New track pass (2023), new need to pay again ?

[SNiPERFOU]

After buying this game with all its DLC, including the track pass, I still have to pay 20/25€ for a new "2023" track pass, 1 year later ? Really...

The game is not even over, the joke...

Fix game issues (physics, sounds, stiff suspension, collision, etc.) before asking players for more money.

The game would be excellent and finished, why not, but it is not.

Honestly, the only positive point is that you continue the fixes, but if the game would have been a minimum finished and tested before its release, there would not be a need for all these fixes since 1 years.

Tired of these unfinished games where we claim a lot of money with DLC, season pass or useless pass of all kinds.

[HYPER I Rebel Yell]

These gaming companys are getting bad about this practice , and now theres talk bout raising the price of base games to $90 a pop. They are releasing broke games and fixing them as they go along , dropping DLCs before theres even the first patch to fix anything. But as long as people keep buying there broke games in the state that there in at release , there going to keep selling broke games to you. Out of all the years ive been gaming, this game is by far the worst for this. Iam for sure done with this company. UNINSTALLED , done with it!

[SNiPERFOU]

Originally posted by Rebel Yell:

Iam for sure done with this company. UNINSTALLED , done with it!

I think soon this game will finish uninstalling too.
I loved this license when I was younger, but since reflex nothing innovative and an unprecedented degradation.

[Camel]

You could be getting a rehashed turd costing annually 60 + all dlc every year, instead of a game that is actually being developed and cared for.

[SNiPERFOU]

Originally posted by Camel:

You could be getting a rehashed turd costing annually 60 + all dlc every year, instead of a game that is actually being developed and cared for.

Personally, I prefer nothing at all than paying the same dung every year.
I am not one of those players.
Here I see above all an unfinished game, released in poor condition, which they have been trying to finish with great difficulty, without knowing where they are really going for 1 years.
And despite the state there are DLCs coming out.
I see where the priority is on this game...$

[the bat kite]

The whole game up to now cost $127.89. It is a step down in quality from the previous game.

The greedy balls on these guys. Is this even happening! They have no gawdamned shame.

[Camel]

Originally posted by cajindian:

The whole game up to now cost $127.89. It is a step down in quality from the previous game.

The greedy balls on these guys. Is this even happening! They have no gawdamned shame.

You act like this is not common practice for every AAA franchise so that once they release the game, there are micro transactions and dlc to support the development of the software. Even indie devs have to make enough money to keep the lights on. Wake up and take a look around the industry. Auto makers are doing the same things, cell carriers and digital content providers do it as well. How many subscription services do you have that add up to way more than $120 annually. It is the marketing strategists that find ways to have a steady stream of income so that the willing consumer ends up having a more peace meal individual experience with whatever product it is. It is not greed it is ensuring job stability for the people that make these experiences for the end users.

[Mike1304]

What is the difference between old track pass and new track pass 2023?
Are there any totally new tracks?

[TWITCH135]

Originally posted by Mike1304:

What is the difference between old track pass and new track pass 2023?
Are there any totally new tracks?

The Season 1 Track Pass grants you access to 22 tracks scheduled for release in 2022!

Track Pass season 1 Details:
* 13 official national tracks from the 2022 AMA Pro Motocross Championship
* Official compound from a famous pro rider (Slayground)
* Supercross World tour with 6 challenging Supercross tracks

The Season 2 Track Pass grants you access to 20 tracks scheduled for release in 2023!

Track Pass Season 2 Details:
- 12 official nationals tracks from the 2023 AMA Pro Motocross Championship
- Throwback Track Pack with 6 completely recreated fan favourite tracks from previous MX vs ATV games
- Official compound from a famous location

[the bat kite]

Originally posted by Camel:

Originally posted by cajindian:

The whole game up to now cost $127.89. It is a step down in quality from the previous game.

The greedy balls on these guys. Is this even happening! They have no gawdamned shame.

You act like this is not common practice for every AAA franchise so that once they release the game, there are micro transactions and dlc to support the development of the software. Even indie devs have to make enough money to keep the lights on. Wake up and take a look around the industry. Auto makers are doing the same things, cell carriers and digital content providers do it as well. How many subscription services do you have that add up to way more than $120 annually. It is the marketing strategists that find ways to have a steady stream of income so that the willing consumer ends up having a more peace meal individual experience with whatever product it is. It is not greed it is ensuring job stability for the people that make these experiences for the end users.

