Lack of descriptive and important Holidays.

[galaxyleggings]

Have you ever noticed the avoidance the Sims team has when it comes to proper names for Holidays, and a complete lack of important preset Holidays? I know that it may not be intended this way but completely forgetting to add revolutionary Holidays such as, but not limited to, The 4th of July, Veterans day, and Independence day, seems less woke and progressive and more of an attack on the culture it so clearly strives to take inspiration from. Veterans day is just as important, if not MORE important then "Winterfest" aka Christmas, so I really shouldn't need to go through and personally add it to my calendar each time I create a new save. How are you going to have "depth" and acceptance towards others thoughts and feelings whilst being an American-based and originated game and not include Veterans day or any of the previously mentioned holidays?

[galaxyleggings]

Publicado originalmente por James3157:

Do people in Japan which is where Anime originated from and not the United States (although, China apparently makes Anime as well, but their Anime is less well known than Anime made from Japan) celebrate Veteran's Day, 4th of July, and Memorial Day? I would say no and it is not only just Japan that does not celebrate those holidays, but everywhere else in the world as well, except for the United States. Even Thanksgiving being included on The Sims 4 (which is the only major holiday that is almost exclusive to the United States) is a bit of a stretch since it is only celebrated from the United States and Canada. What about Tomarang (Thailand), Mt. Komorebi (Japan), Tartosa (probably Italy), Selvadorada (vacation world), Windenburg (northern part of Germany?), or Britechester (United Kingdom) worlds that are obviously not based on United States locations?

Even the Batuu vacation world may not be exclusive to the United States only since there are a few other Disney Parks outside of the United States as well that probably have stuff related to Star Wars. EA is obviously trying to be inclusive towards other countries and cultures and not only just towards the United States. Also, those three holidays at least in my personal opinion are only minor holidays instead of major holidays even for the United States. As for Winterfest not being called Christmas it is obviously because some countries do not celebrate Christmas or at least not the same way that Christians do.

Regardless of whatever bare minimum culturally diverse sh*t they add, it still does not make any sense whatsoever to not add proper depth. It looks like a half-made, underdeveloped game and considering the amount of cash you need to spend to even get proper effing weather, it shouldn’t look like that. They add one world with minimally accurate cultural representation and some clothes and thats it for South Asia, and Japan, and any other place other then America. And then when you look at Americas content, the literal centre of the game, its half-assed too. Stop making up stuff for a greedy, politically corrupt, and stupid company.

[galaxyleggings]

Publicado originalmente por DP Bowie:

The Sims 4 is made for worldwide audience with more world-wide features.

If you seek Simulator game with "more exclusively to United States theme", maybe you should try and play The Sims 2 or 3.

This is not an “I love America” forum this is a complaint on game detail.

[galaxyleggings]

Publicado originalmente por Sovereign Dark:

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

Also, although I do not believe Jewish people are correct in their religion, why is "Winterfest" the base and not Hanukkah? Why is there a Christmas at all when there are religions who don't celebrate it. This is the issue with the left, you strive for equality for all without thinking of the FULL circle and not just the one you chose to stand in the center of.

No...
The Sims 'Winterfest' isn't Christmas nor Christian at all. There's no Jesus. Giving presents isn't an ancient Christian tradition but a tradition based off Roman Pagans in celebration of Saturnalia (possibly hand offs of Greek and Egyptian traditions). Father Winter is based on Old Man Winter from the ancient Greek god as well as climate deities of other world Mythologies. Those lovely lit Yuletide evergreens? Pagan!..symbolic of life sustained throughout barren days.
There's eff all to do with Christ in TS4's Winterfest holiday. Christians didn't even take up such traditions until the bloody 19th century. I'm not religious but this much is evident in biblical history, the church's own history. Do you not know and comprehend you're own religion? If not for Roman conversion and the influence of the Roman Church on all of Europe, you wouldn't have it..or you'd have a different one.

