Rowan + Alexia + Helenya

[nocola5]

I can't seem to figure out how to get these scenes. No matter what I do, Alexia gets mad, moves out, and that's the end of it. How do you get the scenes with all three?

[MasterFool]

It's one of the trickier move sets to make.

Both Rowan and Alexia need to be fairly sexually corrupted.
Helenya has to be subservient to Rowan.
Rowan needs to convince Alexia that 3-somes are good, try for Luriel first after X'ratyl (sp wrong).
What you are looking for is a confrontation with Alexia where you are being hounded by her for traipsing about with Helenya. You need to offer Alexia control over Helenya and then get suggestive after that. Eventually you get a scene were you can bed both.

Alexia doesn't move back in with you, which I found disappointing. That option would have a lot of 'fun' for the couple in a power sense, which they don't have with our favorite cubi mistress.

I think the old CG guide might work up to a point, but I'm not sure.

[stm8022]

MasterFool a écrit :

Alexia doesn't move back in with you, which I found disappointing.

She also doesn't move back and you don't even get option to ask her after you help Helayna escape, even with Alexia's affection in 90+ range. It's pretty silly, and i just chalk it up to an oversight and/or something not yet implemented, like tons of other things.

[nocola5]

Try with Luriel first? You mean as a threesome? I didn't know that was an option; I don't recall ever seeing it. I must be missing something as some of these options just never seem to occur - I just wish I could figure out what that is.

[MasterFool]

Your first 3-some should be with X'ratyl (I keep screwing up her name, I've tried 3 times to memorize it... brain is too old I guess) as she's an easy one as long as the events trigger early enough. I have had runs with her that took too long for her events to trigger and it messes up that whole line of questing. Not recently though, maybe they fixed her events to exclude any RNG tests. Luriel is possible after that but you have to line her up just like Helenya, her cues are a little easier but Alexia has to be primed for it.

I'll try to re-run this path to see if I can remember how to go about doing it. I do believe there was some RNG processes in that path though that affect the timing, if you don't get the event, you don't get the event and it moves past it, but I haven't done this path in a while so I don't know what the recent changes may have done with it.

You can actually get a type of 3-some with Luriel and Helenya if you go down the right roads. It's on the Cuck Helenya path and you have to have Luriel as a lover as well.

If anyone else remembers this better than I, please chime in!

[stm8022]

MasterFool a écrit :

I have had runs with her that took too long for her events to trigger and it messes up that whole line of questing. Not recently though, maybe they fixed her events to exclude any RNG tests.

For what's worth relevant X'zaratl's events can also be triggered manually from Dark Sanctum in the early part of the game, if the RNG doesn't favor you.

[nocola5]

Finished another playthrough and still couldn't get it to trigger. I focused on getting corruption for both Rowan and Alexia where possible while trying to keep their relationship level high. I suggested to Alexia that the reason for Helenya was a threesome. She accepted it, but that was the end of it again. No threesome option for either Liurial or Helenya ever came up. I did the Cuck Helenya option at least a dozen times, but never got any option other than 'Maid' even with Liurial as a lover and a near max Alexia relationship.

[stm8022]

nocola5 a écrit :

No threesome option for either Liurial or Helenya ever came up.

Liurial's threesome is potential outcome of following chain of week end events:

dungeon_delving -- can happen from week 23 onward
spend_time_with_liurial -- can happen from week 28 onward
liurials_visitors -- can happen from week 34 onward
threes_company -- actual threesome event, if you can persuade Alexia. Mind you, the persuasion attempt will only come up if you admit to having sex with Liurial (or that you'd want to, if you weren't married) when questioned about it.

Edit: note, a cheap way to trigger desired events is to save scum -- save your game when the notification "end of week XX" pops up on black screen, after you finish exploration. Then, if you don't get desired event, reload from that point and try again. Some events are pretty much hard coded to happen at certain points, but for most part it's down to RNG roll.

[nocola5]

I've been trying to get the CG's that I don't have yet. I know that some aren't available because of the Fae re-write. The big one here is the R+A+H listed in the title which I haven't been able to get to come up at all. Someone else said I should try to get the Rowna+Alexia+Liurial one first, but I haven't been able to get that one either.

[MasterFool]

I've only had it happen on two runs and I've tried to have it happen on about six. That's why I said it was tricky. I do believe there is some RNG going on there, but it's also possible that some other factor (What job Alexia has, what Rowan's position with Cliohina or some other character is, etc.)

The only stuff I know to work is to have Alexia and Rowan corrupted enough to want 3-somes and Rowan needs to keep Alexia pushed to be very kinky in her sexuality. There are a bunch of other factors, but without reverse parsing the Ren'Py script and working backwards from the events with all the variables, I couldn't give you a definite path to follow.

I have hit them both, so I know they existed at one point, but with each update, we also may lose some past events as what triggered them may vanish or be unobtainable after a patch.