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Xenon The Noble 13. dec. 2024 kl. 17:22
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Is the word "Christmas" offensive or something?
So far, this "cozy" event has avoided anything related to "Christmas" and not mentioned it once. Is it that offensive?
This "Event" has been nothing but an insult.
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DontTrustDaedra 22. dec. 2024 kl. 18:19 
Deus Vult 🗡️
King_pillow 22. dec. 2024 kl. 18:19 
Oprindeligt skrevet af halfbaked2001:
Apparently cause no one in the U.S.A. says Merry Christmas anymore always Happy Holidays appears a few Snowflakes ruined Christmas.
Happy birthday Jesus, sorry your partys so lame
Cheran 22. dec. 2024 kl. 18:47 
Oprindeligt skrevet af babiana43:
I'm not offended by Christmas. Even when she (And I know everyone knows who I'm talking about) said how dare you say Merry Christmas! blah blah blah. I'll say it!
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!
No, I don't know who you are talking about; can't be someone from this thread because nobody here have said that.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Xenon The Noble:
Merry Christmas!
What are these traditions that are not Christmas that happen in the winter? Can anyone say what they are, who and where they are practiced?
We have the Menorah for Hanukkah, and the Kinara for Kwanzaa. and the "winterfest tree" for winterfest, which is celebrated by whom? No one. No such holiday.
Druids and pagan Norse celebrated the winter Solstice, but those were celebrated with child sacrifice. There are some Aztech holidays where the sacrifice some people... Incans had the Pachamama and child sacrifice, but I have no idea when that was celebrated.
So, what is this holiday that you're all hating me for being hateful about? The event is about these un-named winter holidays, so go ahead and name them and tell us about them. I'd like to learn. Who celebrates these unnamed holidays, where are they celbrated, wand what's the meaning behind them. I'd like to learn. No harm in that, is there?
The three in the game are Winter-fest, a thinly disguised Christmas; Kwanzaa; and Hanukkah. Okay, talk about those, and why they can be named but Christmas cannot. What is offensive about Christmas anyway? Give gifts to children to represent the three wise men, or three astrologers, giving gifts to Jesus. why you guys against that?
And stop hating me for being "hateful" for asking why not mention Christmas. I'm laughing too hard. I'm sure you're not able to see why that is hilarious.
Merry Christmas!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winterfest
So much for this.

Aren't you getting the concept of "Collecting Term"?

Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, Diwali, Bodhi, Donzhi and the Luciafest are all festivities celebrated in winter. None of them celebrates the birth of Jesus, although the Luciafest is about a christian martyr. If you personally want to call winterfest Christmas, go ahead, do it! Nobody gives a crap if you do. Nobody gives a crap if you don't. Nobody is gonna stop you.

BTW: I really don't know where do you read about us being against giving gifts or Christmas in general. Please, point me to the post where some one wrote this.

And finally it's so obvious you haven't played the event or the game in general; otherwise you would know Christmas gets mentioned. If you type "Christmas" in the search bar in Build Buy Mode you will find plenty of items, eight in total, not counting the ones which are plainly about it but aren't cataloged under the term; whereas Kwanzaa and Hanukkah are getting three each.
And why, you ask, are Hanukkah and Kwanzaa mention in their respective items? Because there are way less people knowing about those and might need a bit of explaining whereas Christmas don't need to be spelled out.
You might ave stepped outside approximately the past six weeks (the last three months in my part of the world) and saw Christmas-related items everywhere and nobody needs to be told what it is about. If EA would have banned the word from the game they wouldn't have put it as a search word.
James3157 22. dec. 2024 kl. 18:57 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Xenon The Noble:
Merry Christmas!
What are these traditions that are not Christmas that happen in the winter? Can anyone say what they are, who and where they are practiced?
We have the Menorah for Hanukkah, and the Kinara for Kwanzaa. and the "winterfest tree" for winterfest, which is celebrated by whom? No one. No such holiday.
Druids and pagan Norse celebrated the winter Solstice, but those were celebrated with child sacrifice. There are some Aztech holidays where the sacrifice some people... Incans had the Pachamama and child sacrifice, but I have no idea when that was celebrated.
So, what is this holiday that you're all hating me for being hateful about? The event is about these un-named winter holidays, so go ahead and name them and tell us about them. I'd like to learn. Who celebrates these unnamed holidays, where are they celbrated, and what's the meaning behind them. I'd like to learn. No harm in that, is there? Teach me about YOUR "Cozy" holiday!!
The three in the game are Winter-fest, a thinly disguised Christmas; Kwanzaa; and Hanukkah. Okay, talk about those, and why they can be named but Christmas cannot. What is offensive about Christmas anyway? Give gifts to children to represent the three wise men, or three astrologers, giving gifts to Jesus. why you guys against that?
And stop hating me for being "hateful" for asking why not mention Christmas. I'm laughing too hard. I'm sure you're not able to see why that is hilarious.
Merry Christmas!

