DAI he has a specialization focusing on traps which is not something Varric has ever shown doing before.

[LukanGamer]

I mean DAi has the upgrade choices to each ability so there plenty ways to build character more then DAO though I do wish it had DAO's combos and expanded upon them, just try the mod I pointed out maybe it helps idk, gl hope this point was not just to talk about your opinion and not an actual asked question.

[Rambit]

hated playing mage in this game. i go mage every time in dao, but this game, was a regret buy which i own using the origin launcher

[Yoinkyz]

Originally posted by Everett Ramheart:

hated playing mage in this game. i go mage every time in dao, but this game, was a regret buy which i own using the origin launcher

that just doesnt make any sense doe..... you miss your hexs? cna apply a 25% defence debuff with hexes such a shame

[Rambit]

Originally posted by Yikes:

Originally posted by Everett Ramheart:

hated playing mage in this game. i go mage every time in dao, but this game, was a regret buy which i own using the origin launcher

that just doesnt make any sense doe..... you miss your hexs? cna apply a 25% defence debuff with hexes such a shame

dai is just bad...yea...i know its just...its not fun and im never going to install it again

[Yoinkyz]

i doudt you really play many games if you think dai is bad, just running on nostalgia

[Jondar Korric]

Originally posted by Yikes:

i doudt you really play many games if you think dai is bad, just running on nostalgia

Dragon Age Inquisition is complete crap. and that opinion is just reinforced after playing Wrath the Righteous.

[Yoinkyz]

i have unironically within the last 2 weeks remade my entire modlist and am enjoying dai.

list of some small mods that have big impact
[All Skill Trees for Inquisitor] insane replayability i have the most sick shield knight mage build
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/3054
[Armor - No Class Restrictions Remade]
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/842/?tab=description
[No Class Restrictions on Weapons]
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/760/
[Buttflap Be Gone] it is what it is
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/1250
[Custom Body Models]
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/605
[Party Banter Tweaks] this can allow for short spurts of this game to be more rewarding
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/3603?tab=files
[Heartbreaker difficulty for SP - New abilities and faster enemies]
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/1818
OriginAlistair (An Alistair Overhaul Mod)
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/2767
[Less Shards Please - An Oculara Rebalance] BEST MOD cuts down on tedious trash
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/3528
[Dialogue Wheel Overhaul]
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/3088
[Cassandra Hair Options - No Braid - Longer Hair]
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/2648
[Companion Trees and Tints]
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/3337/?tab=description
[Skills Enhanced - Bugfixes and Tweaks (Frosty)
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/3808
just install them all with frosty you dont need the other mod manager anymore. frosty can install pretty much everything these days all compatible too i get very few crashs i have many more mods too.


all i can say is if you dont like dai then it must suck being you and only have 3 games you like in the hole wide world

dai is better then elden ring

[Zaris]

Originally posted by Yikes:

how were mages cut down? you still have fire ice lightning mind and 3 specializations? were ever you heard this complainant iv no idea what its based on.

Just a little comparison:
- DA:O: Had about 4 spell schools with each 16 spells = 64 spells and on top 16 general passives / spells which makes a whopping ~82 spells / passives.

- DA2: 6 general spell trees with each ~12 spells / passives in it and every hero had a unique tree on top with 12 abilities and the MC even had 3 unique trees which totales to over 100 abilities for mages

- DA:I 4 spell trees each ~12 abitlies and for each hero a special one and the MC 3 to choose from, in total maybe 100 abilities

The biggest difference here is DA:O had 4-5 big AOE spells like fire/ice/lightningstorm and 2-3 AOE stun / cc spells and 3-4 single target stuns (cage, petrify, paralyze). This was already dumped down in DA2 but at least petrify / cage were still there and walking bomb / fireball. In DA:I they removed more or less all CC spells (paralyse 2 sec or freeze 4 sec remained but most bigger enemies are immune anyway) and the AOE spells were tiny / hard to use (firemine with 3 sec activation time, enemies just run out of it and blizzard as big AOe is just too weak).

[Yoinkyz]

god forbid you miss out on the flame weapon buff repeated for every weapon type. the same aoe like i get it. if you just want more of the same. but dragon age inquisition has the power fantasy way higher if your a big pp modder. sure i cant cant blizzard , inferno, earthquake aoes. all virtually the same thing. thats to say i like dragon age origins. dragon age 2 was even more limited.

also im not sure were you are getting your numbers. dai has 32 mage spells +plus 24 unique spells necromancy,riftmage,knight enchanter, then if you include like the 4 inquisitor specific skills then its more. god only knows how many passives you get. look i get dai is hated but there is something in there worth playing i have like 300 hours in the game.

[Zaris]

Originally posted by Yikes:

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Seems you didn't understand my post but well i formulate it in another way:

In DA:O and 2 the mage was a good damage dealer (aoe bomber) and stunner (petrify, cage, paralyse) which made fights quite easy. In DA:I they went to far and only one bad blizzard is left and 2-4 sec stuns/freezes with most enemies immune against it. That's why the mage is only there for barrier spam and maybe revive, that's it.

A similiar fate had the warrior. In DA:O the dual wield warrior was most likely the strongest warrior dps, after that 2h and the tank version could finish fights even when the rest of the group was dead. The warrior was already gimped in DA2 and in DA:I he's even more useless while DW/ranged rogue have still quite the high dps output.

In other words all 3 classes had strong damage builds in DA:O while in DA:I only the rogue is left.