This isn't a survival game.

[noodles]

This game got recommended to me because I have Valhiem and Rust, hell Palworld has more survival aspects than Enshrouded does. So I got this game thinking it would be a great survival action game I can play. The game is great, don't get me wrong, it's good as an open world co-op action rpg. Without the features that would make it a "survival" game I think they should change the wording on the steam page.

I've played the game for over 20 hours and at 10 hours in I started to wonder where the survival part is and only then i started looking online about it only to found out that there isn't an survival, at the moment. Even though it might be implemented later on I feel like it's a bit of a scam to advertise the game as Open World Survival without any survival.

[CushyCrux]

also there is a reason because modern games do that anymore, - it is no fun.

Publicado originalmente por dustin1280:

Most people that say this isn't a survival game are looking for two things and two things only:
1. Death by hunger/thirst ( though in this game you will get one shot later if you DON'T eat, and run out of stamina without drinks)
2. Base raids

People like that choose to be willfully ignorant of what the "survival" genre actually encompasses and because those two features alone are not identical to what they believe a survival game is, they make posts like this.

Alternatively it's just a troll.

also there is a reason because modern games do that anymore, - it is no fun to play.

[donut32]

Publicado originalmente por onebit:

I think it's more RPG than survival. The game guide your steps with quests.

In Valheim they just tell you there's some big monsters out there, good luck!

lol what, the little bird literally pops up 30 times to explain the game to you.

[JiveTurkey]

Publicado originalmente por Omence072:

Not dying = surviving

Super Mario Bros = survival game confirmed

[finalfantasy]

Publicado originalmente por JiveTurkey:

Publicado originalmente por Omence072:

Not dying = surviving

Super Mario Bros = survival game confirmed

Thank you. Was about to write the same.

Don't know where's the previously "definition" of "survival game/genre" is from, but i think the same way.
For me survival is you need food and water to not starve. Everything you do costs either food or water or both, no matter e.g. you're just building.

Enshrouded doesn't have anything like this. I like the game anyway so far. It's a good rpg/adventure game, but it's not a survival game.
Basically it's like Diablo (2) from 3rd person with more story and crafting. Endless looting for better gear, in opposite to Diablo even for crafting and the environment isn't hostile at all, as long you don't afk in the middle of nowhere or even in a dungeon.

But nowadays it seems to become even more common, that every game where you can die is called "survival".

[MeGa]

They need to add optional base defense mechanics, so its more like a survival, and some weather effects that require you to find shelter, use certain clothes etc = more survival elements

[Kaggy]

Publicado originalmente por finalfantasy:

Publicado originalmente por JiveTurkey:

Super Mario Bros = survival game confirmed

Thank you. Was about to write the same.

Don't know where's the previously "definition" of "survival game/genre" is from, but i think the same way.
For me survival is you need food and water to not starve. Everything you do costs either food or water or both, no matter e.g. you're just building.

Enshrouded doesn't have anything like this. I like the game anyway so far. It's a good rpg/adventure game, but it's not a survival game.
Basically it's like Diablo (2) from 3rd person with more story and crafting. Endless looting for better gear, in opposite to Diablo even for crafting and the environment isn't hostile at all, as long you don't afk in the middle of nowhere or even in a dungeon.

But nowadays it seems to become even more common, that every game where you can die is called "survival".

It literally doesnt matter if you choose to qualify games as the survival genre based on your own thoughts and feelings.
You dont have to actually starve to death in a game for it to be in the survival genre.

You have never played diablo2, or any diablo game, to make such a ridiculous argument

[Subsonic]

If you want a real survival game, try out Vintage Story. It's a minecraft mod turned into its own game because it emphasizes the survival aspects to a much greater degree than other survival games.

This game? It's not really a survival game at heart. It has elements for progression and such but no, you won't starve, die of starvation, get diseases, wounds, sleep depriviation, all that jazz. In this game, much like Valheim, eating/drinking/sleeping provide buffs. Necessary to live since those buffs give you stat padding to help survive in combat, but not required and you won't die by simply not eating.

This game is basically a much more advanced version of their other game, Portal Knights. Fun and all that, but no it's not real survival. More like an action RPG (ARPG).

[Subsonic]

Publicado originalmente por MeGa:

They need to add optional base defense mechanics, so its more like a survival, and some weather effects that require you to find shelter, use certain clothes etc = more survival elements

They don't NEED to do that. You just want that. There's a place to put in your suggestions and the community can upvote the ones they like. I'd recommend doing that, or checking the list and upvoting the elements you want to see in the game--related to this thread, the survival elements.

This game is a much more advanced Portal Knights--the previous game from the developer. It's fun as well and supports base building, progression and such, but it's not a survival game.

