Will EA have to reconsider Sims 5?

[Xenon The Noble]

Word on Wall Street is that Electronic Arts stock fell 7% because "Global Football" and Dragon Age didn't meet the predicted sales.
Electronic Arts needs products. Will they get some decent coders and fill the gap with a marketable Sims 5, or continue their disastrous business decisions and complain that they customers don't buy what they want to sell?

[Xautos]

Those disastrous business decisions are borne largely out of their diversity schemes and lack of ability to make decisions the customers want, but what they can try get more of for themselves.

EA needs to focus less on these alternative options and more about getting back to basics, something they are entirely unwilling to even consider any more.

[Daedrius]

Originally posted by Xautos:

Those disastrous business decisions are borne largely out of their diversity schemes and lack of ability to make decisions the customers want, but what they can try get more of for themselves.

EA needs to focus less on these alternative options and more about getting back to basics, something they are entirely unwilling to even consider any more.

Yup. I've been saying for a long time they need to cast a wider net target audience. They'd rather shun traditional families and values though, while claiming they're being inclusive.🙄

It's literally their own faut.

[kerawinters]

Modern EA hires based on diversity, not talent. The previous developers who actually made and coded The Sims series have left the studio a long time ago. It's the same with the Mass Effect, Battlefield series and other EA games. And with the massive layoffs due to the lack of Dragon Age Veilguard's sales, I doubt the company has the funds to make another The Sims game to compete with other upcoming life simulator games like inZOI.

InZOI will most likely take over the "The Sims" market because it looks better than The Sims 4 but mostly importantly, there is no DEI. Women actually look attractive and men are masculine as they should be. And that alone is going to sell more than The Sims 4.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2456740/inZOI/

[Xenon The Noble]

I don't think the problem was Sims 4, but rather Global Football and Dragon Age.
Sometimes a company with multiple products will shift investment from a weak product to a stronger one. I didn't see them mention weak sales of Sims that would have sparked the fall (looks like 17% not 7%).

[Daedrius]

Originally posted by kerawinters:

Modern EA hires based on diversity, not talent. The previous developers who actually made and coded The Sims series have left the studio a long time ago. It's the same with the Mass Effect, Battlefield series and other EA games. And with the massive layoffs due to the lack of Dragon Age Veilguard's sales, I doubt the company has the funds to make another The Sims game to compete with other upcoming life simulator games like inZOI.

InZOI will most likely take over the "The Sims" market because it looks better than The Sims 4 but mostly importantly, there is no DEI. Women actually look attractive and men are masculine as they should be. And that alone is going to sell more than The Sims 4.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2456740/inZOI/

Maybe. At least for people with good computers. inZoi is made in UE5 which requires a somewhat higher end PC while the Sims 4 can still run good on lower end PC's.

I'll definitely be checking it out though. I'm facinated with NVIDIA's AI that's going to be in the game. It's kind of mind blowing and it should make the Zoi's more unpredictable.

Oh, and CARS! 😃

[Phae]

Wow They look like real people. It looks like they are really on the beach having fun. That is so ....WoW Those babies look so real as well. Everything is so real looking. Hope it has a world to do things and places to go.

[Arkhyel]

Originally posted by kerawinters:

Modern EA hires based on diversity, not talent. The previous developers who actually made and coded The Sims series have left the studio a long time ago. It's the same with the Mass Effect, Battlefield series and other EA games. And with the massive layoffs due to the lack of Dragon Age Veilguard's sales, I doubt the company has the funds to make another The Sims game to compete with other upcoming life simulator games like inZOI.

InZOI will most likely take over the "The Sims" market because it looks better than The Sims 4 but mostly importantly, there is no DEI. Women actually look attractive and men are masculine as they should be. And that alone is going to sell more than The Sims 4.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2456740/inZOI/

That's the Korean one, right? It's getting confusing to follow all these. One got cancelled, other one is not even on early access (and has optional DEI stuff), one (this I guess) was accused about having AI...

For the record, I don't have anything against DEI or AI, but some people have very strong feelings about those subjects and might not buy, if one or both are included in any form.

EDIT: And then there was supposed to be this one Sims clone which would never have a single paid DLC. It was unclear to me if it's gonna have only free DLCs or no DLCs at all. What was that about?

