Before you buy - Huge issues with crafting.

[Grimaldus]

I learned this the hard way. The endgame crafting material is VERY limited,
doesn't respawn and besides cheating or editing your savefile, there is no way
to farm these endgame materials to craft items for yourself or companions.

There's a total of 5 Veilquarts nodes in the game, and they don't respawn,
and there's a total of 8 dragons, which drops a random amount of resources,
and they don't respawn either... for obvious reasons.

So basically, you're either forced to pay dearly for each piece of dragon material
at 2 vendors (about 3-400 a piece) or just wait until you have reached the end of
the game and you craft the items you want with the few resources you get.

Me personally think this was a mistake by the devs, but they never bothered fixing it.

[Grimaldus]

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I've played through twice now, I didn't have any issues building the things i wanted. Sometimes you need to hunt a little, but in the end it's not a huge deal

You can't hunt or farm Veil Quarts or Dragon Bone, they are very limited.

There is also the issue with that before you're even halfway through the game,
you have all the gear you need, which mean that over half the game to the end,
you'll be running around with the same items.

I've had the same axe and armor since before Frostback Basin
and i haven't even done either of the DLC's.

[JC]

well, like i said i played through the entire game, all the DLC and basically every single quest in one of my plays and never felt like i didn't have what i needed, Nor did my quicker play which i did about half the stuff sorta skipping along to the end. Neither did i feel like i was missing something.

You save the key items for when you need them. I also updated my gear as i went a long. Never felt like i needed to make tough choices so i certainly did not wear the same thing the whole time. It felt like every time i was back at base i was tweaking something.


You said you have to pay dearly for it, sounds like you can get what you need you just don't want to buy it? And yes from time to time i had to search vendors but Money was never an issue either.

Sounds like you just want a mod, there must be some around to fix your issue.

[Grimaldus]

I love how people are trying to defend the lack of gearing up, with how
the game is either able to be modded (thus making up for Developer shortcommings),
or simply just sticking their head in the sand and pretending there are no issues
with the way the item-system is handled .

I crafted a Battlemaster armor using dragon bone when i was pre-20,
and i've now had the same armor for the rest of the game.. and there are no
new scematics that are better, even tho i have invested in the "connections".

Imo this is a huge letdown and a big problem, having players able to max out
our gear at such an early level and the devs just simply ignore that it's an issue.

[EA Latium]

Same here, I have more than 1K hours and never had issues of these type.

[Grimaldus]

İlk olarak EA Latium tarafından gönderildi:

Same here, I have more than 1K hours and never had issues of these type.

So you're saying that a player reaching max itemization not even halfway
into the game and playing the rest of the game with the same items is NOT an issue?.
I'd say you're a part of the issue then...people not minding having almost no
item-progress through the majority of the game.

A player should be able to gain better gear the higher level they get,
at certain intervals of levels. Having players maxing out their possible
items at even low lvls and not being able to upgrade... is stupid.

The moment you gain access to the Black Imporium,
the player can buy the best weapons in the game, and craft them,
and this is available very early in the game.

If someone had told me what i could have the best gear available
long before i even get halfway into the game, i don't think i would've bought it.
There's this thing called progress in character development and power
that is rather important to RPG games.

[EA Latium]

I haven't said nor implied anything like that in fact.

The Black Emporium came out six months after release, and to me it always looked like aimed at returning players rather being part of the core experience, a bit like the Golden Nug.

As I said earlier there isn't anything that can be considered the absolute "best" gear, as you level up you have access to more Perks and changing your strategies will need different gear as well, that alone can spice things up a bit.

My suggestion is put some Trials on and don't use the Emporium's Schematics if you want a more organic progression, the game is pretty "modular" when it comes to balance and difficulty, it's really up to you.

This is what I meant when I said that I never had these issues.

[JC]

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İlk olarak EA Latium tarafından gönderildi:

Same here, I have more than 1K hours and never had issues of these type.

So you're saying that a player reaching max itemization not even halfway
into the game and playing the rest of the game with the same items is NOT an issue?.
I'd say you're a part of the issue then...people not minding having almost no
item-progress through the majority of the game.

A player should be able to gain better gear the higher level they get,
at certain intervals of levels. Having players maxing out their possible
items at even low lvls and not being able to upgrade... is stupid.

The moment you gain access to the Black Imporium,
the player can buy the best weapons in the game, and craft them,
and this is available very early in the game.

If someone had told me what i could have the best gear available
long before i even get halfway into the game, i don't think i would've bought it.
There's this thing called progress in character development and power
that is rather important to RPG games.

So you went to the black imporium and got end game gear, then are complaining that you can't get end game gear because you already had end game gear?


The black emporium is a in game cheat, nothing more nothing less. It's for people that either don't care about balance or are having a hard time playing the game so they get end game stuff to make it easier. (it's also to tweak your look)

Hell lots of games have these types of DLC's and i'm not gonna bother to list them, but tons of games have these types of game breaking DLC. (aka balance breaking) Some people need um to make it to the end, Others don't.


Next time try not buying all the end game gear so early, the game is a lot more fun. BTW if you ever play mass effect andromeda Don't use the pathfinder gear it is the exact same thing, end game gear at the start of the game.



