2/3 Assembly vote requirement

[Largo833]

So let me start by saying that I realize this is a nitpick, but it’s always just bugged me so I finally figured I might as well say something-

In the Assembly vote on your Constitutional reforms, they just barely pass with 166 votes unless Gloria Tory is opposed to them, in which case she uses Soll’s presence as an excuse to increase the vote requirement due to 251 Assembly members being present. The thing is, 166 is already less than 2/3 of 250- 2/3 is 66.67%, while 166/250 is 66.4%, one vote shy of exceeding the requirement. If the game wanted to have the vote be more accurate, the “just barely enough” result should change to 167, which would still allow Tory to pull her shenanigans and kill the reform package unless you get one extra vote, since 167/251 falls just short at 66.53%.

This didn’t seem significant enough to put in Bug Reports, but I figure there’s no harm in mentioning it and seeing if it could be changed or if I’m the only one who cares (and if that’s the case, fair enough- I still love the game!).

[MoreEvilSquid]

Wasn't there one abstention (that I believe always occurs)?

I believe abstentions aren't counted at all for supermajority voting, which would make it: 166/249 (exactly 66.66666667% ie 2/3), or 167/250 (66.8%). Although I would prefer this to be mentioned explicitly (that abstentions aren't counted), I can also imagine that the people in the house would likely be aware of this and therefore it doesn't need to be mentioned.

TBH I'm not sure how common the thing with the abstentions is worldwide - it'd be good if the in-game reference pages clarified this.

[Largo833]

I'm pretty sure that Soll is the one abstention, so even if his abstention isn't counted the total number of votes is still 250. My understanding is that this is what lets Tory alter the result when you have exactly 166 votes- if she's in favor of your constitution then she rules that the abstention is disregarded and it passes, while if she's opposed then she rules that the abstention is effectively the same as a "nay".

[MoreEvilSquid]

Originally posted by Largo833:

I'm pretty sure that Soll is the one abstention, so even if his abstention isn't counted the total number of votes is still 250. My understanding is that this is what lets Tory alter the result when you have exactly 166 votes- if she's in favor of your constitution then she rules that the abstention is disregarded and it passes, while if she's opposed then she rules that the abstention is effectively the same as a "nay".

Does she effectively mess with the votes based on if she likes you or not? I didn't think she did that (and also didn't think the system would allow that kind of personal interpretation). That changes things then if that's the case.

I had always assumed the abstention was someone else since for me it always occurred. And didn't think he would count as an abstention normally since his presence changes the total.

I always thought that she could only affect the voting itself as opposed to how the votes are counted (e.g. if she likes you she will, on your suggestion, hurry up the votes - if she doesn't she refuses to do this (so if I anticipate her opposition I'll do some theatrics like shouting from my seat or something).

Either way this should be clarified somewhere...