Impossible to play co-op

[Sheoak]

My daughter and I bought the game so we can player together. The host doesn't seem to have any problems but the other who joins finds it impossible to play: The other disappears, blinks out; the joiner suddenly is landed in a red shroud or tossed over the side of a cliff or finds themselves landed in a pool of lava. Often in each instance coming to life then dying, etc over and over again. Can't open doors or loot. So many problems it is impossible to find any enjoyment playing together. I've tried adjusting the settings to take any strain off the games 'workings'. Initially this helped a little, allowing the joiner to use the grapple hook, or to jump without falling. I'm not an IT expert just an 82 year old woman who loves gaming and particularly loves gaming with my international daughter. Is there anything I can do to make co-op work seamlessly or must we wait until the full development of the game.

[Skywalker]

We (two) play coop since release of EA many hours. No problems. Maybe your pc is too old or your internet too slow? I am sorry for you, that you can't enjoy this beautiful game.

[Reggie]

Originally posted by Sheoak:

My daughter and I bought the game so we can player together. The host doesn't seem to have any problems but the other who joins finds it impossible to play: The other disappears, blinks out; the joiner suddenly is landed in a red shroud or tossed over the side of a cliff or finds themselves landed in a pool of lava. Often in each instance coming to life then dying, etc over and over again. Can't open doors or loot. So many problems it is impossible to find any enjoyment playing together. I've tried adjusting the settings to take any strain off the games 'workings'. Initially this helped a little, allowing the joiner to use the grapple hook, or to jump without falling. I'm not an IT expert just an 82 year old woman who loves gaming and particularly loves gaming with my international daughter. Is there anything I can do to make co-op work seamlessly or must we wait until the full development of the game.

Sounds like you need to invest some of your pension into your gaming rig and internet provider if you enjoy it so much, good luck grandma and keep gaming!

[Palicai]

Originally posted by Reggie:

Originally posted by Sheoak:

My daughter and I bought the game so we can player together. The host doesn't seem to have any problems but the other who joins finds it impossible to play: The other disappears, blinks out; the joiner suddenly is landed in a red shroud or tossed over the side of a cliff or finds themselves landed in a pool of lava. Often in each instance coming to life then dying, etc over and over again. Can't open doors or loot. So many problems it is impossible to find any enjoyment playing together. I've tried adjusting the settings to take any strain off the games 'workings'. Initially this helped a little, allowing the joiner to use the grapple hook, or to jump without falling. I'm not an IT expert just an 82 year old woman who loves gaming and particularly loves gaming with my international daughter. Is there anything I can do to make co-op work seamlessly or must we wait until the full development of the game.

Sounds like you need to invest some of your pension into your gaming rig and internet provider if you enjoy it so much, good luck grandma and keep gaming!

What did i just read....?

[Imhotep]

Originally posted by Sheoak:

My daughter and I bought the game so we can player together. The host doesn't seem to have any problems but the other who joins finds it impossible to play: The other disappears, blinks out; the joiner suddenly is landed in a red shroud or tossed over the side of a cliff or finds themselves landed in a pool of lava. Often in each instance coming to life then dying, etc over and over again. Can't open doors or loot. So many problems it is impossible to find any enjoyment playing together. I've tried adjusting the settings to take any strain off the games 'workings'. Initially this helped a little, allowing the joiner to use the grapple hook, or to jump without falling. I'm not an IT expert just an 82 year old woman who loves gaming and particularly loves gaming with my international daughter. Is there anything I can do to make co-op work seamlessly or must we wait until the full development of the game.

This is called Rubber banding. One of the things to help fix this is ensure ports are open, and you have the correct NAT type.

[Sheoak]

Thank you for your suggestions, Reggie. Six months ago I had my old gaming computer re-fitted with the best of the latest. At the time I was playing Elden Ring and had no problems playing with my daughter. I live in Australia (notorious for its low download speed) My Ping test reads 53.41 mps download and 18.82 upload.

Also, Thank you Imhotep for your response. I will have to Google to find out what ports are and what a NAT is.

[Imhotep]

Originally posted by Sheoak:

Thank you for your suggestions, Reggie. Six months ago I had my old gaming computer re-fitted with the best of the latest. At the time I was playing Elden Ring and had no problems playing with my daughter. I live in Australia (notorious for its low download speed) My Ping test reads 53.41 mps download and 18.82 upload.