Dragon age origins has a ton of top end loot at the start of the game. Before you leave lothering you can have the best rogue armor in the game from completing Lilianna's quest. Blood dragon armor (same armor can be used in Mass effect) A bunch of top weapons and jewlery from random injections.

then you can leave lothering and do both the DLC's, wardens keep, get wardens armor and a couple sweet swords and some other high end items, Then go hit Return to ostigar and get Mereks armor and weapons and a couple other random great items. So basically at about 15% of the game complete you have end game gear for 3 characters which you won't find better if at all. To level up that gear just stuff it in the Storage chest at wardens keep and presto it raises tier, so you can use that stuff from basically start to finish.

[White Knight]

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I've mentioned a couple of times how I slayed five dragons and don't have enough materials to make myself a bow made of dragon bone.

Since this apparently makes perfect sense to you both, I'm curious to hear how many dragons you think it should take to make yourself a bow?

[EA Latium]

Dragon Bone is one of the best Materials in-game (not really recommended for bows as it gives Strength), by the time you actually need these type of equipment is readily available in the DLC shops -which can be accessed at any point after Skyhold if you'd like anyway. It can also be looted in The Descent.

There are 60 of them in the game beside the ones you can buy, that's plenty for such a high Tier Material.

Edit: They can also be bought in the Emporium in case.

[White Knight]

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Dragon Bone...

So instead of answering a simple question, you tell me about endgame dlc and the Black Emporium?

I haven't suggested that it isn't possible to do. I said that I find it odd, that slaying five dragons isn't enough to make myself a bow.

Denying this seems quite absurd to me. Which is why I asked you, "how many dragons do you think it should take to make a bow?"

On second thought... don't bother. This is just silly. I am of the opinion that the game is tad too stingy with Tier 4 materials.

[EA Latium]

I tried to give you a solution. If you knew already that you wouldn't like the answer, why asking it in first place.

I told you about endgame DLC because Tier 4 Materials are precisely aimed at endgame crafting.

[JC]

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I've mentioned a couple of times how I slayed five dragons and don't have enough materials to make myself a bow made of dragon bone.

Since this apparently makes perfect sense to you both, I'm curious to hear how many dragons you think it should take to make yourself a bow?

I'ts been a while since i played the entire game to late game so it is hazzy, but i did start a new play recently. All i can tell you is i never was not able to build something i wanted some times that meant traveling to vendors to get what i needed but i don't recall having to wait to really go out of my way to make items. Sure sometimes i had to wait or get stuff, but that's how it works at times. Did you already use the items in something else?

Dragon bone is end game stuff, So it only makes sense it is end game crafting. Though there are ways to get stuff early if you work at it.


Here is a list of places you can get it and what it costs, or where to loot it. You don't need to kill dragons if you want to get it sooner.
https://dragonage.fandom.com/wiki/Crafting_materials

Looted from Highdragons

Available at Emporium's Crafting Materials for 254 Currency (Inquisition).png (x40).

Available by the Crafting Materials Merchant in the Legion of the Dead Camp for 381 Currency (Inquisition).png (x150).
Note: The Descent required.

Looted from the southeast canister in the Legion of the Dead Camp at the Storm Coast Fissure in the Deep Roads (x30).
Note: The Descent required.

Available at the Winter Palace Merchant for 127 Currency (Inquisition).png (infinite amount).
Note: Trespasser required.

[White Knight]

Still no answers from the fanboys...

Six dragons? Seven?

In my mind, when my character took down the first dragon and the nobles threw a party to celebrate my wondrous achievement, I kind of thought it might be nice to make myself something to mark the occasion.

So my archer went out and killed some more dragons... and then a few more... and then I found myself wondering how many dragons are left in the game-world?

It's a very simple question and one that has a very obvious answer to any reasonable person. There's no need to try and defend your fav game from all criticism - we're just players talking about a game we love to play.

The answer to my question, is "yeah, that is kind of dumb - it shouldn't take more than five dragons to find enough materials to make one bow."

You could have tried to make arguments like "maybe dragons are made of cartilage", or "only the baculum can store enough magic to be used in crafting" - at least these kinds of arguments would address my perfectly reasonable question.

[EA Latium]

Addressing people as "fanboys" because they don't give you the answer you like doesn't come across very well, mind you.

The reality is that there isn't an answer to that, because different Schematics require different amount of Materials, Dragon Bone is no exception.

JC and I haven't given you any opinions on the matter, that doesn't mean we may not have our own criticisms on the game in general, we simply stuck on topic explaining you the logic behind and telling our experiences.

Take this info as you will.

Edit: There are 10 Dragons in total.

[White Knight]

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Addressing people as "fanboys" because they don't give you the answer you like doesn't come across very well, mind you.

I called you a fanboy specifically because you refused to address the question. Instead, you decided to educate me on the various ways a player could work around an obvious shortcoming.

Why spend your time trying to defend the indefensible? From where I'm sitting, it looks like some people cannot stand to have anyone make a criticism of a game they like, no matter how rational or reasonable it may be.

Is that not definitively, "fanboy" behaviour?

Dragons are big creatures, they have lots of bones. Did you see that skeleton hanging in that Orlesian mansion? Looks to me like plenty of material to use in crafting a bow - if I'm being unreasonable, please help me understand where I'm going wrong. Trying to dismiss my arguments and talking about where you can go to purchase crafting materials is not helpful in any way.

(I must be worse at communicating than I thought? Was there something in my words that gave you the impression I didn't know how to use Google?)