Free to play??

[Asenath]

Um why does it say free to play? I am guessing it's a demo version or a free trial and not the full game that would make sense and If I am wrong and it's the full game then I am confused free to play must be a catch to it?

[Material Defender]

The base game is free to play, its the DLCs that would cost over $1,000 to get everything the game has to offer outside of mods.

[Asenath]

Originally posted by Material Defender:

The base game is free to play, its the DLCs that would cost over $1,000 to get everything the game has to offer outside of mods.

Oh I see thanks I already own this game and all dlc's I was just wondering that is why I asked.

[Xautos]

Originally posted by Asenath:

Originally posted by Material Defender:

The base game is free to play, its the DLCs that would cost over $1,000 to get everything the game has to offer outside of mods.

Oh I see thanks I already own this game and all dlc's I was just wondering that is why I asked.

you can buy them in bits and pieces over time, that way it don't burn a hole in the pocket. i mean who would be nuts enough to buy all the dlc's and kits at full price all in one go!?

if TS4 is something you like and can see yourself playing over a duration and you are sold on the idea of DLC's? consider them when there is a sale for them, a bundle might be your best bet for a good sized bit of content that can be added to the game.

[Asenath]

Originally posted by Xautos:

Originally posted by Asenath:

Oh I see thanks I already own this game and all dlc's I was just wondering that is why I asked.

you can buy them in bits and pieces over time, that way it don't burn a hole in the pocket. i mean who would be nuts enough to buy all the dlc's and kits at full price all in one go!?

if TS4 is something you like and can see yourself playing over a duration and you are sold on the idea of DLC's? consider them when there is a sale for them, a bundle might be your best bet for a good sized bit of content that can be added to the game.

I got bored of sims after awhile sims was never as good as skyrim and mass effect franchise is even better makes sims games look like crap no offence and in truth game-play of sims 3 was better the only problem is the performance was awful sims 4 performance is better but it don't have drivable vehicles I miss that and going to places sims 4 is just ok even subnautica was better then the sims 4.

[ViolentSilence]

Originally posted by Asenath:

I got bored of sims after awhile sims was never as good as skyrim and mass effect franchise is even better makes sims games look like crap no offence and in truth game-play of sims 3 was better the only problem is the performance was awful sims 4 performance is better but it don't have drivable vehicles I miss that and going to places sims 4 is just ok even subnautica was better then the sims 4.

I get where you're coming from - I didn't start playing Sims 4 until it was made free to play, I stopped playing Sims 3 because I got tired of trying to figure out how to fix various broken things in the game and the horrendous loading screens, but even accounting for the step down of not having the expansions currently, there is something lacking in 4. Apparently though it's much better than it was at release which is kind of terrifying!

I saw someone in a youtube video creating a sim in Sims 2, and it feels like there are parts from that game (like the personality sliders and attraction system) which would be cool in Sims 4. It's a bit of a mystery why somethings were omitted as they made the new titles

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by ViolentSilence:

Originally posted by Asenath:

I got bored of sims after awhile sims was never as good as skyrim and mass effect franchise is even better makes sims games look like crap no offence and in truth game-play of sims 3 was better the only problem is the performance was awful sims 4 performance is better but it don't have drivable vehicles I miss that and going to places sims 4 is just ok even subnautica was better then the sims 4.

I get where you're coming from - I didn't start playing Sims 4 until it was made free to play, I stopped playing Sims 3 because I got tired of trying to figure out how to fix various broken things in the game and the horrendous loading screens, but even accounting for the step down of not having the expansions currently, there is something lacking in 4. Apparently though it's much better than it was at release which is kind of terrifying!

I saw someone in a youtube video creating a sim in Sims 2, and it feels like there are parts from that game (like the personality sliders and attraction system) which would be cool in Sims 4. It's a bit of a mystery why somethings were omitted as they made the new titles

My Sims 3 works like a charm. You just have no patience to search for fixes as i did. As most of the players did. Waiting for EA to fix their mistakes is like waiting for snow on the Miami beach.