I wonder why this discussion about Christmas has still continued on this thread. We already know that the cozy event does mention Christmas from some of the new foods added into the game. Christmas and even its wording is not being "excluded" from this event.

Is arguing the only point of this thread? Is there something that all of us can agree upon or at least most of us agree upon without continuous arguing? The problem with discussions about Christmas is that it is unfortunately highly controversial subject matter where it may be difficult to get everyone to agree upon without offending someone else. There is nothing wrong with this event.
Sidst redigeret af James3157; 22. dec. 2024 kl. 19:06
DontTrustDaedra 22. dec. 2024 kl. 19:05 
Oprindeligt skrevet af James3157:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Xenon The Noble:
Merry Christmas!
What are these traditions that are not Christmas that happen in the winter? Can anyone say what they are, who and where they are practiced?
We have the Menorah for Hanukkah, and the Kinara for Kwanzaa. and the "winterfest tree" for winterfest, which is celebrated by whom? No one. No such holiday.
Druids and pagan Norse celebrated the winter Solstice, but those were celebrated with child sacrifice. There are some Aztech holidays where the sacrifice some people... Incans had the Pachamama and child sacrifice, but I have no idea when that was celebrated.
So, what is this holiday that you're all hating me for being hateful about? The event is about these un-named winter holidays, so go ahead and name them and tell us about them. I'd like to learn. Who celebrates these unnamed holidays, where are they celbrated, and what's the meaning behind them. I'd like to learn. No harm in that, is there? Teach me about YOUR "Cozy" holiday!!
The three in the game are Winter-fest, a thinly disguised Christmas; Kwanzaa; and Hanukkah. Okay, talk about those, and why they can be named but Christmas cannot. What is offensive about Christmas anyway? Give gifts to children to represent the three wise men, or three astrologers, giving gifts to Jesus. why you guys against that?
And stop hating me for being "hateful" for asking why not mention Christmas. I'm laughing too hard. I'm sure you're not able to see why that is hilarious.
Merry Christmas!

I wonder why this discussion about Christmas has still continued on this thread. We already know that the cozy event does mention Christmas from some of the new foods added into the game. Christmas and even its wording is not being "excluded" from this event. Is arguing the only point of this thread? Is there something that all of us can agree upon or at least most of us agree upon without continuous arguing?

The real issue with the world inst about people its about globalist agenda which is trying to break the west by breaking the culture of Europe so they can swoop in and "Save" us all by turning us into obedient drones. We should be fighting them not each other.
James3157 22. dec. 2024 kl. 19:14 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Delaren:
The real issue with the world inst about people its about globalist agenda which is trying to break the west by breaking the culture of Europe so they can swoop in and "Save" us all by turning us into obedient drones. We should be fighting them not each other.

It would be nice if we could discuss about Christmas without mentioning politics or at least limit the discussion about politics on Steam. Both the left and right wing parties celebrate Christmas in some way at least in many American countries, at least some of the Pacific islands, Australia, South Africa and some other African countries, and most of Europe. Whether Christmas is more about Jesus or Santa Clause I think is more of a personal matter instead of something that should be debated on Steam which is a public forum.
Sidst redigeret af James3157; 22. dec. 2024 kl. 19:22
Cheran 22. dec. 2024 kl. 19:25 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Delaren:
The real issue with the world inst about people its about globalist agenda which is trying to break the west by breaking the culture of Europe so they can swoop in and "Save" us all by turning us into obedient drones. We should be fighting them not each other.

