Disable Woke Nonsense Possible??

[Notelien]

I'm tired of seeing pronouns, and pretty fed up with LGBTQ+. At 1st I was fine with the community. Being Gay, Bi, or Lesbian, hell even if a person wanted to dress different, was all fine. But now whiny sensitive things/its everywhere with these pronouns. O don't get me started on schools teaching kids in elementary to become trans.

[James3157]

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Then of course, there's Morgyn Ember to add to the list (sadly) if one owns Realm of Magic. Morgyn was given pronouns in a more recent update. Although if you don't play with spellcasters, you may rarely see this sim. (Morgyn autonomously proposed to my legacy witch and is since the only Maxis pre-made I've ever played. I'm obviously partial. But my legacy game's Morgyn doesn't have the pronouns.)

That seems strange to me. Agnes Crumplebottom as an NPC sim (although I did clone her at least once from my level 10 male Scientist with a cloning machine so that way her clone could have a Science baby with him despite the wide age gap between them) does not want to get married and makes sense since she was originally designed to be NPC instead of a playable character. If I wanted to play with Morgyn Ember just like the principal of Copperdale (Molly Prescott's mother), Agatha Crumplebottom, and/or Agnes Crumplebottom I would have them cloned instead from cloning machine (if you own Get To Work) since they are supposed to be based on NPC sims. It might however be tempting to age down an Agnes/Agatha Crumplebottom clone.

[iancw]

Just so we are all on the same page, several people are unhappy
(including someone who doesn't play the game) that their customisable dolls in a virtual dollhouse have the option of they/them pronouns, and occasionally a NPC collection of pixels- who can be removed from the game entirely- propositions them?

Cool, cool.

[Big Andy]

Don't play LGBT characters and you wont see them. The sexuality of your sims still strongly influences the sexuality of NPC sims. And if you are seeing pronouns you don't like, its because you decided your sims were they/them or attack/helicopter.

And this game has been woke since Sims 1. It was a lesbian kiss that got the game greenlit.

[James3157]

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And this game has been woke since Sims 1. It was a lesbian kiss that got the game greenlit.

The Sims series is more complicated than that. Yes, the LGB relationships were probably allowed even from The SIms (2000) as an option, but all households I think from The SIms and even from all of its dlc only had straight characters originally. Originally The SIms, Sims 2, and The SIms 3 were inclusive towards LGB, but not as much as The SIms 4 which also includes the T at the end as well contrary to the first three Sims games where trans sims only existed if playing pretend.

[Black_Master]

Пидорасия в игре есть, не то чтобы много, но время от времени то тут то там будешь на неё натыкаться.

[Xautos]

3 days since posting and the OP not only hasn't returned but has gotten multiple awards, it has all the classic marks of a troll thread.

[James3157]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Xautos:

3 days since posting and the OP not only hasn't returned but has gotten multiple awards, it has all the classic marks of a troll thread.

Possibly. Why would Notelien want to comment knowing that it might lead to arguments and debating? The issue this player seems to be having is not towards LGB, but mainly towards the TQ+ at the end and pronouns, but the TQ+ at the end contrary to pronouns is not new to The Sims 4. It is worth pointing out however that sexual orientation part being added later could potentially add more gameplay for TQIA+ community than before it was added as well despite the fact it also allows the option at the same time for making sims preferably straight instead of bisexual. Before sexual orientation was added you could still make a choice to make your sims straight, but there was still a chance that a random sim of the same gender might try to ask out on a date/autonomously flirt even before sexual orientation was added later. And so my point is that I do not necessarily think that sexual orientation being added to The SIms 4 is entirely a bad thing despite its controversy, but pronouns seem to be more controversial than sexual orientation since it allows the option for non binary sims even though very few sims by default are they/them besides some non binary sims being shared from the gallery.

[DP Bowie]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Xautos:

3 days since posting and the OP not only hasn't returned but has gotten multiple awards, it has all the classic marks of a troll thread.

OP is national treasure.