[Daedrius]

Originally posted by Arkhyel:

Originally posted by kerawinters:

Modern EA hires based on diversity, not talent. The previous developers who actually made and coded The Sims series have left the studio a long time ago. It's the same with the Mass Effect, Battlefield series and other EA games. And with the massive layoffs due to the lack of Dragon Age Veilguard's sales, I doubt the company has the funds to make another The Sims game to compete with other upcoming life simulator games like inZOI.

InZOI will most likely take over the "The Sims" market because it looks better than The Sims 4 but mostly importantly, there is no DEI. Women actually look attractive and men are masculine as they should be. And that alone is going to sell more than The Sims 4.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2456740/inZOI/

That's the Korean one, right? It's getting confusing to follow all these. One got cancelled, other one is not even on early access (and has optional DEI stuff), one (this I guess) was accused about having AI...

For the record, I don't have anything against DEI or AI, but some people have very strong feelings about those subjects and might not buy, if one or both are included in any form.

EDIT: And then there was supposed to be this one Sims clone which would never have a single paid DLC. It was unclear to me if it's gonna have only free DLCs or no DLCs at all. What was that about?

Not sure why anyone would be against this AI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk9z1upOj3U

[Xautos]

InZoi will have some of those DEI elements as an option, but it won't be a big focus like EA has done with TS4. It's because it's a Korean made game where traditional values and family structures are still considered very important that it's unlikely these DEI options will ever be given much weight. There is not a great deal of support for the DEI stuff out there, even though they allow it.

[Xenon The Noble]

Hope springs eternal. We see what we want to see. Most are blind to the critical eye.

[kerawinters]

Originally posted by Arkhyel:

That's the Korean one, right? It's getting confusing to follow all these. One got cancelled, other one is not even on early access (and has optional DEI stuff), one (this I guess) was accused about having AI...

For the record, I don't have anything against DEI or AI, but some people have very strong feelings about those subjects and might not buy, if one or both are included in any form.

EDIT: And then there was supposed to be this one Sims clone which would never have a single paid DLC. It was unclear to me if it's gonna have only free DLCs or no DLCs at all. What was that about?

Yes, inZOI is made by KRAFTON from South Korea. And just like Stellar Blade, there is no DEI in the game. There will be same sex romance but there will be no forced agendas like how EA does it.

Also the AI stuff is actually a good thing. Unlike in Sims 4, the npc's in inZOI will actually schedule their daily lives in the simulation (Breakfast, work, lunch, dating, marriage, starting a family, etc) while you, the player can focus on your character.

[Piperbird]

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

Will EA have to reconsider Sims 5?

No. As long as the cult following this game has keeps blindly shelling out money for broken stuff, they have no need to ever move on to a new game.

[Xeriath]

Even if they do. I would never purchase Sims 5. I would rather give InZOI/Paralife a chance as to purchase the next Sim, especially because I know my generation is not the generation which EA wants as a customer.

Generally speaking; after they destroyed my favorite Dragon Age/Mass Effect franchise, I am not sure if I will ever purchase a product from them again.

[Phae]

Originally posted by Piperbird:

Originally posted by Xenon The Noble:

Will EA have to reconsider Sims 5?

No. As long as the cult following this game has keeps blindly shelling out money for broken stuff, they have no need to ever move on to a new game.

Good point

[Phae]

Originally posted by Daedrius:

Originally posted by Arkhyel:

That's the Korean one, right? It's getting confusing to follow all these. One got cancelled, other one is not even on early access (and has optional DEI stuff), one (this I guess) was accused about having AI...

For the record, I don't have anything against DEI or AI, but some people have very strong feelings about those subjects and might not buy, if one or both are included in any form.

EDIT: And then there was supposed to be this one Sims clone which would never have a single paid DLC. It was unclear to me if it's gonna have only free DLCs or no DLCs at all. What was that about?

Not sure why anyone would be against this AI.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk9z1upOj3U

I do like what I see so far with Inzoi.. I do have to wonder about the actual play in regards to not just the development and such of the character but in the build and decorating aspect of the game as a whole.
I think this way for those that are not only creative in building families and lives for them but for those that love to build and decorate and create ranches, farms and such. There are many that play Sims 4 that don't actually play but just build and like my self I am getting to the point of creating neighborhoods or shopping/play/fun places ..I have not seen much on those types of things so far. The character creation is a big thing and so far I like that but will I be able to do other things that don't involve just socializing and looking good? If so will it be as realistic as the character?

This is something that the bug infested Sims 4 does offer. The characters don't look real and many movements are stiff and unrealistic but there is a side to it that many of us will be looking at more than just a human like character.