Wohoo and romantic interest

[Hedning]

I haven't played in a while and now I am told by the game that people have specific romantic and wohoo interest. Is this going to mess up my relationships or is it simply a list of who they have done it with up until now? Eg if it says male is my female locked out or will it be updated as I romance them with a female?

[iancw]

Unless you use CAS to specify romantic and sexual interest for your created Sims it will work as it always has done.

You will find NPC have become more- let's say choosy. If you attempt to flirt with some NPC they will outright say you are not what they are interested in.

[Sovereign Dark]

As iancw has stated, romantic relationships which had already been established will be sustained. Although, you may want to have a look in CAS with cheats on, fulleditmode to make any desired changes to your couple's orientations.

[Hedning]

Originally posted by Sovereign Dark:

As iancw has stated, romantic relationships which had already been established will be sustained. Although, you may want to have a look in CAS with cheats on, fulleditmode to make any desired changes to your couple's orientations.

I used this to check and one partner to my male had:
romantic: women
exploring: yes
wohoo: both
In live mode she's getting "awkward" and "tense" when I do romance actions on her, but the romantic meter still seems to be able to be increased and then the info about her interest on her profile went away. I guess this is the "exploring" modifier? I checked 4 other sims and all seem to have this modifier. Is this a temporary thing or are they "exploring" forever?

Originally posted by iancw:

Unless you use CAS to specify romantic and sexual interest for your created Sims it will work as it always has done.

Does this mean all sims have exploring as default and forever, whether created by me or the game, and I have to turn it off in cas to restrict them? I guess that's fine then, but I still don't like that I'm getting "awkward" and "tense" reactions, so it's not completely like it used to be.

Originally posted by iancw:

You will find NPC have become more- let's say choosy.

Why would they do this? Let the player decide. Did players request this? How does that even make sense? So you wan't to romance an npc but you want it to reject you?

[Taich]

Originally posted by Hedning:

Originally posted by Sovereign Dark:

As iancw has stated, romantic relationships which had already been established will be sustained. Although, you may want to have a look in CAS with cheats on, fulleditmode to make any desired changes to your couple's orientations.

I used this to check and one partner to my male had:
romantic: women
exploring: yes
wohoo: both
In live mode she's getting "awkward" and "tense" when I do romance actions on her, but the romantic meter still seems to be able to be increased and then the info about her interest on her profile went away. I guess this is the "exploring" modifier? I checked 4 other sims and all seem to have this modifier. Is this a temporary thing or are they "exploring" forever?

Originally posted by iancw:

Unless you use CAS to specify romantic and sexual interest for your created Sims it will work as it always has done.

Does this mean all sims have exploring as default and forever, whether created by me or the game, and I have to turn it off in cas to restrict them? I guess that's fine then, but I still don't like that I'm getting "awkward" and "tense" reactions, so it's not completely like it used to be.

Originally posted by iancw:

You will find NPC have become more- let's say choosy.

Why would they do this? Let the player decide. Did players request this? How does that even make sense? So you wan't to romance an npc but you want it to reject you?

how does it makes sense? well, let me tell you... its supposed to be a "life sim". you cant make everyone fall in love with you...

[Sovereign Dark]

Originally posted by Hedning:

I used this to check and one partner to my male had:
romantic: women
exploring: yes
wohoo: both
In live mode she's getting "awkward" and "tense" when I do romance actions on her, but the romantic meter still seems to be able to be increased and then the info about her interest on her profile went away. I guess this is the "exploring" modifier? I checked 4 other sims and all seem to have this modifier. Is this a temporary thing or are they "exploring" forever?

Yeah, if you have a female sim romancing with a male sim but CAS tells you she's romantically interested in women, you'll have to edit her preferences = cheats on, then cas.fulleditmode
She's tense whilst romantically interacting with your male because the game's default has, for whatever reason, set her romantic attraction to women, not men.
These settings have been a nuisance for many a player. You have to look at them ever since they'd come about. It may be necessary to change the sims you play to fit their respective romantic relationships or potentially, others you'd like to form.

If your female is exclusively with a male partner, you may want to change her as;
Romantic: Male (or both if not exclusive to male)
Exploring: No
Woohoo: Male (or both if not exclusive to male)

[Hedning]

Originally posted by Taich:

how does it makes sense? well, let me tell you... its supposed to be a "life sim". you cant make everyone fall in love with you...

If you don't want two sims to be partners you can just choose to not use the romance actions. Making things hard or challenging can be fun in a game, but not impossible. If you want the game to remove player choice because of "realism" then you want racism and hate crime too? Considering its a "life sim"? Surely you would want your black character to have a risk of getting nowhere in a career because the boss is racist?

Originally posted by Sovereign Dark:

If your female is exclusively with a male partner, you may want to change her as;
Romantic: Male (or both if not exclusive to male)
Exploring: No
Woohoo: Male (or both if not exclusive to male)

Why would I turn off exploring? It's the only thing saving this update.

[JANUS]

Originally posted by Hedning:

Originally posted by Taich:

how does it makes sense? well, let me tell you... its supposed to be a "life sim". you cant make everyone fall in love with you...

If you don't want two sims to be partners you can just choose to not use the romance actions. Making things hard or challenging can be fun in a game, but not impossible. If you want the game to remove player choice because of "realism" then you want racism and hate crime too? Considering its a "life sim"? Surely you would want your black character to have a risk of getting nowhere in a career because the boss is racist?

Originally posted by Sovereign Dark:

If your female is exclusively with a male partner, you may want to change her as;
Romantic: Male (or both if not exclusive to male)
Exploring: No
Woohoo: Male (or both if not exclusive to male)

Why would I turn off exploring? It's the only thing saving this update.