[Xautos]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από James3157:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Xautos:

3 days since posting and the OP not only hasn't returned but has gotten multiple awards, it has all the classic marks of a troll thread.

Possibly. Why would Notelien want to comment knowing that it might lead to arguments and debating?

award farming by using controversy, i mean equal rights is always going to attract a lot of attention, it's very easy to get that ball rolling. it's looking more and more likely this is the case.

[Abyssian]

So why y'all still answer in here? Urge to say something is strong, huh? Just let it die.

[Sovereign Dark]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από James3157:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Sovereign Dark:

Then of course, there's Morgyn Ember to add to the list (sadly) if one owns Realm of Magic. Morgyn was given pronouns in a more recent update. Although if you don't play with spellcasters, you may rarely see this sim. (Morgyn autonomously proposed to my legacy witch and is since the only Maxis pre-made I've ever played. I'm obviously partial. But my legacy game's Morgyn doesn't have the pronouns.)

That seems strange to me. Agnes Crumplebottom as an NPC sim (although I did clone her at least once from my level 10 male Scientist with a cloning machine so that way her clone could have a Science baby with him despite the wide age gap between them) does not want to get married and makes sense since she was originally designed to be NPC instead of a playable character. If I wanted to play with Morgyn Ember just like the principal of Copperdale (Molly Prescott's mother), Agatha Crumplebottom, and/or Agnes Crumplebottom I would have them cloned instead from cloning machine (if you own Get To Work) since they are supposed to be based on NPC sims. It might however be tempting to age down an Agnes/Agatha Crumplebottom clone.

I also thought it was strange at first. When Morgyn proposed to my spellcaster, I'd quit the game without saving because I didn't want to lose our Sage of Untamed. When I loaded up again, the proposals just persisted. (I'm too fond of Morgyn. How could I refuse?)

If you're playing a vanilla game, genitalia aren't programmed into it. No sim has them. But if you install Wicked Whims, the mod, itself sets Morgyn as having no male bits.
When I'd started my legacy, Maxis had gone years without identifying Morgyn as anything apart from having a preference for feminine clothing, not standing to use the toilet (I used to know one rl hetero male who preferred this) and not being able to impregnate others. These may 'possibly' do, but they don't 'absolutely' identify Morgyn Ember as trans if Maxis wasn't willing to make that clear. Maxis still hasn't made trans clear. They've just recently given Morgyn non-binary pronouns, and non-binary is not equal to trans. A mod and the sims community decided trans was absolute, regardless that Morgyn Ember initially presents as any common male sim when entering the Magic Realm HQ. Why? And where's confirmation on trans from Maxis? I'm loathed to presume.

Anyway, since Morgyn wouldn't quit on my female legacy mage, I'd reversed the impregnate others option. It's been quite a while since I've been bothered to use WW (because it kept insisting all my T/YA, born-in females were part Elder, which messes up attractions) but I'd also 're-equipped' the former sage at last installation. In my legacy game, (immortal) Morgyn's clothing and toilet preferences remain as ever were.

Edit: Also, keep in mind this was when every sim was racing madly to your sims to be their BFFs. xD I started this on Growing Together release.

[James3157]

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I also thought it was strange at first. When Morgyn proposed to my spellcaster, I'd quit the game without saving because I didn't want to lose our Sage of Untamed. When I loaded up again, the proposals just persisted. (I'm too fond of Morgyn. How could I refuse?)

If you're playing a vanilla game, genitalia aren't programmed into it. No sim has them. But if you install Wicked Whims, the mod, itself sets Morgyn as having no male bits.
When I'd started my legacy, Maxis had gone years without identifying Morgyn as anything apart from having a preference for feminine clothing, not standing to use the toilet (I used to know one rl hetero male who preferred this) and not being able to impregnate others. These may 'possibly' do, but they don't 'absolutely' identify Morgyn Ember as trans if Maxis wasn't willing to make that clear. Maxis still hasn't made trans clear. They've just recently given Morgyn non-binary pronouns, and non-binary is not equal to trans. A mod and the sims community decided trans was absolute, regardless that Morgyn Ember initially presents as any common male sim when entering the Magic Realm HQ. Why? And where's confirmation on trans from Maxis? I'm loathed to presume.

