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But you should find better weapons just by exploring.
I am still clueless then, as I said I can´t get past that red shroud, maybe there is a way over somewhere. Will check that next time, my brain is mush right now
Upgrading my altar helped with a part of my question. But the copper thing I have finally found out now. I went to unlock fast travel in the ancient spire in Revelwood and inside there I looted a copper ingot. That unlocked the quest for me... So there you have it. Thanks for the replies all!