Construction company - Train

[Bill Murray]

Which construction company did you choose and what were the negative and positive sides?

[Fringehunter7719]

For the Highway Taurus is cheaper than Underhall unless you want to enact Labour laws instead of vetoing them then caving in when the workers strike. Their tender is a point of budget lower than the other options.

If you enact Labour laws you'll get the delayed project with increased costs event, instead of the strike. That event gives you the choice of accepting delays or spending a further budget to put the project back on track.

The only downside to going Highway - Taurus - Veto Worker's Rights - cave in, seems to be any hit to public opinion you might get, which the game doesn't track, making it impossible to be sure what's going on.

I don't know if it's the same for Railway.

Edit: Spelling.

[Cally]

In my game, when the workers started striking, it took me -1 out of the budget to pass the worker's right bill again? So it was the same outcome.

[Fringehunter7719]

Passing the bill instead of vetoing it costs -1 budget. If you have Taurus then you will get project delays, so finishing on time then costs you another -1, for a total of -3 counting the -1 to launch a mega infrastructure project in the first place.

If instead you veto the bill, then you get the strike event rather than the delay event, so you get to finish on time when resolving the strike by going back on the workers' rights for -1 budget, but you don't pay separately to finish on time and enact the bill, so it's -2 total counting the initial infrastructure project cost.

Underhall and SSC both cost a minimum of -3 if you want Workers' rights, since it's -1 to launch the project, -1 to award them the contract and then -1 for enacting the Workers' rights bill.

[Fadi Efendi]

Escrito originalmente por Fringehunter7719:

Underhill and SSC both cost a minimum of -3 if you want Workers' rights, since it's -1 to launch the project, -1 to award them the contract and then -1 for enacting the Workers' rights bill.

SSC may end up costing only 1 budget point, but the project will be delayed by a year. Importantly, SSC costs one budget point less to build the 2nd megaproject.

[Fringehunter7719]

Escrito originalmente por Fadi Efendi:

Escrito originalmente por Fringehunter7719:

Underhill and SSC both cost a minimum of -3 if you want Workers' rights, since it's -1 to launch the project, -1 to award them the contract and then -1 for enacting the Workers' rights bill.

SSC may end up costing only 1 budget point, but the project will be delayed by a year. Importantly, SSC costs one budget point less to build the 2nd megaproject.

SSC will always cost 2 budget points. 1 to launch a project - that's unavoidable, and then 1 to award the contract.

If you want the workers' rights bill, as in the quoted scenario, then that always costs 1 budget point as well. I think the implication of your scenario is that it actually costs 4 budget to go SSC, workers' rights and to finish on time, but I certainly didn't try that for myself.

I haven't explored whether choosing SSC twice reduces the cost for the second project, so I can't comment on that. If it does, rather than just being the best choice for the second where Taurus is for the first, then you're still just as well off choosing Taurus twice as SSC twice.

Underhall is then the most expensive choice, which I guess fits with the bribery.

I'm not sure the second project is actually worth investing in from a mechanical point of view. It's expensive and offers few, if any, rewards. At least a couple of the project options don't seem to actually get finished within your term (I picked the Industrial zone), so are really just thematic/flavourful.

ETA: Here we go, this is the key choice for the rail project that explains which is cheapest:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2320711287
At this stage you've already paid 1 budget to launch the project, then chosen between railroad and highway.

[Typical_Name]

Escrito originalmente por Fringehunter7719:

Escrito originalmente por Fadi Efendi:

SSC may end up costing only 1 budget point, but the project will be delayed by a year. Importantly, SSC costs one budget point less to build the 2nd megaproject.

SSC will always cost 2 budget points. 1 to launch a project - that's unavoidable, and then 1 to award the contract.

If you want the workers' rights bill, as in the quoted scenario, then that always costs 1 budget point as well. I think the implication of your scenario is that it actually costs 4 budget to go SSC, workers' rights and to finish on time, but I certainly didn't try that for myself.

I haven't explored whether choosing SSC twice reduces the cost for the second project, so I can't comment on that. If it does, rather than just being the best choice for the second where Taurus is for the first, then you're still just as well off choosing Taurus twice as SSC twice.

Underhill is then the most expensive choice, which I guess fits with the bribery.

I'm not sure the second project is actually worth investing in from a mechanical point of view. It's expensive and offers few, if any, rewards. At least a couple of the project options don't seem to actually get finished within your term (I picked the Industrial zone), so are really just thematic/flavourful.

ETA: Here we go, this is the key choice for the rail project that explains which is cheapest:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2320711287
At this stage you've already paid 1 budget to launch the project, then chosen between railroad and highway.

Um, no it doesn't... SSC always costs 1 budget point in my playthroughs - 1 to launch the project, 0 additional money to award the contract (when there's delays, you can pay extra to speed them up, but you can instead just wait it out). Maybe they cost more if you said you were going for free market?

[Fringehunter7719]

I haven't seen that, I guess it could be. All the variants I tried ended up the way like that screenshot I showed, but it's pretty hard to experiment.

[Fringehunter7719]

Yeah, I just spent 20 minutes going through and SSC is as cheap as Taurus if you go planned economy, or at least that seems to be the trigger. I pretty much random clicked my way through a dozen events to get there:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2320933141

[Typical_Name]

That is interesting, I wonder why they would charge you more. Maybe the managers exaggerate their costs if they think you're not aligned with them on economic policy? Regardless, good find, thanks for looking into it. :)

[Fringehunter7719]

Nah, you noticed not me. Good find.

[boomermojo]

Escrito originalmente por RobOda:

If you introduce workers rights, you have to bail Taurus out with -1 economy because they overrun the budget.

I'm not quite sure how it is if you don't bring in the workers act.

If you veto workers rights when you pick tarus, there will be mass worker strikes, then you can sign the workers rights act for -1 budget to get the construction back on schedule. Only costs -1 instead of -2 that way.