Why some say that modded GTA 3/vc/sa is better than the remaster?

[dprog1995]

1.Modded version couldn't fix the "framerate above 30 ruins the physics" problem.

2.Modded GTA 3 allows you to swim in the water but it looked horrible.

3.Modded GTA can't make the gunplay and controls better.

4.Modded GTA couldn't make the whole map seamless and remove the loading times when you enter a building.

5.Modded GTA couldn't add checkpoints and couldn't add a full city map to GTA 3.

[Emerald Child]

Diposting pertama kali oleh 1Punman:

They're corpos they'll find a way...

I really just wouldn't worry about it. They really can't do anything about it being pirated. Many people have already downloaded them over the years and haven't gotten caught.

[monkEY-]

Diposting pertama kali oleh RocketJump:

Diposting pertama kali oleh V I D A L:

What nonsense is this?
dprog1995 is right. GTA3 was ready for launch then 9/11 happened. The team then decided to push back the release and change a few of the game's content to not feel too insensitive to those events. Among the changes were:

Planes in the airport had their collision detection removed.
Emergency response cars such as Police cars, Ambulance and Fire Trucks, that initially had exactly the same colours as NY real life counterpart, had their skins changed to not resemble NY anymore. More noticeable, the police car, which was blue and white on the first revealed screenshots, changed to black and white.

You write nonsense and so does the other guy.

5000 people dying in a horrible tragedy has nothing to do with political correctness and sensitivities that are the heart and soul of America:

Expressing yourself how you wish -- and the way the games were intended by the original designers who left the company they helped create including every smash hit that was ever made even before they were known for being called Rockstar.

There is nothing more American than how the originals were created. Freedom of expression is what America is known for the world over.

There is no rebuttal unless you think you should be shaming the original writers, which have since left the company.

Sounds like anti-free speech and typical catering to political correctness around the same thing.

When did feelings suddenly matter in regards to free speech issues again?

[Plake]

Diposting pertama kali oleh dprog1995:

Then by that logic all you anti-censorship guys should hate GTA 3.

Because GTA 3 was censored back in the day due to 9/11.

Wrong! The ONLY thing they changed was the flypath of a dodo in the sky!

https://youtu.be/qUI0moGiNuw

[Icesnake]

Flash news. You cant swim, you cant take cover, you cant switch to fps mode in GTA 3/VC, but here's a weapon wheel bro and map checkpoints in case you get lost in these small maps.
The DE is literally a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ graphics overhaul with broken animations and plays like OpenGTA.
That is literally it.

[Plake]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Masterpanos:

Flash news. You cant swim, you cant take cover, you cant switch to fps mode in GTA 3/VC, but here's a weapon wheel bro and map checkpoints in case you get lost in these small maps.
The DE is literally a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ graphics overhaul with broken animations and plays like OpenGTA.
That is literally it.

Plus improved gunplay, etc. which was not in OpenGTA...

Why are there so many braindead people always coming out of their holes on Wednesdays?!?

[Icesnake]

"Plus improved gunplay, etc."
Bro, have you seen the videos? They play like OpenGTA with the ecxeption that DE has a white lining to help you aim(unessesary) and a weapon wheel.


"There is no reason to swim in GTA 3"
While I agree on that, VC and GTA 3 do not really need a swimming feature. What they really need was a "warp to shore" feature just like in Saints Row, to avoid annoying drowings. I guess this needed effort and some talent to be put in, something Grove Street games really lack.

[Captain Morgan]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Masterpanos:

"There is no reason to swim in GTA 3"
While I agree on that, VC and GTA 3 do not really need a swimming feature. What they really need was a "warp to shore" feature just like in Saints Row, to avoid annoying drowings. I guess this needed effort and some talent to be put in, something Grove Street games really lack.

Vice City is full of beaches... Pedestians with swimwear everywhere. Wonderful sea with fish, sun reflections, rock formations etc. It is a real shame it doesn't allow swimming/diving!

[Icesnake]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Captain Morgan:

Vice City is full of beaches... Pedestians with swimwear everywhere. Wonderful sea with fish, sun reflections, rock formations etc. It is a real shame it doesn't allow swimming/diving!

Well yeah, but the original game was like this as well. To be able to swim and dive in VC like in SA, it implies that there is content under the water that begs for exploration or things to do while swimming to justify that feature. Something that vice city and gta 3 do not have. I only wanted for Tommy/Claude to be able to stay afloat and with a press of a button, to teleport back to the nearest shore. Creating extra content is already too much when the devs cant even remaster faitfully what's already there, but Im pretty sure that this "warp to shore" feature was doable as QoL improvement just like the weapon wheel

[Captain Morgan]

Now there is an answer. The gameplay videos leaked...

[Iggy Wolf]

A FPS view was never going to happen. I don't know why anyone would expect it. It wasn't even introduced until V, and even then, it was only the NEXT GEN version (Xbox One and PS4) that had it. It wasn't even in the original 2013 version of GTA V. And the original trilogy was never going to have it because it was never made with that view in mind so that shouldn't even be a factor.

[u2020bullet]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Iggy Wolf:

A FPS view was never going to happen. I don't know why anyone would expect it. It wasn't even introduced until V, and even then, it was only the NEXT GEN version (Xbox One and PS4) that had it. It wasn't even in the original 2013 version of GTA V. And the original trilogy was never going to have it because it was never made with that view in mind so that shouldn't even be a factor.

Actually FPS view was in the original version of GTA V as a mod. Yes, it was a mod on consoles. And it was wildly popular, which is why it was added in for next gen.

[Code1920]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Iggy Wolf:

A FPS view was never going to happen. I don't know why anyone would expect it. It wasn't even introduced until V, and even then, it was only the NEXT GEN version (Xbox One and PS4) that had it. It wasn't even in the original 2013 version of GTA V. And the original trilogy was never going to have it because it was never made with that view in mind so that shouldn't even be a factor.

Just a side note: First Person View was in the normal version of GTA 3 when moving the camera when standing still. It only let you look around in first person view without being able to move. so the first GTA 1st person mode was in GTA 3.

Another thing i noticed in the New Version of GTA 3 they removed the over head view. (like Classic GTA 1 and 2 had).

[Tharon]

To answer the question, i think this image i made can be a valid response.
Note : i don't own the DE, so i take a screenshot of a youtube video.

https://i.imgur.com/S2OOVKL.jpg

[Iggy Wolf]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Tharon:

To answer the question, i think this image i made can be a valid response.
Note : i don't own the DE, so i take a screenshot of a youtube video.

https://i.imgur.com/S2OOVKL.jpg

Thing is though, the bottom pic isn't of the original game as it was. It's the "Definitive Edition Project" mod which uses assets from the Xbox HD mod to replace the game's original textures with higher resolution quality ones and their shiny versions of the cars. They're obviously better, but they're not a fair representation of the original unmodded version vs the Definitive Edition. It's merely comparing what the Xbox version of GTA 3 looks like compared to the DE. But the Xbox version is also only available on the original Xbox unless you get the Xbox HD mod for PC.

[Tharon]

Well, the question was "Why some say that MODDED GTA 3/vc/sa is better than the remaster"

Anyway, i prefer even the unmodded version (without graphic enhancements) to the remaster. Not a fan of the new "plastic" look.