Hotel Revovator vs House Flipper 1/2

[Cryptic Llama]

I have seen a little about difference between Hotel Renovator (HR) and House Flipper (HF) but I would like to read more of peoples thoughts on them before deciding which to buy.

I particularly want something that is does the interior design and creativity well with a decent range of furnishings. Longevity and variety are also important. The hotel management and missions aspect of HR appeals to me.

I would appreciate to know what you think.

[Angel]

Attitude of Hotel Renovator devs (Two Horizons): horrible
Attitude of House Flipper devs (Frozen District): excellent

'nuv said.

[Kritter]

moments ago I posted a fairly wordy review that I think covers most of your points, if that helps. Tl;dr - I recommended it because I've had my moneys worth out of it, hours wise, but there's a lot of issues and it's definitely no House Flipper.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/krx74b/recommended/1214470/

[Cryptic Llama]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kritter:

moments ago I posted a fairly wordy review that I think covers most of your points, if that helps. Tl;dr - I recommended it because I've had my moneys worth out of it, hours wise, but there's a lot of issues and it's definitely no House Flipper.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/krx74b/recommended/1214470/

That is great timing of your review - very helpful. I am leaning away from HR now and more toward HF. Now to decide on HF1 or wait for HF2 to get more DLC, patches and discount.

[Moving Target]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cryptic Llama:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Kritter:

moments ago I posted a fairly wordy review that I think covers most of your points, if that helps. Tl;dr - I recommended it because I've had my moneys worth out of it, hours wise, but there's a lot of issues and it's definitely no House Flipper.

https://steamcommunity.com/id/krx74b/recommended/1214470/

That is great timing of your review - very helpful. I am leaning away from HR now and more toward HF. Now to decide on HF1 or wait for HF2 to get more DLC, patches and discount.

My opinion after having played all three games is:
Hotel Renovator - A bug filled cash grab, patches are few and far between and seldom address (much less fix) issues, some of which have been present since day 1 and the paid DLCs are actually just furniture packs as they add nothing in the way of gameplay or new mechanics.

HF1 - Thanks to its age this game has a massive amount of content and is virtually bug free, the base game alone has benefited from a lot of free content so is much improved than when it first came out. The paid DLCs are exactly that, they add new mechanics as well as gameplay and furniture.

HF2 - Amazing new mechanics giving you a huge amount of flexibility to recolour furniture, wall and floor coverings, decorative items and even some plants. The choice of furniture etc: is somewhat limited at the moment but a FREE content update is planned for Spring, there has already been a patch fixing the more serious bugs reported but tbh I have had very few issues (one crash that cost me a few hours work in over 100 hours played).

[Buckshot]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Moving Target:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Cryptic Llama:

That is great timing of your review - very helpful. I am leaning away from HR now and more toward HF. Now to decide on HF1 or wait for HF2 to get more DLC, patches and discount.

My opinion after having played all three games is:
Hotel Renovator - A bug filled cash grab, patches are few and far between and seldom address (much less fix) issues, some of which have been present since day 1 and the paid DLCs are actually just furniture packs as they add nothing in the way of gameplay or new mechanics.

HF1 - Thanks to its age this game has a massive amount of content and is virtually bug free, the base game alone has benefited from a lot of free content so is much improved than when it first came out. The paid DLCs are exactly that, they add new mechanics as well as gameplay and furniture.

HF2 - Amazing new mechanics giving you a huge amount of flexibility to recolour furniture, wall and floor coverings, decorative items and even some plants. The choice of furniture etc: is somewhat limited at the moment but a FREE content update is planned for Spring, there has already been a patch fixing the more serious bugs reported but tbh I have had very few issues (one crash that cost me a few hours work in over 100 hours played).

For the most part, I agree with you. I have played all 3 games as well. However I do have to say I do not agree with you on your Hotel Renovator section completely. The devs have made some major bug fixes, albeit it was quite a while ago. No bug fixes in recent times which makes me think the devs have given up on Hotel Renovator. I am not sure if the devs just dont care about this game anymore or they just dont know how to fix other bugs, or they are limited in what they can change because some things have been hard coded into the game and cant be changed.

I really hope for a Hotel Renovator 2 where they can address some bugs that are in Hotel Renovator. Another feature I would like to see in Hotel Renovator 2 is to make it more of a business management type game as well. Simply redecorating rooms and common areas is not enough for me. I want more to do besides chasing a chicken around. In my last savegame, I didnt even bother with the golden eggs. I left those for hotel guests to find.