Publicado originalmente por Tobi:

sims 4 has been woke forever since they added muslim clothing but said they weren't going to add traditional jewish clothing or cross necklaces for Christians since they religions but hang on isn't islam a religion and the clothing you added are said to be worn in the quran.
yeah i dont get woke people like im not upset about it i just dont get woke people

Sensible...
The Muslim CAS content is arguably the most religious content added into TS4. These garments were and are worn strictly for religious purposes. This is evident in the Quran. Had enough players of other religions saw this cherry-pick as an affront to their own beliefs, perhaps EAxis might've endured serious outrage from 'FOMO' religious zealots. Guess what? That didn't happen.

Sovereign Dark, I know youd like to convince yourself that they were looking into ancient greek whatever youre talking about, but they definitely were not. You can excuse yourself now since you clearly have just lost your sense of critical thinking.

[DP Bowie]

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

This is not an “I love America” forum this is a complaint on game detail.

Yes, you have rights to complain.
I just tried to give you an insight.

beside, we're also granted some freedom to create another holidays. For examples you also can create Halloween Day and Easter Day despite there weren't premade major holiday by Maxis.
If you're asking "Why they didn't create Halloween, Easter, and another AMERICANIZED holidays as premade holidays" etc, my answer is : "probably the devs team are just too lazy.."

[Xautos]

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

Publicado originalmente por DP Bowie:

The Sims 4 is made for worldwide audience with more world-wide features.

If you seek Simulator game with "more exclusively to United States theme", maybe you should try and play The Sims 2 or 3.

This is not an “I love America” forum this is a complaint on game detail.

oh but it is and you been caught out with the rug pulled from under you.
you are espoutign right wing values of nationalism and pride in american culture and values specifically.

if this really wasn't an "i love america" thread, then there is a simple answer, learn to be more open of other values and cultures around the world and appreciate them. put your american holidays and what not aside and try out others from around the world and when you are done you can get back to your american holidays and what not and have more of an idea what you truly want.

[Sovereign Dark]

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

Sovereign Dark, I know youd like to convince yourself that they were looking into ancient greek whatever youre talking about, but they definitely were not. You can excuse yourself now since you clearly have just lost your sense of critical thinking.

No, I won't excuse myself from a public forum. You may excuse yourself if you're bothered.

And no..Maxis makes nothing clear about your religion. Christmas is a Christian holiday. Right?..'Jesus is the reason' and all that bollx. Modern Pagans still practise their old traditions today, wonder why Christians had ever taken them on and what are they to do with your Christ. (And yeah, what 'are' they to do with your Christ?) America isn't the world and its Christmas traditions are millennia away from its own.
So long as Maxis insists The Sims holiday traditions remain vague and could apply to another religion or spiritual practise, there's nothing definitively Christian about TS4's Winterfest. Neo-Pagan sims can celebrate Solstice just as well, if not better. (They even have witches.) You can presume your religion owns it all you like, but Maxis will never give your sims Jesus at Winterfest.

Spooky Day? Our fun ways look nothing much like the old Celtic Pagan days of Samhain and nor does The Sims fun Spooky Day. Christians also celebrate Halloween (not all, but very many do). Why? Because their kiddies like costumes and treats, and because the good old Roman Catholics changed its name to All Saints Day/All Hallows' Eve and said it was about saints. Church be damned, nothing had changed about its Pagan traditions. Now what sort of critical thinking do you suppose goes into Christians participating in that old 'heathen' holiday? (I don't gaf if you celebrate. I hadn't inquired.)

I'll guess you don't care to consider any of this, though. You simply insult others, whine about liberals and 'the woke' (whatever tf that means); And oh yeah, remember those disgusting gays and pro-choicers?..So many enemies with their agendas.
Does that include your own? You believe you're correct about everything but you know nothing, and haven't the desire to learn about a thing outside of your own bubble. You're a typical extreme-right, conservative Christian spouting contempt for anyone who couldn't bear to think like you, and in so tiny a capacity.

There are gracious and decent Christians, to be clear. But your ilk are among the most selfish, entitled, narrow-minded, dogmatic, illogical, contradictory, hateful and fraudulent of so-called religious people. The nature of your behaviour is opposed to the preaching of that Jesus you claim to worship as a god. At the root of it all, you're as frightened as little children lost in the dark.

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

MORE important then "Winterfest"

*than

[James3157]

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

This is not an “I love America” forum this is a complaint on game detail.