The preferences affect nosim except some pre-made sims who are one way or the other.

Mods that affect preferences like WW WILL affect whether or not randomly generated townies are customized.

Unless I'm mistaken and I could be mistaken, in an unmodded game, all previously existing and pre-made sims retain their preference settings which is either custom for some new pre-made sims or the default pansexual/exploring setting LIKE SIMS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN for everysim else including newly generated townies.

Don't get hung up on the "life sim" argument.

The game works as it always had, except now you can ACTUALLY make your sim heterosexual or homosexual or bisexual/pansexual or asexual or aromantic. Player choice. No unwanted romantic relationships if you don't want them.

It still amazes me that the TS4 community lost and still loses their !@#$ over this, but bigots gonna be bigots whether it's rational or not.

[Hedning]

Originally posted by JANUS:

Unless I'm mistaken and I could be mistaken, in an unmodded game, all previously existing and pre-made sims retain their preference settings which is either custom for some new pre-made sims or the default pansexual/exploring setting LIKE SIMS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN for everysim else including newly generated townies.

Yes, everyone seem to have "exploring: yes", but they don't have default pansexual, as I already mentioned one had women and one had neither, though it could be changed without cas thanks to the exploring tag.

Originally posted by JANUS:

The game works as it always had, except now you can ACTUALLY make your sim heterosexual or homosexual or bisexual/pansexual or asexual or aromantic. Player choice. No unwanted romantic relationships if you don't want them.

"unwanted"? If you don't want it just don't select that action?
The only way something unwanted could happen is with autonomy. If you don't want "unwanted" actions turn off autonomy, but even with autonomy on sims don't really do romantic things on their own unless you already made them a couple. Maybe that's just how I play the game but no one has ever made their own relationship without me orchestrating it. Seems like you are inventing a problem that never existed.

Originally posted by JANUS:

It still amazes me that the TS4 community lost and still loses their !@#$ over this, but bigots gonna be bigots whether it's rational or not.

What have I said that warrants this accusation? Is there any bigoted movement that demands everyone be pansexual? I have never heard of this.

[JANUS]

Originally posted by Hedning:

Originally posted by JANUS:

The game works as it always had, except now you can ACTUALLY make your sim heterosexual or homosexual or bisexual/pansexual or asexual or aromantic. Player choice. No unwanted romantic relationships if you don't want them.

"unwanted"? If you don't want it just don't select that action?
The only way something unwanted could happen is with autonomy. If you don't want "unwanted" actions turn off autonomy, but even with autonomy on sims don't really do romantic things on their own unless you already made them a couple. Maybe that's just how I play the game but no one has ever made their own relationship without me orchestrating it. Seems like you are inventing a problem that never existed.

Actually, unwanted relationships can happen due to bugs the EAxis team introduces. Were you not around when HSY dropped and the Social Bunny app was causing everysim to gain romantic relationship with everysim? I've seen reports of sibling sims gaining romantic bits with simmers claiming no mods or mod options to allow such things happening are installed or enabled. !@#$ happens. When it's bugs, preference and romance settings potentially go out the window.

Originally posted by Hedning:

Originally posted by JANUS:

It still amazes me that the TS4 community lost and still loses their !@#$ over this, but bigots gonna be bigots whether it's rational or not.

What have I said that warrants this accusation? Is there any bigoted movement that demands everyone be pansexual? I have never heard of this.

That was a "general" comment not directed at you specifically.

To answer the question though, no, there isn't a bigoted movement that demands everyone be pansexual. Sims have simply always been "fluid" (is the correct term) because anysim could always romance anysim, and that's just how this franchise has always been.

From the wiki and concerning The Sims 2: https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Gender_preference#Changing_gender_preference

Each Sim who is a teen or older can develop a gender preference that is defined by the averaged total of all their romantic interactions with other Sims. For instance, if the majority of a Sim's romantic interactions have been with females, that Sim will have a preference for females, and vice versa, if the majority of the Sim's romantic interactions have been with males. Gender preference is fluid; a Sim's gender preference scores gradually change as they engage in romantic interactions with other Sims. Enough interactions can change a Sim's preference for a gender from negative to positive, or vice versa; e.g., a female Sim with a preference towards females who repeatedly has romantic interactions with male Sims may develop a preference for males. It is possible to influence the gender preference of townies and uncontrolled Sims by performing minor flirt interactions such as checking them out or whistling at them.

So when "those bigoted people" complain about pronouns and preferences, it just shows that they have no real knowledge of this game or the franchise.

They are also incapable of understanding that the "pronouns, preference and romance" update benefited them equally by allowing them to create truly heterosexual sims.

[Hedning]

Originally posted by JANUS:

When it's bugs, preference and romance settings potentially go out the window.

So why even bring bugs up. This wasn't an update to fix bugs or had anything to do with bugs.

Originally posted by JANUS:

That was a "general" comment not directed at you specifically.

To answer the question though, no, there isn't a bigoted movement that demands everyone be pansexual.

It is directed at me when it's posted in reply to me in my topic.

Originally posted by JANUS:

They are also incapable of understanding that the "pronouns, preference and romance" update benefited them equally by allowing them to create truly heterosexual sims.

You don't have to talk about other people and what they may or may not think. I don't see how this update benefits anyone though as making any type of preference was already possible and has been forever. This is strictly a limitation. Like if dollhouse dolls came with a backstory and when you play that two of your dolls are married your dad comes in and says that is not allowed according to their backstory.