Enshrouded update

[Saturdays]

"Fixed a bug where players could seamlessly chain long sprint jumps and therefore traverse the map faster than intended. Now it is required to take a short run-up for every long sprint jump."


Add this back holy hell. We don't even have mounts or any way to traverse faster.

[xitooner]

Originally posted by Saturdays:

You can still use the glider to glitch up a steep incline though

This was one of the things I wanted to check when I get home. I've reached the point of looking for some nice high places to build my endgame "cave house" with some great vista-views, and am going to be doing a lot of climbing the highest cliffs, and I dont want them to cramp my style too much

[Saturdays]

Originally posted by Tenoshii:

Originally posted by Saturdays:

Wrong bro, not in the desert. Trust me I live there.

No trust needed. I've literally used Ancient Spires to glide long distances in the Nomad Highlands and the Kindlewastes:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3155483940

Clearly this is not the desert.

Originally posted by Bosskcon:

Originally posted by Saturdays:

You people don't get it, you clearly cannot glide in the deserts.

Skill Issue

Oh my god.

[Saturdays]

Originally posted by Storm Reaver:

Build yourself a floating island with a really high advantage point. Problem Solved.

How do you even get up there now?

[Tenoshii]

Originally posted by Saturdays:

Clearly this is not the desert.

I guess it's "not a desert" just like this point in the Nomad Highlands:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3155487374

[Bosskcon]

Originally posted by Saturdays:

Originally posted by Storm Reaver:

Build yourself a floating island with a really high advantage point. Problem Solved.

How do you even get up there now?

With a glider

[Ozzy OzBorn]

You can always use a pickaxe and dig a path up the mountain....done that a few times....that's the beauty of changeable terrain.

[Storm Reaver]

Build yourself a floating island with a really high advantage point. Problem Solved. I would recommend building those floating islands in dead-zones in-between the Spires so you have good coverage over the whole map.

It's just easier to use dirt and two alters to build an island in the sky. You use terrain to build to your maximum height limit and then set down another alter. You can remove the alter below and then just repeat again.

Who doesn't have fantasies making a magical floating island?

[Hazel]

The devs are obviously not listening to people if they're prioritizing removing fun over whether their game even is fun after their changes at all.

If the problem is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ easily solved that it's just "build a tower or island lol" then it didn't need to be solved in the first place.

This game is getting worse the more the devs "design it" it's not an interesting puzzle to walk slower sorry and the points of interest aren't interesting enough for the adventure to matter either.

They're asking us to go the long way around to appreciate bare minimum efforts. No thanks.

[Nerevar]

double jump. glide. updraft. land. double jump. updraft. glide. land.

repeat as needed. you are stupid fast accross the entire map thanks to the gliders and towers.

[Hazel]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

double jump. glide. updraft. land. double jump. updraft. glide. land.

repeat as needed. you are stupid fast accross the entire map thanks to the gliders and towers.

Those are two skills on two different sides of the tree, and if we can be stupid fast then why bother fixing something that doesn't need to be fixed and was actually fun to use?

Again if it going away is such a non-issue because we have other ways of doing it.

Why did it need to go away, it made movement more fun and now movement is less fun and we're still fast.

I was optimistic after beta to early access changes were a little daft but it feels like this dev team is blizzard like in that they think they know best, they develop to numbers only they care about and actual thoughts about how humans think and interact with a game seem lost on them.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Sey:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

double jump. glide. updraft. land. double jump. updraft. glide. land.

repeat as needed. you are stupid fast accross the entire map thanks to the gliders and towers.

Those are two skills on two different sides of the tree, and if we can be stupid fast then why bother fixing something that doesn't need to be fixed and was actually fun to use?

Again if it going away is such a non-issue because we have other ways of doing it.

Why did it need to go away, it made movement more fun and now movement is less fun and we're still fast.

I was optimistic after beta to early access changes were a little daft but it feels like this dev team is blizzard like in that they think they know best, they develop to numbers only they care about and actual thoughts about how humans think and interact with a game seem lost on them.

double jump is a meta skill. not haveing it has only downsides for any build currently. it has only advantages. updraft isnt even needed to make my example work. it just makes it work even better. its a bonus. can get it. or not. you are more than fast enough currently. and still got plenty of options. the devs decide what they change or fix and what they dont if its not blatantly obivious bugs with numbers.

