Enshrouded

Enshrouded

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WoodMan Feb 9, 2024 @ 10:38am
Questions before buying...
Thinking of trying this game out but got a couple questions first:

1. Is this okay in single player, or does it really need coop to be enjoyable?

2. I'm mostly interested in building. Does it let you get creative? Is the building heavily restricted by tedious farming for construction resources? Is it restricted how much and where you can build? Are the two screenshots currently in top of the week (one a village hidden in the forest, the other untitled pic by someone called Rose, player built things or are they things already found in the world?

3. Given what I've asked above is Valheim more suited to me? I was looking at that too, but not sure about the old timey styled graphics in it.

Cheers!
Last edited by WoodMan; Feb 9, 2024 @ 10:40am
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Blue Hasia Feb 9, 2024 @ 10:46am 
single player if fine and fun, 50+ hours myself now

building is really fun and you can get really detailed

never played valhem, and im a big minecraft and 7d2d fan so im into these styles of game and valeim never interested me.
emitfudd Feb 9, 2024 @ 10:51am 
I sunk about 400 hrs into Valheim and loved it. Definitely worth buying. This game is good too. I am just a few hours into the game and have already built a base that is about 10x10 squares. I saw a youtube video of an amazing looking base so the building is quite intricate.

So far I would say Valheim is way more of a resource grind compared to this game.

If you look at my screenshots on my profile you can see the enormous base I made in Valheim.
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Vela Darney Feb 9, 2024 @ 10:59am 
1. Been playing 90% single player since I got it, having a BLAST! Totally do-able in single player

2. As for building, you'll need to farm materials so you can build the building blocks. How much farming - that's up to you. You can build decent-looking structures with the most basic, "cheapest" building blocks already - you'll need stone, wood and fibre, which is easy to get and can be found all over the place. Building is restricted by the level of your flame altar - you start out with a small plot to build on, as you level up the altar, the building plot expands until it's, iirc, 160x160x160, which is a cube, so you can't only build 160 wide but also dig 160 deep and build 160 high. Which is quite deep and quite high. As for creativity - you can get quite creative, too. You can place single 1x1 building blocks so, basically, you can build your entire house using only those 1x1 blocks. If you wanna see what's possible regarding completely player-built structures, I suggest you look up Versaugh's builds on Youtube (for example). Or you can just take your flame altar, plop it down next to an already existing building and take it over - save on resources by just repairing instead of building the entire thing from scratch.

3. As an avid Valheim player - personally, I totally forgot about the old timey styled graphics while playing. It's still a beautiful game with beautiful scenery, especially if you crank up the graphics settings to max. The building system is, imho, the best there is, right now. You also can set world modifiers in Valheim so you can build without material costs - you'll still have to find the materials in the world to unlock the building blocks, crafting benches, etc but building them won't cost anything. (E.g., finding honey will unlock the beehive - once you've found honey, if you've set the world modifiers accordingly, you'll be able to build as many beehives as you want without having to collect the materials you need for them.)

Personally, I do love both games. Enshrouded gives you lots more quests and as for graphics, looks really, really nice. it's not just stupidly fighting your way through hordes of enemies - you'll find puzzles you gotta solve, too, but none of it too difficult so it always stays fun. Boss battles are challenging but do-able even solo. Just gotta fight smarter, not harder, as I always say. ;) The down side of Enshrouded is that it's just that one fixed world you get to explore.

Valheim, you got a procedurally created map, which means no two seeds are the same. You can just create a seed at random or pick your own code (personally, I really like "Freyaheim", or my "birthday" seed, 02APR77). You can check out seeds here: https://valheim-map.world/
Also, I do prefer the Valheim building system, especially since they added the switching through snapping points for the build pieces and the zero cos building in the world modifiers. But that honestly might just be me spending about half of my 1000+ hours in Valheim building and being used to that system by now. Again, if you wanna check out what kind of stuff players build in Valheim, may I recommend Versaugh again? Just for a couple of impressions on what's possible with and without mods.