Also, Thank you Imhotep for your response. I will have to Google to find out what ports are and what a NAT is.

You're super welcome!

[Liralen]

If either of you are using a wireless connection within your household, try using a a wired connection to the interface with your Internet server provider and see if that helps. If it does, it's the simplest solution.

Enshrouded has two options for multiplayer. One is easy to enable, but game performance suffers for the person who joins. Enshrouded calls it Host, usually called non-dedicated.

The alternative is a dedicated server, in which performance is usually better, even if run on the same PC. It can also be set up on a separate PC, in which case a GPU is not required. Of course, a good processor, RAM, and storage space is necessary for good performance.

It does require a modicum of technical skills, such as being able to set up ports on your router and telling both Windows and any other virus protection you have to allow the game server to operate properly. I had a bit of trouble at first, until I launched the dedicated server with the "Run as administrator option".

Another option is to pay another company to host the dedicated server for you. This usually costs about $15 USD, but I've never used one.

[Reggie]

Originally posted by Sheoak:

Thank you for your suggestions, Reggie. Six months ago I had my old gaming computer re-fitted with the best of the latest. At the time I was playing Elden Ring and had no problems playing with my daughter. I live in Australia (notorious for its low download speed) My Ping test reads 53.41 mps download and 18.82 upload.

Also, Thank you Imhotep for your response. I will have to Google to find out what ports are and what a NAT is.

You are welcome, and if you have the best of the latest tech then that is obviously not the issue, reading your post again you stated your "International Daughter" i assume you mean she is not also in Australia? if that is the case that will hamper you too, the further apart the more latency is to be expected :(

Regarding waiting for development to finish, that would not affect the current situation, the issue appears to be distance between players and associated latency, also what kind of internet does your daughter have? the problem might be at her end, do you play any other co-op games together?

Also as Liralen stated above, make sure to have a wired connection rather than using wifi, it will always be more stable.

[Tashnaladar]

it might be that your firewall is blocking incoming connection requests. others have spoken on this, hope you get your issue resolved op!! ..../HUGZ!!!!

[I dont like sand]

I live in Australia also, I have mates I play online with in the U.S.
I'd suggest changing your internet provider, those speeds are kind of worrying. You should be getting 100mbps download speed or higher. You might also need a better modem/router. If you're connecting wirelessly with your rig I'd recommend a better wireless integrated chip with a dongle.
Your daughter may also require similar high connection speeds.
Also keep in mind your internet speeds may dip down at peak hour times, but that's again dependant on your ISP plan. Getting around 50ish Mbps might seem fine but here in Australia an average of that value tends to dip much lower more often than not.

[Avetembi]

Originally posted by Sheoak:

My daughter and I bought the game so we can player together. The host doesn't seem to have any problems but the other who joins finds it impossible to play: The other disappears, blinks out; the joiner suddenly is landed in a red shroud or tossed over the side of a cliff or finds themselves landed in a pool of lava. Often in each instance coming to life then dying, etc over and over again. Can't open doors or loot. So many problems it is impossible to find any enjoyment playing together. I've tried adjusting the settings to take any strain off the games 'workings'. Initially this helped a little, allowing the joiner to use the grapple hook, or to jump without falling. I'm not an IT expert just an 82 year old woman who loves gaming and particularly loves gaming with my international daughter. Is there anything I can do to make co-op work seamlessly or must we wait until the full development of the game.

Hey in Australia also. Are you fibre to the kerb or fibre to the premises. I'm regional and recently upgraded to direct to premises and my pings are hugely better.

[Sheoak]

Thank you each. Yes, I've always played wired. Initially, I thought it must be lag due to distance but we have played a number of games that we've had no problems, the latest being Sunkenland. Regarding a server: we have both endlessly tried to negotiate that path in other games, such as Valheim but never with any success, neither of us are tech savvy. But buying a server might be an option worth thinking about. My daughter lives in Denmark where they always have had extremely fast connection speed. In my case, I think my line comes in fibre to the kerb which I was annoyed getting. I'm really not sure about my daughter's computer; I think she has an up-to-date one but don't know whether its a dedicate gaming computer. That suggestion to check out a firewall is worth following through. I'll try that next. But what really puzzles me is why we've been able to play together on some games and on others only with great difficulty. We were able to play together on Icarus. Then we tried Red Dead Redemption and that worked but I loathed the game. We played WoW and ESO for a number of years but, of course, we were paying for that ability in the quality of the game. Thanks so much guys for taking the time out to help. At least you have given me two positive things to try.

