Using Elixir

[MistrBill]

I've got stacks of elixir I've never used because, yuck. I guess I'm more of a role player than I thought.

It seems to me that using Elixir should come with bigger penalties, even stacking penalties for each successive time you use it. The -1 minute in the shroud is nuthin, and since this Elixir is the cause of all this worlds awfulness, you'd think it would be a big deal to use it.

[dr46onfusion]

It's fine, because the point is that the elixir warps the human body, but you are a flameborn so you are very resistant to it.

You can stack elixir + prayer of flames for a +30% atk, +20% m.atk, and no timer penalties lol.

When you add shroud survival potion buffs on top it's even bigger gains.

What should be implemented is enemies 'drinking' elixir while in a fight with you and becoming super tanky as part of their phase change.

[404]

I mean.... the little health potion could be good? Blueberries and Mushrooms, i imagine it to taste like a sweet red Miso soup.
But that blue one you find that ups attack and -1m in shroud just looks naaasty

[MistrBill]

Originally posted by Kai:

It's fine, because the point is that the elixir warps the human body, but you are a flameborn so you are very resistant to it.

You can stack elixir + prayer of flames for a +30% atk, +20% m.atk, and no timer penalties lol.

When you add shroud survival potion buffs on top it's even bigger gains.

What should be implemented is enemies 'drinking' elixir while in a fight with you and becoming super tanky as part of their phase change.

This game is pretty polished for an early access, but the more I play it, the more I'm sure that some serious rebalancing is going to happen before it's finalized.

Originally posted by ⅳ⦻ⅳ:

I mean.... the little health potion could be good? Blueberries and Mushrooms, i imagine it to taste like a sweet red Miso soup.
But that blue one you find that ups attack and -1m in shroud just looks naaasty

With all the ways you have to either buff up your shroud time or reset the timer, a one minute debuff is nothing. +30% damage is a big benefit by comparison.

[404]

Originally posted by MistrBill:

With all the ways you have to either buff up your shroud time or reset the timer, a one minute debuff is nothing. +30% damage is a big benefit by comparison.

With the armour i'm using Guardian of the North, that -1 min is horrible and drops my time (even with shroud potion) to around 4-5 mins with a level 2 flame.
X.x

Originally posted by MistrBill:

I've got stacks of elixir I've never used because, yuck. I guess I'm more of a role player than I thought.

But i was more commenting about how it tastes as per the above quote, not its effectiveness or usefulness. Blue drank is either super delicious or heinous lmao

[MistrBill]

I finally used one, and afterwards, got an 'elixir crazed' debuff that lasts at least 12 minutes. That's more like what I'd expect, a big downside to using it. Now if I could just figure out what the debuff actually DID...

[Liralen]

Originally posted by MistrBill:

I finally used one, and afterwards, got an 'elixir crazed' debuff that lasts at least 12 minutes. That's more like what I'd expect, a big downside to using it. Now if I could just figure out what the debuff actually DID...

If you figure it out, let us know. :)

[Wosly]

Originally posted by MistrBill:

I finally used one, and afterwards, got an 'elixir crazed' debuff that lasts at least 12 minutes. That's more like what I'd expect, a big downside to using it. Now if I could just figure out what the debuff actually DID...

Same, I am wondering what it does, and coming up short. How bad can it really be, right?

[Sasheria]

Originally posted by Wosly:

Originally posted by MistrBill:

I finally used one, and afterwards, got an 'elixir crazed' debuff that lasts at least 12 minutes. That's more like what I'd expect, a big downside to using it. Now if I could just figure out what the debuff actually DID...

Same, I am wondering what it does, and coming up short. How bad can it really be, right?

Right, I mean... we are suppose to be "immune" right? ;)

[Clawyer]

Elixir says on the tin "30% more damage, -1 minute max shroud time". That's what it does..?

[Sasheria]

Originally posted by Clawyer:

Elixir says on the tin "30% more damage, -1 minute max shroud time". That's what it does..?

right, there is after effect after it wore out. we are not sure what it does.
and I (just me) too lazy and strict not to test it out ;) (character wise, elixer = bad, no drinkie drinkie!)

[MistrBill]

Originally posted by Cormian:

Originally posted by Clawyer:

Elixir says on the tin "30% more damage, -1 minute max shroud time". That's what it does..?

right, there is after effect after it wore out. we are not sure what it does.
and I (just me) too lazy and strict not to test it out ;) (character wise, elixer = bad, no drinkie drinkie!)

There's a debuff after the original potion expires, but no one knows what it does.

[Frost Wyvern]

Hey. I could be wrong so double check yourself, but I believe in the status screen it generally says what buffs and debuffs do. Or at least they have a description but some aren't always helpful. I also wasn't sure what the debuff was so I looked there and if I remember correctly, essentially the buff was the bonus attack and the elixir crazed debuff referred to the -1 shroud time.

[crzyfsh123]

Haha, like Mr. Bill posted. I sure some nerfs and buffs are coming our way. Melee needs a buff. Hopefully any mage mage nerfs are minor. Archers just need easier arrows.

[Dreadstone]

The "Minus 1 minute in the Shroud" is easily offset with abilities and potions.

Technically (with a certain perk), if you kill fast and often enough, you can stay in the Shroud indefinitely if using the right weapons.

[JohnnyGreenthumb420]

Originally posted by MistrBill:

I've got stacks of elixir I've never used because, yuck. I guess I'm more of a role player than I thought.

It seems to me that using Elixir should come with bigger penalties, even stacking penalties for each successive time you use it. The -1 minute in the shroud is nuthin, and since this Elixir is the cause of all this worlds awfulness, you'd think it would be a big deal to use it.

Where do you find the most elixir?