[ViolentSilence]

Originally posted by Ravenlast:

My Sims 3 works like a charm. You just have no patience to search for fixes as i did. As most of the players did. Waiting for EA to fix their mistakes is like waiting for snow on the Miami beach.

No, I just have better uses of my time than to try and find which mix of mods is needed, and then trying to remove the parts that cause other glitches, especially when mods conflict with each other. The traveller mod needed to fix the adventure boards for example brought up some other weird junk, and picking the adventures from a list was a lot less immersive and fun. The crashing/resetting with dive spots was never resolved either...

[Xautos]

Originally posted by Ravenlast:

Originally posted by ViolentSilence:

I get where you're coming from - I didn't start playing Sims 4 until it was made free to play, I stopped playing Sims 3 because I got tired of trying to figure out how to fix various broken things in the game and the horrendous loading screens, but even accounting for the step down of not having the expansions currently, there is something lacking in 4. Apparently though it's much better than it was at release which is kind of terrifying!

I saw someone in a youtube video creating a sim in Sims 2, and it feels like there are parts from that game (like the personality sliders and attraction system) which would be cool in Sims 4. It's a bit of a mystery why somethings were omitted as they made the new titles

My Sims 3 works like a charm. You just have no patience to search for fixes as i did. As most of the players did. Waiting for EA to fix their mistakes is like waiting for snow on the Miami beach.

TS3 technically is a dinosaur and acts like it, you'd be lucky to get it running perfectly on modern hardware without having to do something to peg it back like shutting off memories in game for starters, having 30 different saves for one game and so forth. it's a lot of work to get TS3 to run as well as you can hope for after all the changes but that's no guarantee it will keep running over an even longer duration.

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by Xautos:

Originally posted by Ravenlast:

My Sims 3 works like a charm. You just have no patience to search for fixes as i did. As most of the players did. Waiting for EA to fix their mistakes is like waiting for snow on the Miami beach.

TS3 technically is a dinosaur and acts like it, you'd be lucky to get it running perfectly on modern hardware without having to do something to peg it back like shutting off memories in game for starters, having 30 different saves for one game and so forth. it's a lot of work to get TS3 to run as well as you can hope for after all the changes but that's no guarantee it will keep running over an even longer duration.

My hardware is around 5 years old, i have closer to it than many people today. :) I don't see why should i update my rig every year, it's economically unlogical when i can run almost every new game smoothly. I let kids boasting about how NASA setup they have. On the end, it means nothing.

[Xautos]

Originally posted by Ravenlast:

Originally posted by Xautos:

TS3 technically is a dinosaur and acts like it, you'd be lucky to get it running perfectly on modern hardware without having to do something to peg it back like shutting off memories in game for starters, having 30 different saves for one game and so forth. it's a lot of work to get TS3 to run as well as you can hope for after all the changes but that's no guarantee it will keep running over an even longer duration.

My hardware is around 5 years old, i have closer to it than many people today. :) I don't see why should i update my rig every year, it's economically unlogical when i can run almost every new game smoothly. I let kids boasting about how NASA setup they have. On the end, it means nothing.

i never stated anything about updating your computer, i'm saying the game itself is massively outdated that you'd be lucky to get it to run perfectly.

[Piperbird]

Originally posted by Xautos:

Originally posted by Ravenlast:

My Sims 3 works like a charm. You just have no patience to search for fixes as i did. As most of the players did. Waiting for EA to fix their mistakes is like waiting for snow on the Miami beach.

TS3 technically is a dinosaur and acts like it, you'd be lucky to get it running perfectly on modern hardware without having to do something to peg it back like shutting off memories in game for starters, having 30 different saves for one game and so forth. it's a lot of work to get TS3 to run as well as you can hope for after all the changes but that's no guarantee it will keep running over an even longer duration.

I'm not sure what you mean. I still play TS3 with no issues, and no mods or CC. There's no work. You just hit play and go. I don't have any of the problems I have in TS4 where sims just don't do anything I want them to.

The only time I make an extra save for one game is if I'm not sure what direction I want to go in for something, so I can roll it back. Like if I want twins, I'll save before getting pregnant, since I don't use mods, I can go back and try again if it isn't twins.