There is a fine line difference between complaining and making toxic complaints. If it was only just complaints about bugs, glitches, game breaking issues (problems with EA App, crashing, not being able to load household, and etc...), price of dlc, complaints about the game (especially basegame) being boring when it comes to actual gameplay with or without mods, and/or complaints expressing disappointment towards at least some of the dlc for other reasons besides political (which is not a valid reason for complaining about dlc) even if debatable to some extent those are all valid complaints, but all of your complaints so far have been toxic and you are pretty much arguing with everyone instead of being more open minded as mentioned by Xautos previously. The exact opposite of being open minded is ignorance, bigotry, ego, arrogance, and arguing. Healthy debating is one thing because that is normal on Steam, but toxic debating and toxic complaints (especially if it has anything to do with religion/politics) is another.

[galaxyleggings]

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

This is not an “I love America” forum this is a complaint on game detail.

oh but it is and you been caught out with the rug pulled from under you.
you are espoutign right wing values of nationalism and pride in american culture and values specifically.

if this really wasn't an "i love america" thread, then there is a simple answer, learn to be more open of other values and cultures around the world and appreciate them. put your american holidays and what not aside and try out others from around the world and when you are done you can get back to your american holidays and what not and have more of an idea what you truly want.

You clearly havent read what I wrote previously in response to other peoples discussions. This is not solely about America as you would be able to see if you DID read it, however I am American. I want to see more holiday representation so of course my examples are going to be American holidays. I am not a geographer, I am not fully aware of every single holiday everyone celebrates and im sure you can say the same.

[galaxyleggings]

Publicado originalmente por James3157:

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

This is not an “I love America” forum this is a complaint on game detail.

There is a fine line difference between complaining and making toxic complaints. If it was only just complaints about bugs, glitches, game breaking issues (problems with EA App, crashing, not being able to load household, and etc...), price of dlc, complaints about the game (especially basegame) being boring when it comes to actual gameplay with or without mods, and/or complaints expressing disappointment towards at least some of the dlc for other reasons besides political (which is not a valid reason for complaining about dlc) even if debatable to some extent those are all valid complaints, but all of your complaints so far have been toxic and you are pretty much arguing with everyone instead of being more open minded as mentioned by Xautos previously. The exact opposite of being open minded is ignorance, bigotry, ego, arrogance, and arguing. Healthy debating is one thing because that is normal on Steam, but toxic debating and toxic complaints (especially if it has anything to do with religion/politics) is another.

I will complain about whatever id like game-wise. This is not political and clearly YOU are the one who just wants to argue considering what you wrote has literally nothing to do with what my complaint is on.

[James3157]

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

I will complain about whatever id like game-wise. This is not political and clearly YOU are the one who just wants to argue considering what you wrote has literally nothing to do with what my complaint is on.

Sovereign Dark gave you constructive feedback when she said "If not too taxing on their f-witted minds, players can simply change or remove them and add their own holidays and traditions. There also exist mods which add many additional holiday traditions" and apparently you ignored her constructive criticism. Why are you so concerned about small details such as Winterfest and some other minor American holidays lacking on The Sims 4 when it is also a fantasy game as well at the same time?

[Xautos]

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

oh but it is and you been caught out with the rug pulled from under you.
you are espoutign right wing values of nationalism and pride in american culture and values specifically.

if this really wasn't an "i love america" thread, then there is a simple answer, learn to be more open of other values and cultures around the world and appreciate them. put your american holidays and what not aside and try out others from around the world and when you are done you can get back to your american holidays and what not and have more of an idea what you truly want.

You clearly havent read what I wrote previously in response to other peoples discussions. This is not solely about America as you would be able to see if you DID read it, however I am American. I want to see more holiday representation so of course my examples are going to be American holidays. I am not a geographer, I am not fully aware of every single holiday everyone celebrates and im sure you can say the same.

i haven't read other peoples responses? yet you are still on about yourself and what you want, which is precisely what the others are trying to point out and you don't seem to want to see.

