Old Guard, Oligarchs and Reformist, wich are the biggest threat to Sordland's progress?

[Postertag]

Hello, this is a question mostly for the more experienced players: in your honest opinion, of all of Sordland's main factions (The Old Guard, The Oligarchs, and the Reformists), which one do you think is the biggest threat, or at least the most detrimental to Sordland's progress and prosperity? This is mostly aimed at reformist, democratic runs, since more "autocratic" or "dictatorial" (differentiated between needing the support of the Old Guard vs the ultra-nationalists) runs are mostly about one's prosperity and that of key supporters at the cost of the greater populace.

[LahnaMan]

The Old Guard is the biggest threat to reform. If you support free market economy, The Oligarchs can be a huge asset for your reformist agenda (especially Marcel Koronti and his media empire).

With the Supreme Court in their pocket, The Old Guard can have you impeached if they hate you enough or launch a military coup against you, if you go too far with any anti-Sollist policies.

[Postertag]

Originally posted by LahnaMan:

The Old Guard is the biggest threat to reform. If you support free market economy, The Oligarchs can be a huge asset for your reformist agenda (especially Marcel Koronti and his media empire).

With the Supreme Court in their pocket, The Old Guard can have you impeached if they hate you enough or launch a military coup against you, if you go too far with any anti-Sollist policies.

Hmm, in order to avoid being impeached by the Old Guard, is it mandatory that I remove the immunity? Or just don't piss them off too much? If it is the latter case, what are the red lines that MUST never be crossed for them?

[Magni]

The Old Guard are literally behind the Circas assassination, with the explicit goal to pressure you into declaring the emergency and turning yourself into their puppet by doing so. The oligarchs just wanna make money, they don't care about you reforming the political system. And they've got far less powerful levers to mess with you.

[Postertag]

Originally posted by Magni:

The Old Guard are literally behind the Circas assassination, with the explicit goal to pressure you into declaring the emergency and turning yourself into their puppet by doing so. The oligarchs just wanna make money, they don't care about you reforming the political system. And they've got far less powerful levers to mess with you.

Undertood. So, its a clear picture of whom should I take care off. Stil, I just learned that Marcel is in cahoots with the mafia, while Tusk smuggled guns from Rumburg.
With these key details, do you think is worth pursuing the oligarchs, or these are "minor" offenses compared to what the Old Guard is willing and capable off?

[Iforgotmynames]

Originally posted by Postertag:

Hmm, in order to avoid being impeached by the Old Guard, is it mandatory that I remove the immunity? Or just don't piss them off too much? If it is the latter case, what are the red lines that MUST never be crossed for them?

They can only impeach you in a emergency run (in those run, they blackmail rayne with impeachment unless he complies with their agenda).
You don't get the opprotunity to amend the constitution during a state of emergency, witch is why they pressure reyne into declaring one

[Postertag]

Originally posted by Iforgotmynames:

Originally posted by Postertag:

Hmm, in order to avoid being impeached by the Old Guard, is it mandatory that I remove the immunity? Or just don't piss them off too much? If it is the latter case, what are the red lines that MUST never be crossed for them?

They can only impeach you in a emergency run (in those run, they blackmail rayne with impeachment unless he complies with their agenda).
You don't get the opportunity to amend the constitution in emergency runs.

Really? They only impeach me on the emergy runs? If so, off, I'm safe, I don't need to take the immunity of the judges off if I don't want to.

[Iforgotmynames]

Originally posted by Postertag:

With these key details, do you think is worth pursuing the oligarchs, or these are "minor" offenses compared to what the Old Guard is willing and capable off?

The thing is, you can direct the ACP against the old guard until the constitution passes. After the supreme court vote, you can change focus and direct them angainst the oligarchs.
If you do that, you defang the old guard (you won't be able to arrest them, but they won't be able to do much if Reyne is popular enough) and arrest the corrupt oligarchs. It is the most efficient option in my opinion.

[Iforgotmynames]

Originally posted by Postertag:

Originally posted by Iforgotmynames:

They can only impeach you in a emergency run (in those run, they blackmail rayne with impeachment unless he complies with their agenda).
You don't get the opportunity to amend the constitution in emergency runs.

Really? They only impeach me on the emergy runs? If so, off, I'm safe, I don't need to take the immunity of the judges off if I don't want to.

You don't stricly need it, but impeaching Orso is always nice.

[Duckman]

I played this game 6 times, ulltimetely the reforms dont matter at all. The only thing that matters is the economy and the reelection. The game is broken in an rpg manner. I would simply only focus on economy and not pass anything like education reforms, health reforms or anything that stray away from USP and Soll and conservatives. Because how most of the country and the assembly is already USP and antiquatem its just better to not do anything for the entire game that doesnt effect economy. Oh and avoid debts. So i mean there just no return in passing some bills in the long run. You can fix the economy eassier if you just keeps thing how they are.

[Iforgotmynames]

Originally posted by Void:

I played this game 6 times, ulltimetely the reforms dont matter at all. The only thing that matters is the economy and the reelection. The game is broken in an rpg manner. I would simply only focus on economy and not pass anything like education reforms, health reforms or anything that stray away from USP and Soll and conservatives. Because how most of the country and the assembly is already USP and antiquatem its just better to not do anything for the entire game that doesnt effect economy. Oh and avoid debts. So i mean there just no return in passing some bills in the long run. You can fix the economy eassier if you just keeps thing how they are.

Well, the point of the game that you can be a successful sollist dictator, or a successful democratic reformist or a successful democratic communist leader. Every path can be done, The challenge is figuring out how.

[Duckman]

The whole premisse that you were elected to change the country is kind of pointless, so i would just ignore either the reform or emergency decree. And just focus on not spending and the infrastructure projects. Theres literally no reward if you play the game right.

[Cowardly_chaplain]

Originally posted by LahnaMan:

The Old Guard is the biggest threat to reform. If you support free market economy, The Oligarchs can be a huge asset for your reformist agenda (especially Marcel Koronti and his media empire).

With the Supreme Court in their pocket, The Old Guard can have you impeached if they hate you enough or launch a military coup against you, if you go too far with any anti-Sollist policies.

Tell me please if you can negate the coup threat should you purge the Old Guard with ACP.

[LahnaMan]

Just don't defund the military or go too far with Bludish rights and you'll be fine. In my last reformist run I was able to give women rights and pass Bergia autonomy via decree and still get the second term.

[fedorkkk]

In my opinion, the Old Guard is the biggest threat to a reformist president, because they want to block democratic reforms.
However, if we're talking about threats to Sordland's PROGRESS and PROSPERITY, the Oligarchs are very dangerous. These are people who profit off organised crime and corruption and abuse freedom of speech for their own nefarious agenda. Sordland can benefit tremendously from removing them from power.

[firestarter]

Originally posted by fedorkkk:

In my opinion, the Old Guard is the biggest threat to a reformist president, because they want to block democratic reforms.
However, if we're talking about threats to Sordland's PROGRESS and PROSPERITY, the Oligarchs are very dangerous. These are people who profit off organised crime and corruption and abuse freedom of speech for their own nefarious agenda. Sordland can benefit tremendously from removing them from power.

That is only if your goal is to get re-ellected