I'm awake alright. This game is one of the most expensive games currently selling on Steam. It is average quality. Is this game in it's entirety really worth $150? Telling me that there are "indie devs that need to keep the lights on" is absurd here.

[SNiPERFOU]

Originally posted by Camel:

Originally posted by cajindian:

The whole game up to now cost $127.89. It is a step down in quality from the previous game.

The greedy balls on these guys. Is this even happening! They have no gawdamned shame.

You act like this is not common practice for every AAA franchise so that once they release the game, there are micro transactions and dlc to support the development of the software. Even indie devs have to make enough money to keep the lights on. Wake up and take a look around the industry. Auto makers are doing the same things, cell carriers and digital content providers do it as well. How many subscription services do you have that add up to way more than $120 annually. It is the marketing strategists that find ways to have a steady stream of income so that the willing consumer ends up having a more peace meal individual experience with whatever product it is. It is not greed it is ensuring job stability for the people that make these experiences for the end users.

Hi,

It's not because it's a fairly widespread practice that you have to agree with it and adhere to it like an idiot.
AAA or not, there is a minimum of respect to have towards buyers/users and a minimum of quality for the product sold, the 2 are not respected here.

he is right to disagree.
He is free to react as he wishes.
(I don't agree either with these practices marketing.)

Originally posted by Camel:

Wake up and take a look around the industry. Auto makers are doing the same things, cell carriers and digital content providers do it as well. How many subscription services do you have that add up to way more than $120 annually"

You wake up.
I don't have any subscription you quote here.
Time I can avoid I avoid personally.
And I'm doing well without.

Think carefully before purchasing a paid subscription annual or weekly. lol

Originally posted by Camel:

It is the marketing strategists that find ways to have a steady stream of income

Yes I agree on this point.

Originally posted by Camel:

so that the willing consumer ends up having a more peace meal individual experience with whatever product it is. It is not greed it is ensuring job stability for the people that make these experiences for the end users.

So how do others get there ? (all games virtually no DLC or product without subscription ?)
Think there's no need for that, it's just a dirty way of doing things for more money.

But since more people accept this and pay and do the piegons, the practice spreads.

[A-Space-Turkey]

Why TF should devs pull all of this work into new tracks for free?
Would you work for free? Didn't think so.

[SNiPERFOU]

Originally posted by A-Space-Turkey:

Why TF should devs pull all of this work into new tracks for free?
Would you work for free? Didn't think so.

I didn't ask to offer all the DLC for free.
(I even precise in my sujet that if the game was finished and very good, it wouldn't bother me).
But the fact all the DLCs are paid and many and especially with an unfinished game on important things. (specifically, physics/sounds/track deformation), that bothers me.

This makes it clear where the priorities lie.

That said, I appreciate the updates, the game is starting to be good more than a year and a half later.
Fortunately, without it he would have died right out of the gate. lol

[the bat kite]

Originally posted by A-Space-Turkey:

Why TF should devs pull all of this work into new tracks for free?
Would you work for free? Didn't think so.

Are you unaware of the cost of this entire game RIGHT NOW?

The DLC is EXACTLY TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS. The "base" game is $40.00. The base game is friggin' tiny.

Only the rich can afford the deluxe/premium Legends. But that's you with your 289 games and 448 DLC on Steam.

How does Rainbow Studios, a less than major developer, rationalize charging $240.00 for a game such as this one, and in it's current state of not AAA sophistication? They are killing off MX vs. ATV by doing this.

[Yornovich]

They are a tiny studio of 53 people. Some of yall should show some gratitude.
DLC goes on sale often enough (last christmas sale was 50% off on everything). If you can't afford that then that is YOUR problem to fix.

[SlamPigCity]

Originally posted by Camel:

Originally posted by cajindian:

The whole game up to now cost $127.89. It is a step down in quality from the previous game.

The greedy balls on these guys. Is this even happening! They have no gawdamned shame.

You act like this is not common practice for every AAA franchise so that once they release the game, there are micro transactions and dlc to support the development of the software. Even indie devs have to make enough money to keep the lights on. Wake up and take a look around the industry. Auto makers are doing the same things, cell carriers and digital content providers do it as well. How many subscription services do you have that add up to way more than $120 annually. It is the marketing strategists that find ways to have a steady stream of income so that the willing consumer ends up having a more peace meal individual experience with whatever product it is. It is not greed it is ensuring job stability for the people that make these experiences for the end users.

When the end product results in a never ending saga of bad player experiences then what the ♥♥♥♥ are you trying to say? If job security is the sum of the equation that is making broken games then they don't deserve it.