Since the coup is arguably the most hated ending.......

[Dude1234]

can somebody post the specific in-game path on how to curb the millitary power of the army without having to please them(too much)?

[Typical_Name]

If you give yourself extra decree powers in the constitution (requires going down the dictatorship path), you can purge the general staff, ensuring their loyalty.

Alternatively, I believe that they will basically never coup you if you win the war with rumberg (but if you're able to win that war, you probably weren't defunding them anyways, and if you're funding them, they'll usually be happy...).

[Dude1234]

Originally posted by Typical_Name:

If you give yourself extra decree powers in the constitution (requires going down the dictatorship path), you can purge the general staff, ensuring their loyalty.

Alternatively, I believe that they will basically never coup you if you win the war with rumberg (but if you're able to win that war, you probably weren't defunding them anyways, and if you're funding them, they'll usually be happy...).

Out of curiosity,if let's say you give up land to Rumburg or just do anything that usually offends the millitary, you will end up getting away with it once the general staff has been purged right?Although I doubt it since that bald *censored* Iosef is still in charge.

[Natala]

Usually the main factor of coup is either giving land to Rumburg, or fail to handle unrest (either general unrests or BFF uprising). I have to stress that when unrest happens, it means your popularity is very low. A lot of people claims they got couped despite playing well, while conveniently left the part where people's is discontent and unrests happen.

Now how do we handle unrest then?
1. Be popular with the help of media. Koronti's offer you a deal at the beginning, which is provided to be useful. If you want to steer away from him, try to at least give him shares in capitalist route to appease him, or nationalize HOS if you are a socialist, or as last resort, build media council and censor media. Scummy I know, but when people play with fire, you should too. There is a reason why Lucian speaks about this at the very beginning of game.
Also don't forget, post reform meeting with minister, you can choose to start campaigning already. This also boosts popularity

2. Try your best to fix welfare. Quite straightforward. Invests on healthcare, maybe education, or passing Worker's Bill makes people like you (don't defund them too). Remember that privatizing a branch will reduce your popularity, but funding them too will reduce the effect. I must stress that you be careful if you intend to privatize healthcare, since people's live depends on it (Lucian warns you too!), and it will reduce conservatives support.

3. Economy is also important. Spend your budget on well placed investments, and don't overspend, and you should have it recovers.

4. Be careful with the young and red sords. They will cause some chaos at the beginning. You might thought that banning them is a good idea, but no, they will gets more violent when they got banned.

5. Pay attention to Nationalist vs Blundish problem! BFF might gains more sympathy and rebel if you neglect the Blundish population, like passing NFP racist Bill. Going to Ascraf Anniversaryalso please them, but you might be under fire from media when you attend that, so have media on your side!

Now what happen if unrests do happen? Well, the solution is the secret police if you have it. Not exactly democratic, but they will always gets the job done.

If Leke comes to your office and talks about Minority Commission, you are safe from unrest, since he only asks for help if Sordland is stable.

Any other tips? Well, there are plenty of ways:
1. In general, try maintain the funding and follow Iosef strategy. He is more loyal to you than Valken. Ofc funding them is an option, but if you don't want war its a wasted budget.

2. The surefire way is to purge Military with the super decree. It will always prevent coup unless you give lands, but its very hard to achieve for new players.

3. Having ACP targets and purge Old Guards also reduce the chance of coup, since they lost so many men at a short time, and they will have trouble planning for one.

4. Joining ATO also helps on reducing coup chance

5. Ofc, going to war also cancels coup.

The key to check if there is coup incoming is also simple. If you starts seeing "Unruly Generals" on military tab, or if you start parade and an assassin attacks you, its coup coming. Deivid will also warns you at the final meeting, so yes, you can see it miles away.

Why do I meantion unrests a lot? Well, its simply because its the main trigger. I had a game where I defund military and put Soll on trial, and there are still safe! Risky move though, I still suggests maintaining them and be respectful to the generals, and they should let you off the hook.

[Dude1234]

Originally posted by Natala:

2. The surefire way is to purge Military with the super decree. It will always prevent coup unless you give lands, but its very hard to achieve for new players.

Thanks.

[Typical_Name]

Huh, maybe it's changed since I last played - back when I played, the military would coup you pretty much just for reducing their budget and not doing suicidal things internationally.

[Anton]

Currently, just leaving the Gendarmerie under the Ministry of Defence's control will appease the military. Iosef even gives the player a little "You sure you wanna do this?" warning when you're on your way to be couped and about to transfer the Gendarmerie to the Ministry of Interior

[Enola Gay]

military tried to assassinate me, but because i paid someone off they failed and got arrested instead.

"spoilers"









Pay for your drivers's child's education. It will literally save your life.

[Typical_Name]

Originally posted by Enola Gay:

military tried to assassinate me, but because i paid someone off they failed and got arrested instead.

"spoilers"









Pay for your drivers's child's education. It will literally save your life.

That's separate from the coup ending. Unless it's changed or I was mistaken, you can still be couped even after a failed assassination attempt.

[Natala]

Originally posted by Typical_Name:

Originally posted by Enola Gay:

military tried to assassinate me, but because i paid someone off they failed and got arrested instead.

"spoilers"









Pay for your drivers's child's education. It will literally save your life.

That's separate from the coup ending. Unless it's changed or I was mistaken, you can still be couped even after a failed assassination attempt.

Coup happened after your meeting with your family (or whatever remains of it). When you are couped, you will get arrested and the game ends. Of course, this will be skipped if war starts, because military can't coup you since they are too busy preparing war.

Assassination happens on your final speech in the very end, so coup trigger happened before assassination.

[Typical_Name]

Originally posted by Natala:

Originally posted by Typical_Name:

That's separate from the coup ending. Unless it's changed or I was mistaken, you can still be couped even after a failed assassination attempt.

Coup happened after your meeting with your family (or whatever remains of it). When you are couped, you will get arrested and the game ends. Of course, this will be skipped if war starts, because military can't coup you since they are too busy preparing war.

Assassination happens on your final speech in the very end, so coup trigger happened before assassination.

Oh, I thought you were talking about the assassination attempt that occurs during the parade.

[Natala]

Originally posted by Typical_Name:

Originally posted by Natala:

Coup happened after your meeting with your family (or whatever remains of it). When you are couped, you will get arrested and the game ends. Of course, this will be skipped if war starts, because military can't coup you since they are too busy preparing war.

Assassination happens on your final speech in the very end, so coup trigger happened before assassination.

Oh, I thought you were talking about the assassination attempt that occurs during the parade.

Well, parade assassin means a sign of coup, because the military already dislike you a lot, or sign that Sordland is so chaotic, military intends to take over. You will always survive, but the other person might not...