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eric.dalton Dec 19, 2022 @ 4:21am
Ctrl + Shift + C doesn't open console
I've verified the install and removed all mods but nothing happens when I try to open the console. Is it just me or did something change? Thanks in advance!
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Jack Schitt Dec 20, 2022 @ 6:48am 
How are you pressing the key combination? It's not going to bring up the console if you tap CTRL then tap Shift then tap C. You have to press and hold CTRL then press and hold Shift while you're holding CTRL so you're then holding CTRL and Shift pressed at the same time then tap C so you're pressing all 3 buttons at the same time.
eric.dalton Dec 20, 2022 @ 7:21am 
Thanks Jack but I'm definitely using all three together. That did get me thinking that I should test that shortcut in other software where it *should* work and ... it doesn't! Firefox, Paint3d, Gmail all failed. I can't set a Windows Shortcut to that keybinding either. Perhaps a recent Windows update has mapped CTRL-SHIFT-C to ... something? I don't know what else it could be but at least I have a starting point and can blame Windows rather than The Sims. :)
Jack Schitt Dec 20, 2022 @ 8:39am 
CTRL+SHIFT+C is not a Windows Keyboard Command ("shortcut" as you're referring to it as).
Other programs do have that key command assigned to do something but it doesn't open a console in any other application I know of other than this game.

I'm also curious as to how you tried to 'set a Windows "Shortcut" (keyboard command) to that keybinding'. It's not impossible to do, I know a few ways of doing it, but it's not something everyone in the world knows how to do.

Do you know what CTRL+SHIFT+C is supposed to do in Gmail?
I do. I'm asking to confirm you know. We can use that to test the command to see if it's working.
eric.dalton Dec 20, 2022 @ 5:45pm 
Yeah, Microsoft's nomenclature for symbolic links and the key bindings to execute them both being called "shortcuts" causes some confusion. For testing I was pulling up the settings of a desktop application shortcut by using ALT-ENTER to bring up the properties. On the Shortcut tab there's an option to add a "Shortcut Key" and typing CTRL-SHIFT-C reverts to "None". The keystroke combination was failing to open the console in Firefox and Chrome and not bringing up the CC when sending mail within GMail so I knew it was system wide.

I tried a minimal boot with almost nothing running and the problem persisted. I booted into safe mode and it was resolved. Aha! From there it was logical that the binding was caused by a service or driver rather than normal software that runs at startup. It turns out a some recently auto-updated video card software added hotkeys to take screen shots, toggle camera on/of, etc. Having roots at the driver level allowed it to take precedence over any software running on top of the OS. I was able to disable the hotkeys in that app and now all is well with the world. Well, in my Sims world anyway. :D

Thanks for getting me thinking in the right direction!
Jack Schitt Dec 20, 2022 @ 6:29pm 
I don't mean offense by anything I've typed here. My intentions are to be helpful. I cut it up to be thorough, not to tear what you said apart in an insulting way. Feel free to Google what I've said to verify it.

Originally posted by eric.dalton:
Yeah, Microsoft's nomenclature for symbolic links and the key bindings to execute them both being called "shortcuts" causes some confusion.

Microsoft didn't screw that up. People screw it up.
A shortcut is an image (icon) that executes (runs) a command. They can do many things; open something, and make a program run are some of the things they can do.

A key press combination that causes an action is a Keyboard Command.

Originally posted by eric.dalton:
For testing I was pulling up the settings of a desktop application shortcut by using ALT-ENTER to bring up the properties. On the Shortcut tab there's an option to add a "Shortcut Key"
When you see a "Shortcut" tab in an icon's properties window that icon you got properties on _IS_ a Shortcut. No other icon properties window has the shortcut tab. Only shortcuts have the shortcut tab.

Originally posted by eric.dalton:
and typing CTRL-SHIFT-C reverts to "None".
The only key combination command that field will accept is CTRL+ALT+[another_key]
It will not accept any other combination. Even if you press ONE key while your cursor is in that field to set it "CTRL+ALT" will appear, because that's all it allows to be set as a keyboard command to run that action. It's defaulting to None because you're trying to give it a value it doesn't accept.

Originally posted by eric.dalton:
The keystroke combination was failing to open the console in Firefox and Chrome
CTRL+SHIFT+C does not open the Developer Console in FireFox or Chrome. That key combination doesn't do anything in those browsers. CTRL+SHIFT+i (eye as in Issac) or the function key F12 opens the Developer Console in Chrome and FireFox.

Originally posted by eric.dalton:
and not bringing up the CC when sending mail within GMail so I knew it was system wide.
That should have worked if you had a Compose Message window opened in any browser. If you were doing it in an Email client that's why it didn't work, because it's not a command for the pop3/imap client you used.
CTRL+SHIFT+C only does that when a Compose Message window is open and active in a browser.

Originally posted by eric.dalton:
It turns out a some recently auto-updated video card software added hotkeys to take screen shots,
Nvidia's Experience Software does that. It's not driver related. Drivers don't and can't do things like change or set a keyboard command. They make hardware communicate with software and can edit the firmware of a hardware device.

Originally posted by eric.dalton:
toggle camera on/of, etc. Having roots at the driver level allowed it to take precedence over any software running on top of the OS. I was able to disable the hotkeys in that app and now all is well with the world. Well, in my Sims world anyway. :D

Thanks for getting me thinking in the right direction!
Glad I could help! If I did. It was an additional program causing it. The Nvidia software "Experience" does not need to run or even be installed it's bloatware. The driver is all the card needs to run. Control Panel (CP) is helpful to have. CP is separate from the "Experience" software.

So this is resolved? You figured it out and the console opens in the game now?
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