[Avetembi]

Originally posted by Sheoak:

Thank you each. Yes, I've always played wired. Initially, I thought it must be lag due to distance but we have played a number of games that we've had no problems, the latest being Sunkenland. Regarding a server: we have both endlessly tried to negotiate that path in other games, such as Valheim but never with any success, neither of us are tech savvy. But buying a server might be an option worth thinking about. My daughter lives in Denmark where they always have had extremely fast connection speed. In my case, I think my line comes in fibre to the kerb which I was annoyed getting. I'm really not sure about my daughter's computer; I think she has an up-to-date one but don't know whether its a dedicate gaming computer. That suggestion to check out a firewall is worth following through. I'll try that next. But what really puzzles me is why we've been able to play together on some games and on others only with great difficulty. We were able to play together on Icarus. Then we tried Red Dead Redemption and that worked but I loathed the game. We played WoW and ESO for a number of years but, of course, we were paying for that ability in the quality of the game. Thanks so much guys for taking the time out to help. At least you have given me two positive things to try.

Seriously ring up your IP and see about fibre to the premises - the whole thing cost me $10 including nbn box and new modem (govt initiative to encourage people to do this). I'm in a country town. My ping went from abyssmal why bother to @ I don't like sand levels. Totally worth the couple of days it took

[Liralen]

Originally posted by Sheoak:

Thank you each. Yes, I've always played wired. Initially, I thought it must be lag due to distance but we have played a number of games that we've had no problems, the latest being Sunkenland. Regarding a server: we have both endlessly tried to negotiate that path in other games, such as Valheim but never with any success, neither of us are tech savvy. But buying a server might be an option worth thinking about. My daughter lives in Denmark where they always have had extremely fast connection speed. In my case, I think my line comes in fibre to the kerb which I was annoyed getting. I'm really not sure about my daughter's computer; I think she has an up-to-date one but don't know whether its a dedicate gaming computer. That suggestion to check out a firewall is worth following through. I'll try that next. But what really puzzles me is why we've been able to play together on some games and on others only with great difficulty. We were able to play together on Icarus. Then we tried Red Dead Redemption and that worked but I loathed the game. We played WoW and ESO for a number of years but, of course, we were paying for that ability in the quality of the game. Thanks so much guys for taking the time out to help. At least you have given me two positive things to try.

With respect to WoW, Blizzard provides the servers, as is the case in most MMO's, where you can run into thousands of players. Our PCs just run the client in that situation, not the server.

With respect to "buying a server", if that is based upon what I said, what I meant was renting one from another company for a monthly fee, which I have never done. I've just seen them advertised. One of the concerns that I would have is whether or not I can download the server files in case their service is inadequate.

[Reggie]

Originally posted by Liralen:

Originally posted by Sheoak:

Thank you each. Yes, I've always played wired. Initially, I thought it must be lag due to distance but we have played a number of games that we've had no problems, the latest being Sunkenland. Regarding a server: we have both endlessly tried to negotiate that path in other games, such as Valheim but never with any success, neither of us are tech savvy. But buying a server might be an option worth thinking about. My daughter lives in Denmark where they always have had extremely fast connection speed. In my case, I think my line comes in fibre to the kerb which I was annoyed getting. I'm really not sure about my daughter's computer; I think she has an up-to-date one but don't know whether its a dedicate gaming computer. That suggestion to check out a firewall is worth following through. I'll try that next. But what really puzzles me is why we've been able to play together on some games and on others only with great difficulty. We were able to play together on Icarus. Then we tried Red Dead Redemption and that worked but I loathed the game. We played WoW and ESO for a number of years but, of course, we were paying for that ability in the quality of the game. Thanks so much guys for taking the time out to help. At least you have given me two positive things to try.

With respect to WoW, Blizzard provides the servers, as is the case in most MMO's, where you can run into thousands of players. Our PCs just run the client in that situation, not the server.

With respect to "buying a server", if that is based upon what I said, what I meant was renting one from another company for a monthly fee, which I have never done. I've just seen them advertised. One of the concerns that I would have is whether or not I can download the server files in case their service is inadequate.

I cannot speak for EVERY server provider, but every one i have used (4 different so far) provide you with access to all the files, you can download your save files, mods etc.

If for some reason you came across a server provider that does not provide these basic options, treat them like the plague and avoid.