"globalist agenda" is a dog whistle word for jews and therefore a conspiracy theory. Those are the ones you mean when you say "they", aren't you? Congratulations, it took 126 posts until finally somebody meantioned a CT!

And I really don't know which Europe you mean, in my country you can mentioned Christmas, even saying "Merry Christmas" (a funny aside: In a lot of european languages the word for Christmas doesn't even include the words christ or mass) and nobody gets upset about it or threatens you.
Sidst redigeret af Cheran; 22. dec. 2024 kl. 19:26
Octavus 22. dec. 2024 kl. 22:03 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Cheran:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Delaren:
The real issue with the world inst about people its about globalist agenda which is trying to break the west by breaking the culture of Europe so they can swoop in and "Save" us all by turning us into obedient drones. We should be fighting them not each other.

"globalist agenda" is a dog whistle word for jews and therefore a conspiracy theory. Those are the ones you mean when you say "they", aren't you? Congratulations, it took 126 posts until finally somebody meantioned a CT!

And I really don't know which Europe you mean, in my country you can mentioned Christmas, even saying "Merry Christmas" (a funny aside: In a lot of european languages the word for Christmas doesn't even include the words christ or mass) and nobody gets upset about it or threatens you.

Is something lost in translation here or do you really think globalization is a conspiracy theory?
DontTrustDaedra 22. dec. 2024 kl. 22:35 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Cheran:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Delaren:
The real issue with the world inst about people its about globalist agenda which is trying to break the west by breaking the culture of Europe so they can swoop in and "Save" us all by turning us into obedient drones. We should be fighting them not each other.

"globalist agenda" is a dog whistle word for jews and therefore a conspiracy theory. Those are the ones you mean when you say "they", aren't you? Congratulations, it took 126 posts until finally somebody meantioned a CT!

And I really don't know which Europe you mean, in my country you can mentioned Christmas, even saying "Merry Christmas" (a funny aside: In a lot of european languages the word for Christmas doesn't even include the words christ or mass) and nobody gets upset about it or threatens you.

And I just lost all respect for you, whistle word, what a joke.
Cheran 23. dec. 2024 kl. 6:15 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Octavus:
Is something lost in translation here or do you really think globalization is a conspiracy theory?
Did you read what I was replying to? Globalization doesn't have anything to do with, and I'm quoting, "trying to break the west by breaking the culture of Europe so they can swoop in and "Save" us all". That is a CT.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Delaren:
And I just lost all respect for you, whistle word, what a joke.

And I lost it long ago after you just insulted everybody without informing yourself beforehand.
Octavus 23. dec. 2024 kl. 6:36 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Cheran:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Octavus:
Is something lost in translation here or do you really think globalization is a conspiracy theory?
Did you read what I was replying to? Globalization doesn't have anything to do with, and I'm quoting, "trying to break the west by breaking the culture of Europe so they can swoop in and "Save" us all". That is a CT.