[Siemasz]

Hey guys! We did not give up. At the moment the game is getting ready to launch on consoles. As Buckshot suggested, some of the bugs are a pain to fix, but we did our best to get rid of the majority of them. We've learned our lessons, and while there are no content updates planned for HR, we will still try to deliver new fixes if possible. What we will not do for sure is to carry those issues to our new games!

[Buckshot]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Siemasz:

Hey guys! We did not give up. At the moment the game is getting ready to launch on consoles. As Buckshot suggested, some of the bugs are a pain to fix, but we did our best to get rid of the majority of them. We've learned our lessons, and while there are no content updates planned for HR, we will still try to deliver new fixes if possible. What we will not do for sure is to carry those issues to our new games!

I am looking forward to any new games you are working on now and in the future.

[]

Played house flipper and some of the add-ons. Though I am very new to Hotel Renovator so can't give it a proper comparison just yet. I'm glad the game is around (I think). Looks like it has some promise possibly.

Some annoying things that could be revamped with a simple fix is the same boring repetitive 'sound' for removing trash or wrecking objects. Paper, Wood, Metal all make the exact annoying unrealistic sounds. Ok, so that's not the end of the world but audiowise comes across as very lackluster.

[SharonL]

My biggest gripe is that Sandbox isn't in any way, shape or form "sandbox." The selections to turn off events, etc do nothing. Sandbox is exactly the same as Story mode. I want to decorate the hotel as I wish without most items locked and the constant interruptions. It is a blatant lie to advertise there is a Sandbox mode when it literally does not exist.

[Siemasz]

Diposting pertama kali oleh SharonL:

My biggest gripe is that Sandbox isn't in any way, shape or form "sandbox." The selections to turn off events, etc do nothing. Sandbox is exactly the same as Story mode. I want to decorate the hotel as I wish without most items locked and the constant interruptions. It is a blatant lie to advertise there is a Sandbox mode when it literally does not exist.

Hey! Did you turn off the economy? Switching this will allow you to renovate without worrying about the progress.

[Moving Target]

Diposting pertama kali oleh SharonL:

My biggest gripe is that Sandbox isn't in any way, shape or form "sandbox." The selections to turn off events, etc do nothing. Sandbox is exactly the same as Story mode. I want to decorate the hotel as I wish without most items locked and the constant interruptions. It is a blatant lie to advertise there is a Sandbox mode when it literally does not exist.

Sandbox worked correctly when the game first launched but one of the patches screwed it up, I know because I played sandbox BEFORE it got bugged and back then you started with all the tools, no special events and especially no damn chicken. I played story mode for a while then went back to my original Sandbox game (settings the same as they were when it worked) and it was like being back in Story mode - BROKEN!
The Devs need to get their heads out of the sand and fix this!

[Gelle and Hades]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Siemasz:

Diposting pertama kali oleh SharonL:

My biggest gripe is that Sandbox isn't in any way, shape or form "sandbox." The selections to turn off events, etc do nothing. Sandbox is exactly the same as Story mode. I want to decorate the hotel as I wish without most items locked and the constant interruptions. It is a blatant lie to advertise there is a Sandbox mode when it literally does not exist.

Hey! Did you turn off the economy? Switching this will allow you to renovate without worrying about the progress.

This hasn't worked since one of your patches way way way back. You promised to fix it - and then didn't. You don't do anything you promise - and then you're rude about it. I cannot stand your platitudes or this cash-grabbing company's practices.

You ever figure out why all the stuff keeps spawning in the pool? Nope. That's been a bug since release. You never fixed the creepy-eyed chick, or the same NPC spawning for what should be a group of people that don't look like clones. You never fixed the issues with the walls in the lobby not saving that are on the elevator sides.

FPS is still terrible. My Cortex panel always asks if I want to modify it to run better - but it never runs better. Ever.

You're talking about how your game is "on sale" for 15, but fail to mention the other 30 bucks you have to pay for all your DLC. No free content. No Steam mods - just mod.io (and those will break your game sometimes! :D).

You guys deserve all the negative reviews you get.

[moiraesfate]

Go with House Flipper 1 and 2. The devs for Hotel Renovator have been pretty much ignoring the game and are rude to boot.

[Houstonheart]

this is concerning i may get a refund if the developers are that bad. looks neat but if as buggy as some say, and they don't plan on expanding it, i imagine reviews with drop and i need to refund and wait it out so they earn the buck. Developers these days need to realize, make solid projects, support, and be polite to the gamer or go under.

[Stars-N-Stripes]

Diposting pertama kali oleh moiraesfate:

Go with House Flipper 1 and 2. The devs for Hotel Renovator have been pretty much ignoring the game and are rude to boot.

Exactly why I never bought the game, too many other good indie developers out there.