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I immediately noticed this in the trailer on the GTA3 car rain scene. GTA3 for me is very iconic for that blueish hue on top of the game as well as SA with the organge.
In SA original you normally can't even see a blue sky, because they yellowish/orange hue on top makes the sky slightly green.
This is gone due to a more realistic physics render lighting system of Unreal. Bummer they didn't take the creative liberties of adding that artistry detail.
However, let me remind you that the orange hue was entirely missing on GTASA PC port anyway... 1 of the many ways the PC port was butchered compared to the PS2 original.
In any case I already have a solution up my sleeve. Reshade. I pretty much apply reshade in every game I play for some reason or another to adjust things to my liking. It's going to be pretty straight forward to bring those colours back to these games on my end. So I'm not too concerned about.
First, yes.. everyone have been asking for these 3 games to be remastered since remastering games became so common place last generation. It has been brought up non stop for years.
Second, it's not about how it aged.. it's about how completely broken these 3 versions were. For me, I would be ok if they had not changed anything in the graphics at all... but they still needed a modern version/patch/remaster what have you. They are simply unplayable out of the box, requiring extensive modding to get them working.
The best authentic solution we had was the Reversed Engineering project, which I tried but it was full of bugs. Ran great, looked great, but the bugs prevented me from keep playing it.
The thing is.. there would be no way Rockstar would be able to please everyone. If they had played save and only update the game to have modern OS support, widescreen, upscaled HUD and menus etc.. people would say they were lazy and didn't do enough.
I guess modders may try to restore the original aesthetics on the remastered version in the future, so not all hope is lost on that.
To make a remaster or not especially on a beloved game that carries lots of history on its shoulders, is a difficult question to answer. Sometimes its best not to make a remaster at all; only apply some fixes and preserve it for the future gamers.
Half Life 2, as someone mentioned above, may feel now outdated, but its a well made product of its time and the limited graphic fidelity/gameplay is a vessel that may take a modern gamer back to the past and therefore does not need a remake.
On the other hand, even though I throw lots of crap to nuBlizzard, I gotta partially give it to them for Starcraft Remastered. The game's visual transition to the modern era was done almost perfectly but, nublizzard being nublizzard, they have messed up on modernizing the online aspect.
I will admit I was a bit hasty to say that nobody wanted a remastered gta trilogy. Im sure that some people do want this, but I believe if you ask every rockstar fan, they will say that they would prefer to have a new next gen gta game instead. I know I would. I got sick of seeing gta v getting re-released for the 2nd time. Time to see a new gta game.
This remaster will definetly divide the gta community and only time will tell if people will end up loving or hating it.
As for me, my mind has been made. Personally, the visuals are a major deal breaker but I respect that lots of people are digging it.
I just had to let it out, since I love rockstar games and that trailer kinda shocked me.
They haven't spoke about it, but more often than not, remasters and remakes are done by other teams. Rockstar North may not even have anything to do with it. Who knows?
Me personally, am a big fan of the type of remaster Nightdive studios does. It's almost like an update, They keep most assets, animations and visuals untouched and simply polish the textures and lights and that is what I was expecting from GTA Trilogy. They went above and beyond and I'm happy with that.
I've tried GTA SA modding before.. It's just not enough. No amount of modding can really bring those games to modern standards even with all the graphical updates, there are quality of life improvements the trilogy will bring that it's beyond the scope of modding. Like modern gameplay overhaul.
I also suspect that the fade to black we see when entering buildings might be gone. In one of the screenshots of SA, I think I can see the inside of CJ's house, which may indicate you will be able to walk in without a black fade.
Lastly, regarding mods.. this may look like a step back.. but there are two steps forward in exchange. As much as Take Two don't like mods anymore, Unreal Engine 4 is far more accessible than Renderware ever was. It's modern, it's freely available to EVERYONE to play around with and far more programmable and flexible. It's literally designed to be modified.
Just as an example.. Skyrim remastered.
The community was pissed when Skyrim remastered was announced as it was no longer going to be compatible with any existing mods. But, the original Skyrim was 32bits, the remaster was 64bits and that modern update open the doors for modders to push Skyrim modding far beyond what was possible before. Highly modded Skyrim today looks insane thanks to the improvements the remastered provided.
They can't stop mods and I think the modding scene will only expand. Games on Unreal Engine 4 often receive dozens of modes all around. Guilty Gear Strive had mods day one.
In a couple of years, the modding scene will be far more impressive than the originals ever were. U4 also supports real ray tracing and you can bet the mods will flow in out of control.
From what I have gathered, the guys behind this remaster are a small team that is responsible for rockstar's mediocre android ports. Lets hope these unused interiors to make an appearance here.
Will Rockstar really release the game without ever showing us gameplay? Even the screenshots are from those cinematic angles.
I want to see at least one screenshot straight up from gameplay. Behind the character with hud on screen etc.
I'm not to worried about this being developed by the same team that did the Androind version.. Those ports were made 10 years ago for cell phones. Considering that, they were quite impressive. The real shame was when it got ported to Xbox360 and PS3.. that was a big dumb mistake. But as 10 years old phone games, they were quite decent. I did buy GTA3 for Iphone 4 back in 2011 and I was quite blown away to have it on my freaking phone.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTxY_S0XD8E&t=1065s
Compare, contrast, calculate, estimate. Good luck with the new cashgrabs err, i mean gems!
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Not a fair comparison.
First of all.. It's a remake. A complete remake.
"Faithful" to what degree you mean? It tells the same story mission by mission.. but everything was heavily redesigned. Completely different character personalities, different actors, different music, completely different gameplay, systems and everything else. It's a full remake.
That's not what GTA DE is, nor what the majority wanted.
I know all of you kids whose first GTA was GTA V and you have been playing nothing but GTA Online for 8 years, wanted this remaster to be a remake to look just like GTA V.
But the rest of us boomers wanted as little change as possible. Remastered graphics, some quality of life improvements and that's it. Don't touch anything else.
I'm buying this to relive the nostalgia of the originals. Not to have a brand new experience.
Both are named definitive edition. Rockstar has much more money, so yes, not a fair comparison. David defeated Goliath.
I am wondering why I see you everywhere on steam forums defending anti-customer ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, are you paid for it, or you just feel good for being a loyal fanboy?
How do you have so much time to be present everywhere?
You feel alright defending a halfarsed job, despite you should demand QUALITY from a company that has all money of the world? Because it is in your best interests, as a consumer, to get a product as good as possible.
Why me, a "kid", should teach you, a "boomer" about such simple things?
Mafia Definitive Edition is as good as possible.
GTA Trilogy definitive edition isn't.
Well, companies don't work for free and they sure as hell don't waste time, effort, and money remaking something if they don't think said time, effort, and money is worth it. Especially if the intention to retain the original aesthetic is part of their goal and mission. If you don't like it, no one forces you to buy it. Move on and stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it. I swear, it's like all the idiots and trolls that kept ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the price and quality of the SR3 Remaster, even though they had no intention of buying it anyway.
If you don't care about it, why are you still here complaining then? It's the SAME ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ THING EVERY TIME a remaster comes out. People act like the companies are stealing their wallets and forcing them at gunpoint to play the damn things. I don't even remember this much vitriol for the Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition, and if anything would be considered a "lazy remaster", it would be that and Mafia II.