Anyway, since Morgyn wouldn't quit on my female legacy mage, I'd reversed the impregnate others option. It's been quite a while since I've been bothered to use WW (because it kept insisting all my T/YA, born-in females were part Elder, which messes up attractions) but I'd also 're-equipped' the former sage at last installation. In my legacy game, (immortal) Morgyn's clothing and toilet preferences remain as ever were.

Edit: Also, keep in mind this was when every sim was racing madly to your sims to be their BFFs. xD I started this on Growing Together release.

Worth mentioning that any clone contrary to the original does not have to be NPC. Cloning Machine however does require Get to Work expansion pack. Maybe you should have Morgyn cloned instead. That way your sim can get married to Morgyn clone, but always say no Morgyn's proposal since Morgyn is supposed to be NPC. Also, I recently checked Morgyn, but I think that Morgyn might actually be a transvestite instead of transgender despite the fact that Morgyn sometimes wears masculine clothing.

[DP Bowie]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από James3157:

That seems strange to me. Agnes Crumplebottom as an NPC sim (although I did clone her at least once from my level 10 male Scientist with a cloning machine so that way her clone could have a Science baby with him despite the wide age gap between them) does not want to get married and makes sense since she was originally designed to be NPC instead of a playable character. If I wanted to play with Morgyn Ember just like the principal of Copperdale (Molly Prescott's mother), Agatha Crumplebottom, and/or Agnes Crumplebottom I would have them cloned instead from cloning machine (if you own Get To Work) since they are supposed to be based on NPC sims. It might however be tempting to age down an Agnes/Agatha Crumplebottom clone.

I also thought it was strange at first. When Morgyn proposed to my spellcaster, I'd quit the game without saving because I didn't want to lose our Sage of Untamed. When I loaded up again, the proposals just persisted. (I'm too fond of Morgyn. How could I refuse?)

If you're playing a vanilla game, genitalia aren't programmed into it. No sim has them. But if you install Wicked Whims, the mod, itself sets Morgyn as having no male bits.
When I'd started my legacy, Maxis had gone years without identifying Morgyn as anything apart from having a preference for feminine clothing, not standing to use the toilet (I used to know one rl hetero male who preferred this) and not being able to impregnate others. These may 'possibly' do, but they don't 'absolutely' identify Morgyn Ember as trans if Maxis wasn't willing to make that clear. Maxis still hasn't made trans clear. They've just recently given Morgyn non-binary pronouns, and non-binary is not equal to trans. A mod and the sims community decided trans was absolute, regardless that Morgyn Ember initially presents as any common male sim when entering the Magic Realm HQ. Why? And where's confirmation on trans from Maxis? I'm loathed to presume.

Anyway, since Morgyn wouldn't quit on my female legacy mage, I'd reversed the impregnate others option. It's been quite a while since I've been bothered to use WW (because it kept insisting all my T/YA, born-in females were part Elder, which messes up attractions) but I'd also 're-equipped' the former sage at last installation. In my legacy game, (immortal) Morgyn's clothing and toilet preferences remain as ever were.

Edit: Also, keep in mind this was when every sim was racing madly to your sims to be their BFFs. xD I started this on Growing Together release.

by using CAS.fulledit cheat, I'm sure we can make Morgyn into male and having "male-apparatus". (with installed WW)

[FauxFurry]

Other than changing the game's language settings as was suggested, you could manually remove anything that smacks of culture war nonsense and replace it with modded content.

You'll have to check eth.limo for the mod that removes certain items from CAS, though. I doubt that linking to that mod site will be tolerated here.

One can not simply mod out Preferred Pronouns. That will take just letting it default to male and female.

[Geocentric]

This is what they promote, look at the DBD broadcasts lol they worry about T-men streaming than they worry about people running script mods on their game. It's utterly ridiculous and sad...