I run it with Ambitions, World Adventures, Seasons, Supernatural, University and Pets installed, and a crap ton of stuff from the store. You do need to fix the fire station if you want to use that career, they put the parking space in backwards when they designed the lot so the truck can't actually move.

I currently run it on my gaming desktop, but for years I played it on a toshiba laptop that was running netflix or youtube on the tv at the same time. Ran it on a 300 buck gateway laptop before that. I'm baffled when people say it doesn't run for them, what in the world are you running it on? The only time I have issues is if I try to play Island Paradise, so I just don't play that pack.

[Piperbird]

Originally posted by ViolentSilence:

I get where you're coming from - I didn't start playing Sims 4 until it was made free to play, I stopped playing Sims 3 because I got tired of trying to figure out how to fix various broken things in the game and the horrendous loading screens,

I would much rather have one long loading screen with an interactive game on it that gives me in game points, when then lets you use the entire world with no loading screen, than a bunch of long loading screens to go literally next door. When TS4 first came out at least the loading screens were only 15-20 seconds long, but now it takes a couple minutes to go anywhere.

[Xautos]

Originally posted by Piperbird:

Originally posted by Xautos:

TS3 technically is a dinosaur and acts like it, you'd be lucky to get it running perfectly on modern hardware without having to do something to peg it back like shutting off memories in game for starters, having 30 different saves for one game and so forth. it's a lot of work to get TS3 to run as well as you can hope for after all the changes but that's no guarantee it will keep running over an even longer duration.

I'm not sure what you mean. I still play TS3 with no issues, and no mods or CC. There's no work. You just hit play and go. I don't have any of the problems I have in TS4 where sims just don't do anything I want them to.

The only time I make an extra save for one game is if I'm not sure what direction I want to go in for something, so I can roll it back. Like if I want twins, I'll save before getting pregnant, since I don't use mods, I can go back and try again if it isn't twins.

I run it with Ambitions, World Adventures, Seasons, Supernatural, University and Pets installed, and a crap ton of stuff from the store. You do need to fix the fire station if you want to use that career, they put the parking space in backwards when they designed the lot so the truck can't actually move.

I currently run it on my gaming desktop, but for years I played it on a toshiba laptop that was running netflix or youtube on the tv at the same time. Ran it on a 300 buck gateway laptop before that. I'm baffled when people say it doesn't run for them, what in the world are you running it on? The only time I have issues is if I try to play Island Paradise, so I just don't play that pack.

one user vs how many that have problems with it? i sure have problems it's very well documented all over the internet. so what if you have no problems with it, that proves nothing by itself. the point is as i've explained twice now and i'll explain a third time and as many more times as needed if you really want it that way, TS3 is a dinosaur, you'd be lucky to get it to work on modern systems perfectly.

[Piperbird]

Originally posted by Xautos:

one user vs how many that have problems with it? i sure have problems it's very well documented all over the internet. so what if you have no problems with it, that proves nothing by itself. the point is as i've explained twice now and i'll explain a third time and as many more times as needed if you really want it that way, TS3 is a dinosaur, you'd be lucky to get it to work on modern systems perfectly.

It's a lot more than one user. The TS3 forums and discord channel are still filled with us that play with no issues. I guess we're all just 'lucky to get it to work on modern systems.' Just because you're louder doesn't mean you're the majority. Of course the people happily playing aren't documenting all over the internet, we're playing. I know you'll just dismiss this because your point of view is the only one you deem valid, but it isn't accurate.

[Abyssian]

Originally posted by Xautos:

Originally posted by Ravenlast:

My hardware is around 5 years old, i have closer to it than many people today. :) I don't see why should i update my rig every year, it's economically unlogical when i can run almost every new game smoothly. I let kids boasting about how NASA setup they have. On the end, it means nothing.

i never stated anything about updating your computer, i'm saying the game itself is massively outdated that you'd be lucky to get it to run perfectly.

Well what can i say... i can run almost any game. Even titles like Black & White, Worms, HoMM 1,2,3, Warcraft 1,2, Starcraft... There is a lot of fixes for any game out there. All you need to do is search. :)