In the end, I'd suggest you head over to Youtube and watch a couple of gameplay videos of both games to see what they're all about. Also, build videos to check out the building systems. That'll probably help you figure out which one's more to your taste.
Last edited by Vela Darney; Feb 9, 2024 @ 11:00am
WoodMan Feb 9, 2024 @ 1:24pm 
Nice, thanks for all the info guys! Think I'm going to give it a try tomorrow after work. Going to check out Versaugh on youtube now. Cheers!
Mirado Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:05pm 
1. the game is fine as solo

2. The building element in the game is quite enjoyable. However, I personally feel like you get too few building materials for the materials required. I built an individual single story house for each of the npcs at my base and it requires thousands and thousands of blocks, which in turn require a whole lot of materials, which differ depending on which type of blocks you would like to use. You can also find new building type blocks in the world and through quests. So, depending on what you want to build, it can be tedious gathering the materials for it.
Last edited by Mirado; Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:06pm
Skywalker Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:16pm 
2. Building, just look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4pGZN8wSBs ... then you will never look back to the oldfashioned and ugly-pixel-textured Valheim houses ;)
Tanzy Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:25pm 
I have over 250hrs and ive been playing solo (mostly)
Its definately worth the price-point. Even now, with only 1/3 of the rough game fleshed out. Theres hours and hours of fun to have exploring, building your base, gaining strength.
The dragon boss fight was kinda overwhelming at 1st, and i kinda started doubting soloability.... Once i got a better grasp of the fight, its defiantly soloable.
Mark of Argyll Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:32pm 
Originally posted by WoodMan:
Thinking of trying this game out but got a couple questions first:

1. Is this okay in single player, or does it really need coop to be enjoyable?

Single player is solid :) Solo'd everything.

Originally posted by WoodMan:
2. I'm mostly interested in building. Does it let you get creative? Is the building heavily restricted by tedious farming for construction resources? Is it restricted how much and where you can build? Are the two screenshots currently in top of the week (one a village hidden in the forest, the other untitled pic by someone called Rose, player built things or are they things already found in the world?

You can get fairly creative with designs, takes a little planning is all :) Currently player built walls etc don't snap to existing world buildings though I believe that's going to be addressed shortly. Resources are easy to come by, very easy.

Originally posted by WoodMan:
3. Given what I've asked above is Valheim more suited to me? I was looking at that too, but not sure about the old timey styled graphics in it.

Cheers!

Between the two I feel Enshrouded is by far a more fun and enjoyable experience. It shares many elements with Valheim but manages to make them a little more fun, less grindy maybe. Dying isn't so much a PITA as it is in Valheim either. YMMV.
:)
Doomed Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:46pm 
I'm playing single player and am getting close to 15 hours in and wish I could refund it
For me, just my opinion guys,it is a big empty boring world. It says it's a survival, building game but I have found zero things to threaten my survival and I don't get hungry or thirsty or sick so I'm not sure what I'm surviving . Other than in the mostly empty shrouds there is nothing I've found to threaten you or bother you other than a very rare wolf....who have never attacked me since 1st level .
You can build till your heart is content but since nobody is ever gonna see it I cant be bothered with it other than for a quest at the very beginning.
It's just a giant empty world sandbox game with some missions to delete the shroud. Which is beyond ez so far.
The only thing that even killed me was trying to mine salt because I fell in and got ambushed before I got my barring.
Qiox Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:52pm 
One thing I don't see anyone talking about is the multiple alters things. You can easily level up 2nd, 3rd, ... 8th, alters and place them so that the build areas are right adjacent to each other giving a vast area to build in if you want to make your own town or grand structures.
Doomed Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:56pm 
Originally posted by Qiox:
One thing I don't see anyone talking about is the multiple alters things. You can easily level up 2nd, 3rd, ... 8th, alters and place them so that the build areas are right adjacent to each other giving a vast area to build in if you want to make your own town or grand structures.
If anyone was ever going to see my buildings it would be fun but im playing alone so not much of a point to do it for my time.
This just isnt made for me. Its just a medieval construction sim. Im glad its fun for everyone else but i just thought it would be a survival game...its not.
Sutha Feb 9, 2024 @ 3:58pm 
Originally posted by WoodMan:
Thinking of trying this game out but got a couple questions first:

1. Is this okay in single player, or does it really need coop to be enjoyable?

2. I'm mostly interested in building. Does it let you get creative? Is the building heavily restricted by tedious farming for construction resources? Is it restricted how much and where you can build? Are the two screenshots currently in top of the week (one a village hidden in the forest, the other untitled pic by someone called Rose, player built things or are they things already found in the world?

3. Given what I've asked above is Valheim more suited to me? I was looking at that too, but not sure about the old timey styled graphics in it.