"its less FUN." it was more "fun" before. FUN. ok. WHY do you think FUN is an argument for ANYTHING but YOUR personal idea of what is fun and what isnt? why do you think THAT is an argument for anything but yourself?

provide an actual reason for why its worse now. FUN aint a reason. as fun is subjective to the user claiming "its fun" in the first place. thus fun cannot ever be used as an argument. as its the same as saying "i liked it more before this change" which is ultimately not relevant for the change to be rolled back or not at all.

[Hazel]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

Originally posted by Sey:

Those are two skills on two different sides of the tree, and if we can be stupid fast then why bother fixing something that doesn't need to be fixed and was actually fun to use?

Again if it going away is such a non-issue because we have other ways of doing it.

Why did it need to go away, it made movement more fun and now movement is less fun and we're still fast.

I was optimistic after beta to early access changes were a little daft but it feels like this dev team is blizzard like in that they think they know best, they develop to numbers only they care about and actual thoughts about how humans think and interact with a game seem lost on them.

double jump is a meta skill. not haveing it has only downsides for any build currently. it has only advantages. updraft isnt even needed to make my example work. it just makes it work even better. its a bonus. can get it. or not. you are more than fast enough currently. and still got plenty of options. the devs decide what they change or fix and what they dont if its not blatantly obivious bugs with numbers.

"its less FUN." it was more "fun" before. FUN. ok. WHY do you think FUN is an argument for ANYTHING but YOUR personal idea of what is fun and what isnt? why do you think THAT is an argument for anything but yourself?

provide an actual reason for why its worse now. FUN aint a reason. as fun is subjective to the user claiming "its fun" in the first place. thus fun cannot ever be used as an argument. as its the same as saying "i liked it more before this change" which is ultimately not relevant for the change to be rolled back or not at all.

fun is hard to state but actually

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ YES fun is a reason this is a game, whether you're suffering through a challenge or not you're doing it for fun. That is what leisure is.

Regardless for fun.

It doesn't change the balance of the game only gives you less ways to interact with it.

It was removed for no good reason.

Saying they made the game less fun by removing somthing and stating why I feel that way is valid and the valid way of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ doing it.

If you want to blindly defend the game you can do it on discord.

[JS]

Originally posted by Saturdays:

Originally posted by JS:

Its not many places you actually have to run, you can glide 90% of the map. If you are really lazy, then build alters on high tops, you can build 8 in total as of now. SCatter them strategic around the map. Problem solved. (not to mention the spires in all regions)

Um, what about in the actual fog stuff, when the timer is running down, now we cant get out fast enough.

You mean the shroud? Get your skills and alters lvled up same with your comfort in the house. I ave 64 in comfort etc I last 15min in shroud....E; you also have potions for the shroud, you get them everywhere and they are easy to craft. Make sure to destroy everything when looting, perticularly the barrels etc in Spire towers

[Kittenborn]

This once again feels like an issue that would have been solved better with game setting choices.

With game settings people could set if jump eats stamina or not, or by how much. I really hope we get custom game settings.

[JS]

Originally posted by Sey:

Originally posted by Nerevar:

double jump. glide. updraft. land. double jump. updraft. glide. land.

repeat as needed. you are stupid fast accross the entire map thanks to the gliders and towers.

Those are two skills on two different sides of the tree, and if we can be stupid fast then why bother fixing something that doesn't need to be fixed and was actually fun to use?

Again if it going away is such a non-issue because we have other ways of doing it.

Why did it need to go away, it made movement more fun and now movement is less fun and we're still fast.

I was optimistic after beta to early access changes were a little daft but it feels like this dev team is blizzard like in that they think they know best, they develop to numbers only they care about and actual thoughts about how humans think and interact with a game seem lost on them.

I'm full Barb/warrior, and have a bunch in Athlete, surviver, trixter aswell as tank.....Get you points up and grab what you need, its one of the easiest games so its not hard.