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

Publicado originalmente por James3157:

There is a fine line difference between complaining and making toxic complaints. If it was only just complaints about bugs, glitches, game breaking issues (problems with EA App, crashing, not being able to load household, and etc...), price of dlc, complaints about the game (especially basegame) being boring when it comes to actual gameplay with or without mods, and/or complaints expressing disappointment towards at least some of the dlc for other reasons besides political (which is not a valid reason for complaining about dlc) even if debatable to some extent those are all valid complaints, but all of your complaints so far have been toxic and you are pretty much arguing with everyone instead of being more open minded as mentioned by Xautos previously. The exact opposite of being open minded is ignorance, bigotry, ego, arrogance, and arguing. Healthy debating is one thing because that is normal on Steam, but toxic debating and toxic complaints (especially if it has anything to do with religion/politics) is another.

I will complain about whatever id like game-wise. This is not political and clearly YOU are the one who just wants to argue considering what you wrote has literally nothing to do with what my complaint is on.

yet you complain about the left leaning EA woke culture involved. if that's not political then my right foot is a car and my left food is a guitar.

more me, myself and i, which by the way someone else has just pointed out to you.

[James3157]

Just like galaxyleggings I am an American, but difference between galaxyleggings and me is that apparently galaxyleggings has forgotten this is a fantasy game instead of based exclusively on reality and ignored Sovereign Dark's constructive criticism that I specifically mentioned earlier. Due to the fact this is a fantasy game those minor American holidays (Independence Day also known as 4th of July and Veteran's Day) are not really needed and there are ways to add them anyway as mentioned earlier by Sovereign Dark. There is also at least one American (United States and Canada) holiday on The SIms 4 anyway that closely relates to Thanksgiving Day from Seasons and that is good enough for me.

[galaxyleggings]

Clearly some of you are still butthurt about my last forum and sharing your opinions about that, rather then what i am saying here. This is #1, not political. I did include a comment about the left in a later response, yes, but that was solely an off-topic remark, and not part of this discussion. I am actively trying to keep it respectful as most of you couldnt handle me being real previously. And #2, James, I am not engaging with Sovereign Dark, because they are clearly just gripping onto make-believe bs to avoid admitting that I am correct in my statement, I will not be reading their essay, so stop being annoying about it.

If anything, what I am writing is more woke then conservative so I really don’t see the issue.

[galaxyleggings]

Publicado originalmente por Xautos:

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

You clearly havent read what I wrote previously in response to other peoples discussions. This is not solely about America as you would be able to see if you DID read it, however I am American. I want to see more holiday representation so of course my examples are going to be American holidays. I am not a geographer, I am not fully aware of every single holiday everyone celebrates and im sure you can say the same.

i haven't read other peoples responses? yet you are still on about yourself and what you want, which is precisely what the others are trying to point out and you don't seem to want to see.

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

I will complain about whatever id like game-wise. This is not political and clearly YOU are the one who just wants to argue considering what you wrote has literally nothing to do with what my complaint is on.

yet you complain about the left leaning EA woke culture involved. if that's not political then my right foot is a car and my left food is a guitar.

more me, myself and i, which by the way someone else has just pointed out to you.

This is MY discussion, that I created to complain about what I want. This is my own personal complaint, not yours. If you want to make a GROUP complaint where you all pass around a talking stick and share SHEEP opinions go ahead and do so. But ill be damned if I step off my high ground to empathize with you lazy, boring people and your common wishy washy opinions.

[James3157]

Publicado originalmente por galaxyleggings:

Clearly some of you are still butthurt about my last forum and sharing your opinions about that, rather then what i am saying here. This is #1, not political. I did include a comment about the left in a later response, yes, but that was solely an off-topic remark, and not part of this discussion. I am actively trying to keep it respectful as most of you couldnt handle me being real previously. And #2, James, I am not engaging with Sovereign Dark, because they are clearly just gripping onto make-believe bs to avoid admitting that I am correct in my statement, I will not be reading their essay, so stop being annoying about it.

If anything, what I am writing is more woke then conservative so I really don’t see the issue.

Ironically, The Sims 4 is mostly just make believe and always has been that never was intended for realism when EA made this game and its dlc content as well. Rather than complain just add those holidays in for yourself on The SIms 4 if you own Seasons. It is really that simple.