Waiting for changes

[Andromeda]

In a way I am waiting for InZOI, because Sims are sometimes too irritating. There are times when I have to give command many times and in the end nothing happens, because the person I wanted the sim to talk to is gone. Or some other black scenarios. I hope that there is coming a game there the characters will do what they are told. Either EA is unable to fix this problem, or they did it on purpose. Either way, this is not a good feeling and it is unnecessary.

[chapais]

I hope you understand that InZoi will be an early release, meaning bugs and plenty more to develop later, so if you expect to be like the Sims you are in for a big despoilment. The Sims has more bugs than we can imagine, but had 25 years to work on them, (sadly ignore it and decided to become a vampire sucking every penny they could) but the sims are the sims, I also look forward to InZoi to come out but understand that they will be a long road ahead for them to catch up to The Sims empire.

[Zombine3D]

Originally posted by chapais:

The Sims has more bugs than we can imagine, but had 25 years to work on them,

lol, how delusional are you?

[Daedrius]

Originally posted by Zombine3D:

Originally posted by chapais:

The Sims has more bugs than we can imagine, but had 25 years to work on them,

lol, how delusional are you?

How is that delusional? The first game released 25 years ago and I agree, it's the buggiest game I've ever played. Even now there's a bug with facial expressions getting stuck with the wrong moodlets and it's happening constantly. Take a look at some of their half-assed builds like Agave Abode, Hounds Head, Rustic Residence, 1010 Alto apartments where sims get stuck or can't use things because of the way they built and did no testing. I could go on... Even now sims will get stuck on rocks zoning onto the little island in Windenberg. Zoning into the bluffs with 3-4 sims also gets a sim stuck by the rock at the entrance quite a lot. The sleeping bug, gardening bug, water drinking bug.... ALL STILL IN THE GAME.

[Casul Gamer]

It is kind of wild that this game has been out over 10 years and there's no sequel. I just started playing so I can't comment about bugs, but it seems like if they want this to be a live service game they should fix them.

I'm not a game dev so I don't really know what to say. We've been waiting even longer for a sequel to Skyrim. It's been close to 15 years. At least with that game, modders fixed a lot of the bugs (and mods were also free rather than paid DLCs...at least until recently).

As for Inzoi, having a $40 price tag for early access game means that the devs have to know how important it will be to fix bugs and other issues ASAP or they'll be flooded with negative reviews. Gamers are very quick to glaze a game they like, but also very quick to turn on a game that disappoints them.

[chapais]

Originally posted by Zombine3D:

Originally posted by chapais:

The Sims has more bugs than we can imagine, but had 25 years to work on them,

lol, how delusional are you?

I assume you are a kid, I seeing The Sims from the first series, played since 2000. I understand not everyone will like InZoi, but like I've said earlier I will give it a fair chance, unlike those that judge without having tried it, we call that talking trough your donkey.
Plenty are really good at doing that, sadly. the sims community is awful in that part.
FYI Have you ever look at the report bugs in EA? do you actually know how many bugs are reported versus bugs that are fixed for the sims4, so before barking please look at the facts.

[Horns Ablaze]

https://forums.ea.com/idea/the-sims-4-bug-reports-en/read-first-compiled-list-of-reported-issues/5052943

This is what looks like to not solve bugs in The Sims 4 since release. Note that those are categories that expand into LOTS of threads. Also note, many bugs that have been marked as solved, aren't in fact solved at all. Also, they have this sadistic tendency of merging unrelated threads into each other. Also, not all bugs are reported, because you get to a point that you know it is useless to report it... They won't bother.

The EA forum is just a gas-lighting tool (my opinion). Another one, next to YouTubers (fact). Reminds me of such wise saying as "don't believe what you see on the news on TV".

There is only one way they will actually start to fix the game, and that is when most of simmers stop buying their products. That will never happen. Enjoy the mess, that's what I am doing.