[finalfantasy]

Publicado originalmente por Kaggy:

It literally doesnt matter if you choose to qualify games as the survival genre based on your own thoughts and feelings.

But i can and will.

Publicado originalmente por Kaggy:

You dont have to actually starve to death in a game for it to be in the survival genre.

But what? You can probably die?
What makes a survival game survival in your oppinion?
Do you even have an own opinion, because you are just ranting but not saying anything.

Publicado originalmente por Kaggy:

You have never played diablo2, or any diablo game, to make such a ridiculous argument

Luckily Diablo (2) didn't have a playtime counter. It would propably give me depressions seeing how many thousands of hours i spent into this game. :D

[Eightball]

Survival games as a whole fall on a continuum so to try and generalize can become problematic. From games like the Long Dark to Grounded to Subnautica.

I would consider this game as survival 'lite', which is not a bad thing.

For many what adds more survival to their survival games are things like substantial risk vs. reward mechanics, limited resources and ever present threats, be those environmental (like weather) or mob driven (not the mere presence of mobs, but the chance those mobs will take the offensive against you and not merely wait for you to come to them).

When things like shelter become a necessity for survival as opposed to a nicety. When hard choices have to be made on what to craft or build because resources are limited. When there has to be forward planning done on the part of the player to ensure they have what they need to sustain themselves in the future. When heading into a new biome/area requires some focused preparation if just because of potential environmental threats.

Do I have the proper clothing for the mountains? Do I have enough food and ammunition for this outing? If I can't get back to my base by nightfall, or if there is a storm, am I prepared? Is it worth fighting that mob or is retreat the better option. Am I ready to venture into the next valley, over that ocean or across that mountain range and into the unknown?

Impactful player choices.

And it is the weight of those choices that, at least for me, determines where a survival game falls on the survival continuum.

[Kaggy]

Publicado originalmente por finalfantasy:

Publicado originalmente por Kaggy:

It literally doesnt matter if you choose to qualify games as the survival genre based on your own thoughts and feelings.

But i can and will.

Publicado originalmente por Kaggy:

You dont have to actually starve to death in a game for it to be in the survival genre.

But what? You can probably die?
What makes a survival game survival in your oppinion?
Do you even have an own opinion, because you are just ranting but not saying anything.

Publicado originalmente por Kaggy:

You have never played diablo2, or any diablo game, to make such a ridiculous argument

Luckily Diablo didn't have a playtime counter. I'd give me depressions seeing how many thousands of hours i spent into this game.

Yes genius, no one said you cant decide to rewrite what makes up a genre in your head.

You are free to google what the survival definition is, we dont have to guess, or in your case make it up as you go to gatekeep.

I dont remotely believe you about diablo when you so idiotically compared this game to d2,lol
Frankly, no one whos ever played diablo 2 or other diablos would believe you had with that comment.

[Theta]

Publicado originalmente por finalfantasy:

Publicado originalmente por JiveTurkey:

Super Mario Bros = survival game confirmed

Thank you. Was about to write the same.

Don't know where's the previously "definition" of "survival game/genre" is from, but i think the same way.
For me survival is you need food and water to not starve. Everything you do costs either food or water or both, no matter e.g. you're just building.

Enshrouded doesn't have anything like this. I like the game anyway so far. It's a good rpg/adventure game, but it's not a survival game.
Basically it's like Diablo (2) from 3rd person with more story and crafting. Endless looting for better gear, in opposite to Diablo even for crafting and the environment isn't hostile at all, as long you don't afk in the middle of nowhere or even in a dungeon.

But nowadays it seems to become even more common, that every game where you can die is called "survival".

lol. Not smart. "Basically like diablo." Ive heard more intelligent arguments from 5 yr olds.

[$$Billionaire Trash$$]

Publicado originalmente por onebit:

I think it's more RPG than survival. The game guide your steps with quests.

In Valheim they just tell you there's some big monsters out there, good luck!

Valheim is barebones

[finalfantasy]

Ok, i'm out here. Just seeing people with a horizon of radius zero around their own position.
I've seen 5 year old that are even more capable of discussing. And even more 5 old, not beeing able to discuss at all but just ranting if someone says anything what is not their exact point of view.
I have no need to deal with such toxic people.

[Kaggy]

Publicado originalmente por finalfantasy:

Ok, i'm out here. Just seeing people with a horizon of radius zero around their own position.
I've seen 5 year old that are even more capable of discussing. And even more 5 old, not beeing able to discuss at all but just ranting if someone says anything what is not their exact point of view.
I have no need to deal with such toxic people.

Dude, its not toxic to point out that your personal definition of something, is not the actual definition.
Just saying.

But goodbye