Cheers!

1. That's subjective. I am personally playing singleplayer and am having fun but others may not find it fun without others.

2. I love building. It's my favorite thing to do. It has a lot of creative as I currently am living in a cave with house like qualities that I carved/"carved" out myself. Farming can get cumbersome but it's not near as tedious as other games in the genre. Where you build has no restriction, that I've seen. Can't comment on the screenshots as I've never seen them.

3. Enshrouded has better building then Valheim. As a builder from both with a lot of hours, I can say that. Valheim does have water though and this does not. There's no water at all. Valheim is also procedural based where Enshrouded is not. I found Valheim not really fun until I had people to play with, whereas Enshrouded I am having fun alone.

Hope that helps.
Vela Darney Feb 9, 2024 @ 4:26pm 
Two words for the "ugly pixel Valheim" people; diagonal walls
Oh, two more words: round buildings

Neither of which is possible in Enshrouded right now, due to the voxel-based building. I mean, you CAN try to build a diagonal wall but since the smallest you can go with building blocks is 1x1, it'll be more like a couple of rows of columns instead rather than a smooth wall.
william_es Feb 9, 2024 @ 5:23pm 
Originally posted by WoodMan:
Thinking of trying this game out but got a couple questions first:

1. Is this okay in single player, or does it really need coop to be enjoyable?

Yes, entirely playable solo. Nothing that requires a group to complete. Boss fights might just require a little bit more buffing and preparation. But hey, they're boss fights. That's normal.


Originally posted by WoodMan:
2. I'm mostly interested in building. Does it let you get creative? Is the building heavily restricted by tedious farming for construction resources? Is it restricted how much and where you can build? Are the two screenshots currently in top of the week (one a village hidden in the forest, the other untitled pic by someone called Rose, player built things or are they things already found in the world?

Enshrouded has an INCREDIBLY flexible building system. There's no structural integrity or support mechanics. It's basically like a 3-D version of the building in Terraria. Things you build are functional, as in you can walk up stair, stand on a wall or a floor... but basically you'r e building for aesthetics and creativity. No limits!

Also one thing to note: Unlike the building system in valheim and other games, you are NOT adding discrete parts. When you use the building hammer you get ghostly outlines that are like rubber stamps. There's a common wall unit that's 8 high, 4 across. costs 32 blocks of materials. One mode lets you snap them edge to edge, 4 blocks at a time. But hit X and you can turn that off. Now you have free placement, but still with a block at a time snap points. You can _overlap_ the ghostly 8 X 4 wall with an existing one. The overlap won't cost any materials, so you will see the cost reduced by the overlapping areas. If the new wall overlaps 2 blocks with the old, it only costs 16 to build. Yet, each template added is remembered separately. With a single right click you could remove the newly added wall, leaving the old 8 X 4 completely untouched. It's a beautiful system once you get used to it. Very fast and flexible building. Overall, it's like you're using a 3-D paint program. Much like building in Terraria, or The Forest.

You can also just put a stack of blocks on a hotbar slot, select it, and add blocks 1 at a time. Note though, if you add them one a time, you'd have to remove them one at a time. That can get tedious. The templates are MUCH easier to work with. The single block method can also be used to remove blocks from a template, like the "hole cutter" from the game "the forest". I would add template walls with 2 x 3 window openings, then use single block to cut another 2 x 3 above it, so I'd have taller windows.

Originally posted by WoodMan:
3. Given what I've asked above is Valheim more suited to me? I was looking at that too, but not sure about the old timey styled graphics in it.

Cheers!

The art style in enshrouded is literally nearly identical to valheims. Both use an exaggerated cartoony proportions. A lot of people have been upset that their player characters look like "hobbits" in enshrouded, due to their body proportions. But... the characters in valheim look almost identical. There's been a very vocal segment complaining.... just to be complaining.

If you're a builder, you might like enshrouded better. Valheim has a frustrating buggy structural mechanic that I spent a lot of time fighting. My biggest viking hall has one specific roof section that would just spontaneously break. Over and over and over. Oh, I have a skylight now. Great. No such issues in enshrouded.
Last edited by william_es; Feb 9, 2024 @ 5:23pm
The Former Feb 9, 2024 @ 5:59pm 
The building is really wild. Amazing stuff, I'm having a blast with it.
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