Unless... You switch to Inzoi. But... Inzoi is not The Sims. As far as I know, Inzoi isn't even LGBT friendly, and why would anyone want a life sim without LGBT inclusion. Another but is, you need a quantum computer to run it properly, lol. Most simmers play on their toaster and they will stick to that.

[Xeriath]

The game is in early access for a reason. In the settings you can choice if your Zoi is a gay/lesbian. You can get married too. The only downside is that at the moment not really pre created LGBTQ+ Zois exist and seems all Zois are per default straight. But a player can always create Zois with the preference they want.

They will do so much as possible they can. We should not forget that the company is in China and of course they have restrictions which they need to follow.

[Xenon The Noble]

There really ought to be a way to set these shill threads pushing another product so that you can't see them.
It's annoying, the unethical of this.

[Xeriath]

Xenon, you need to understand that people have enough from EA. So these people search for another product and post it here. This is not because they dislike Sims 4 per se but they dislike the way EA treats Sims 4.

I like Sims 4 and I don’t need an open world but I prefer a working product which doesn’t is a buggy mess. If InZOI helps that EA finally give Maxis the resources which they needed to fix this game I am completely okey with all these *ads* here. If you dislike that just don’t click on them or if you see it again as an ad for InZOI just leave without comment.

[Andromeda]

Yes, I did not want to mention the bugs, because this is kicking a person on the ground. There are times, when I think that there is something wrong with my computer. But I have no problems with other games. So, I am not scared of early edition. I am merely scared of 25 year old edition, which gives my computer a hard time.

[Xeriath]

No, it is not your computer. Maybe sometimes you outdated mods, but you know this already. Sims 4 is the first product which I need to avoid gameplay features because I know they can and will corrupt my save on my long run. You would think these bugs get priority in fixing but no, they rather advertise the product which speeds up this procedure (For Rent)

[chapais]

You need to keep in mind that not everyone will be able to play InZOi, so frustrated players will hate it just because they can't play, the requirement for it is much higher then the sims. they also will have mods, giving that the same problem will exist, update will affect the mods and cause problem that aren't the game fault.
People sometimes have too high of expectation, I looked at plenty of play through and see bugs here and there and that is without mods so I know that it is to be expected.
those who can't accept that save yourself the investment and wait till its updated and more to your expectation. as The Sims like others did mention this maybe exactly what they need it, a shock to wake them up, see that trouble is ahead as Ubisoft just finally realized lately.

[Andromeda]

Yes, I am aware that the new game might be a disappointment, but I hope that it will be a wake up call for EA. I really like Sims. I like doing things that we cannot do in real life. There is also uncertainty if the new game will meet our expectations. But mostly, as I said, I hope that EA must do something to improve bad PR. Competition is good.
BTW, can it be bought through Steam?

[PrimusNephilim]

Originally posted by Andromeda:

There are times when I have to give command many times and in the end nothing happens, because the person I wanted the sim to talk to is gone.

I equate this to, Sims 4 is like herding cats, I'm constantly correcting their actions. for example reading skill books or completing a job assignment on the computer, I give them a task and 5 seconds later and they're off doing something completely different. I check the action bar and they have no needs highlighted, like they need to eat, sleep or something, they just get up and start a conversation with a roommate or something completely off the wall, its like they all have ADHD.

That is the frustrating part of the game for me, its gets tiring of constantly redirecting them and I burn out looking to play something else. If I assign a task and they need to use the restroom, that's fine, but once they finish and washed up, they should go back to the original task until it is completed. Why EA can't code this into their game is puzzling.

[Xautos]

my time with TS4 is coming to its conclusion, i'm done with this game after 17,000 hours of play. That's just short of 2 years solid play time over the last 6 years. I've put in my share.

Inzoi is going to have issues no doubt, it's early stage and lots needs doing for it, but i am tired of EA's constant nonsense, overpriced DLC's with with barely anything interesting in them plus the same stuff in each pack. Time for something different.