Ah, well, it really isn't but I'm not going to argue that here. Merry Christmas.
Sidst redigeret af Octavus; 23. dec. 2024 kl. 6:36
Xenon The Noble 23. dec. 2024 kl. 15:00 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Cheran:
Oprindeligt skrevet af babiana43:
I'm not offended by Christmas. Even when she (And I know everyone knows who I'm talking about) said how dare you say Merry Christmas! blah blah blah. I'll say it!
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!
No, I don't know who you are talking about; can't be someone from this thread because nobody here have said that.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Xenon The Noble:
Merry Christmas!
What are these traditions that are not Christmas that happen in the winter? Can anyone say what they are, who and where they are practiced?
We have the Menorah for Hanukkah, and the Kinara for Kwanzaa. and the "winterfest tree" for winterfest, which is celebrated by whom? No one. No such holiday.
Druids and pagan Norse celebrated the winter Solstice, but those were celebrated with child sacrifice. There are some Aztech holidays where the sacrifice some people... Incans had the Pachamama and child sacrifice, but I have no idea when that was celebrated.
So, what is this holiday that you're all hating me for being hateful about? The event is about these un-named winter holidays, so go ahead and name them and tell us about them. I'd like to learn. Who celebrates these unnamed holidays, where are they celbrated, wand what's the meaning behind them. I'd like to learn. No harm in that, is there?
The three in the game are Winter-fest, a thinly disguised Christmas; Kwanzaa; and Hanukkah. Okay, talk about those, and why they can be named but Christmas cannot. What is offensive about Christmas anyway? Give gifts to children to represent the three wise men, or three astrologers, giving gifts to Jesus. why you guys against that?
And stop hating me for being "hateful" for asking why not mention Christmas. I'm laughing too hard. I'm sure you're not able to see why that is hilarious.
Merry Christmas!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winterfest
So much for this.

Aren't you getting the concept of "Collecting Term"?

Kwanzaa, Hanukkah, Diwali, Bodhi, Donzhi and the Luciafest are all festivities celebrated in winter. None of them celebrates the birth of Jesus, although the Luciafest is about a christian martyr. If you personally want to call winterfest Christmas, go ahead, do it! Nobody gives a crap if you do. Nobody gives a crap if you don't. Nobody is gonna stop you.

BTW: I really don't know where do you read about us being against giving gifts or Christmas in general. Please, point me to the post where some one wrote this.

And finally it's so obvious you haven't played the event or the game in general; otherwise you would know Christmas gets mentioned. If you type "Christmas" in the search bar in Build Buy Mode you will find plenty of items, eight in total, not counting the ones which are plainly about it but aren't cataloged under the term; whereas Kwanzaa and Hanukkah are getting three each.
And why, you ask, are Hanukkah and Kwanzaa mention in their respective items? Because there are way less people knowing about those and might need a bit of explaining whereas Christmas don't need to be spelled out.
You might ave stepped outside approximately the past six weeks (the last three months in my part of the world) and saw Christmas-related items everywhere and nobody needs to be told what it is about. If EA would have banned the word from the game they wouldn't have put it as a search word.
Well, maybe there needs to be a new DLC, the straw horse pack. Can't refute my argument, make up a new one that you can and argue against that.
So the reason to exclude Christmas and include others is that... everyone knows about Christmas? Is that your argument? "Because there are way less people knowing about those and might need a bit of explaining whereas Christmas don't need to be spelled out."
Humm.. Okay, where is Hanukkah and Kwanzaa mentioned in this event? They are mentioned only by having items you can include in defining your own holiday.
And since very few here know squat about Christmas, it would benefit the education of all if it was explained.
Yes, I get that the far left has "Winterfest", celebrated by almost no one. And Christmas is in the game because you can use it as a search word?
Cheran 23. dec. 2024 kl. 15:39 
Your statement is the word Christmas is offensive because the event doesn't mentioned it. Your are wrong, it gets mentioned. Case closed. Everything else is you being a nuisance and laughably so.
Captain Giggity 23. dec. 2024 kl. 16:29 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Xenon The Noble:
So far, this "cozy" event has avoided anything related to "Christmas" and not mentioned it once. Is it that offensive?
This "Event" has been nothing but an insult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JABze2kuVLU
James3157 23. dec. 2024 kl. 19:48 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ezeris:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Xenon The Noble:
So far, this "cozy" event has avoided anything related to "Christmas" and not mentioned it once. Is it that offensive?
This "Event" has been nothing but an insult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JABze2kuVLU

What does Jack Black acting as the devil pretending to be Santa Clause in this recent movie have anything to do with The Sims 4? EA and Hollywood are different industries where EA overall has more to do with gaming and Hollywood overall has more to do with movies, streaming, theater (Broadway and cinemas), magazines, and tv shows.
Sidst redigeret af James3157; 23. dec. 2024 kl. 19:59
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