Tommy Vercetti...Gay?

[CapFail]

Srsly, why he look like a oil-poured metrosexual? Why is he permanently ignores Mercedes? When you buying The Pole Position strip club and Tommy sees a stripper, he suddenly turn his eyes off to not see the stripper. And what the heck the last scene means? When Ken and Tommy hug each others necks, while standing in some kind of arch which looks like a love heart?
it's not my vivid imagination i can assure you, i discussed the matter with friends, they didn't answer me straight about his orientation, clearly it raises some questions.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not a homophobic, but this assumption opens a whole new perspective about main character's identity.

[WhiteDynamite]

lol

[JoesGuy]

"why he look like a oil-poured metrosexual?"
Because 80's.

"Why is he permanently ignores Mercedes?"
There was meant to be romantic subplot with her, according to some audio files, but it was cut.

"When you buying The Pole Position strip club and Tommy sees a stripper, he suddenly turn his eyes off to not see the stripper."
Playstation 2 era graphics didn't allow for much. He observes the dancers enough.

"When Ken and Tommy hug each others necks, while standing in some kind of arch which looks like a love heart?"
It's like seeing things in clouds. I'm sure it was unintentional.

"it's not my vivid imagination i can assure you, i discussed the matter with friends, they didn't answer me straight about his orientation, clearly it raises some questions."
I'm not so sure silence on someone's part is evidence for or against this speculation. At the end of the day, it doesn't even matter what orientation Tommy is. This game was produced before all this social justice nonsense made it the norm to fuss over these things. The game is about taking over territory.

[CapFail]

"I'm not so sure silence on someone's part is evidence for or against this speculation"
my bad, "raises some questions" it is about all my message in general.

"Playstation 2 era graphics didn't allow for much. He observes the dancers enough"
There is a lot of mission videos when you can see that characters look straight at each others heads and bodies, more or less.
If you look at the main section's strippers and clients who watches them dance, they look at the straight direction toward strippers, but tommy clearly turn his head(and eyes) aside from stripper. Well you can call it a gamedesigners flaw, but it's definitely not a ps2 problem.

"It's like seeing things in clouds. I'm sure it was unintentional"
You know this for sure or just believe in it? People seek for deeper meanings, and Vice City full of references and easter eggs, so i guess it is possible.

" The game is about taking over territory."
That's subjective, but i agree that mainly is about ambitious of a man who wanted more that he can chew.

[Mexicutioner]

They made tommy into a cheese ball in this game. I liked him in 3, where he wouldn't say anything like a badass.

[WhiteDynamite]

Originally posted by Mexicutioner:

They made tommy into a cheese ball in this game. I liked him in 3, where he wouldn't say anything like a badass.

in 3 what?

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lol

[Bibi Maghoo]

Originally posted by Mexicutioner:

They made tommy into a cheese ball in this game. I liked him in 3, where he wouldn't say anything like a badass.

He wasn't in 3....

[bgmathi]

Originally posted by JoesGuy:

"why he look like a oil-poured metrosexual?"
Because 80's.

"Why is he permanently ignores Mercedes?"
There was meant to be romantic subplot with her, according to some audio files, but it was cut.

"When you buying The Pole Position strip club and Tommy sees a stripper, he suddenly turn his eyes off to not see the stripper."
Playstation 2 era graphics didn't allow for much. He observes the dancers enough.

"When Ken and Tommy hug each others necks, while standing in some kind of arch which looks like a love heart?"
It's like seeing things in clouds. I'm sure it was unintentional.

"it's not my vivid imagination i can assure you, i discussed the matter with friends, they didn't answer me straight about his orientation, clearly it raises some questions."
I'm not so sure silence on someone's part is evidence for or against this speculation. At the end of the day, it doesn't even matter what orientation Tommy is. This game was produced before all this social justice nonsense made it the norm to fuss over these things. The game is about taking over territory.

I agree with nearly all of these points--with regard to how Vercetti's animation made it such that he "turns his head away" from the stripper, and CaptainFail's point here in the forum that there are cutscenes where characters look at each other, I think that there is a significant difference in the animation between a video/cut-scene and gameplay. Ultimately, I think the head-turning and body mechanics were likely just the game developers' way of making it seem somewhat more realistic. Now, very recent video games, such as Grand Theft Auto: V seem to have a long way because cutscenes appear to be situated within the background "noise" of gameplay whereas in older games like Vice City, the cutscene is likely a creation in and of itself, separate from the gameplay.

Where JoesGuy talks about "this social justice nonsense" "[fussing] over these things," is it a bad thing to discuss queer representation in media? I can clearly see from the language usage that there is a negative connotation and bias against social justice, and don't get me wrong, I have times grappling with issues that social justice people talk about that take me aback and I don't understand or get even, but I don't think we can simply call it "social justice nonsense." I do agree nonetheless that I really doubt that the game developers had a queer narrative or background for Vercetti though.

I mean, something that wasn't talked about here so far was how you can pick up and "have sex with" female sex workers during gameplay. If it were so that Vercetti is gay, then wouldn't the gameplay have been designed as such that attempts to hire sex workers would have a sexual script similar to the following?

-Sex Worker: Hey, babe, looking for a good time?
-Vercetti: No, sweets, I'm not looking for that.

[Slyfox]

Well he was in prison before going to VC ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).
But seriously though, i don't think he was a ♥♥♥♥, i think he's one of the most badass GTA characters in my opinion, and he does bang hookers when you pick them up.

[Vchipp777]

cause it's the 1980s?

[Element]

I don't know but he for sure has more balls than CJ.

[0CEMEH1TEJIb]

lol

[yo]

He wouldn't even give these hoes the time of day, you think he gots time for that bullshii?

[Kinako]

Interesting...

[Arucard]

It's the 80's dude, the gayer you are, the straighter you are...I know it makes no sense. Funny observation though, here's another: YOU STOLE MY FACE!!

Oh, don't forget the first time you get the golf outfit, some (construction worker?)guy walks by, "Nice ass baby!" -yes he was talking to Tommy.