My 5 cents

[VaeliusNoctu]

Hello,

The dinosaurs are cute, etc., but if I'm honest, everything seems so early EA status.

4 residents in the city and two generic NPCs who always walk the same route. Three areas? I mean they can be big, but the way it looks (worldmap) the map seems to be rather small to medium sized.

At the moment it looks like there is not much content. As far as I understand it, the game is coming out as a full version and not in EA, so no additional areas are to be expected, I guess.

Am I assessing this correctly or have I overlooked something?


Greetz

VN

[idlefree]

I am very hesitant to buy this game. I don't think there is enough content to remotely provide even 20 hours of game-play.

I recommend waiting maybe 1 or 2 weeks after release before buying it but only if your super tight on money and want to be 100% sure about your purchase. Personally I plan to check out some of the twitch.tv streamers and see how much content the other zones have.

I have fallen to this trap before where they provide a demo showing 1 part of the game and you pay and find out there isn't much content what-so-ever when it releases. So waiting it out is a great option if on the fence.

[VaeliusNoctu]

There are increasing signs that it is a very small game.

The dinosaurs that level up just get more stamina, that's it. Once you reach a certain level of confidence, some can be ridden. But that was it.

The character doesn't level up and doesn't seem to have any skills or anything.

The part of the map you have access to is tiny. Even the farm is rather small. The city is tiny.

There are, so far, only 3 plants in the open world and 1 flower. It seems like there are 3-4 plants to grow for each of the 3 "seasons".

If it were EA this would be a very early stage of EA. But they explicitly say that this game doesn't start in EA so it's finished.

If I didn't love games of this kind and dinosaurs so much, I wouldn't even consider buying it, I would just leave it lying around for a month and check the playing time in the reviews and read the reviews.

But even as an absolute farm and dinosaur fan, I won't buy this blindly. I need more information beforehand. I don't spend €25 on a game that lasts 20 hours or less.

[Stardog765]

Yes game looks really interesting but I have been bitten by this too many times. For sure a big time wait and see for me.

[AXIOS]

For a game that has been in development for around 4 years it seems like it’s lacking content, I’m just holding back being cautiously optimistic. The game looks like a generic farming game, it’s selling point are the dinosaurs that don’t even seem that worthwhile. The customization seems non-existant, which is troubling for a game like this when compared to other games in the genre. Hearing the devs say “if the game does well” to basic features that should be included and talks of “dlc” so soon just seem troubling. I guess we’ll see the full picture on release, I hope the game isn’t a steaming pile of dinosaur ♥♥♥♥.

[VaeliusNoctu]

Originally posted by AXIOS:

For a game that has been in development for around 4 years it seems like it’s lacking content, I’m just holding back being cautiously optimistic. The game looks like a generic farming game, it’s selling point are the dinosaurs that don’t even seem that worthwhile. The customization seems non-existant, which is troubling for a game like this when compared to games like Dinkum and Stardew. Hearing the devs say “if the game does well” to basic features that should be included and talks of “dlc”so soon just seem troubling. I guess we’ll see the full picture on release, I hope the game isn’t a steaming pile of dinosaur ♥♥♥♥.

4 Jears? Thx for the warning. I tought the same, Selling Point Dinos for the Reason the Rest is very Basic and Generic. The Game have its Charm but 25€? Better 10€.

[AXIOS]

Originally posted by VaeliusNoctu:

Originally posted by AXIOS:

For a game that has been in development for around 4 years it seems like it’s lacking content, I’m just holding back being cautiously optimistic. The game looks like a generic farming game, it’s selling point are the dinosaurs that don’t even seem that worthwhile. The customization seems non-existant, which is troubling for a game like this when compared to games like Dinkum and Stardew. Hearing the devs say “if the game does well” to basic features that should be included and talks of “dlc”so soon just seem troubling. I guess we’ll see the full picture on release, I hope the game isn’t a steaming pile of dinosaur ♥♥♥♥.

4 Jears? Thx for the warning. I tought the same, Selling Point Dinos for the Reason the Rest is very Basic and Generic. The Game have its Charm but 25€? Better 10€.

I’d just seriously look at reviews and gameplay at release before considering buying. Give it a few days, maybe even a week just to make a informed decision. I don’t think it’s worth it as of now, but again we’ll see with the full package. I won’t argue much against the price tag, at least they aren’t charging triple AAA pricing for this.

[susiesmith13]

The actual game has many more areas than the demo. There are more NCPs as well. The demo is meant to give you a taste of what the game is going to be like. Demos don't ever contain the whole game or show everything that's in the game.

The devs have talked about the game, made videos of them playing the game, and even had live Q&As about the game. They have explained that there is a great deal more than what is on the demo. We will see new dinos, new colors for the dinos, be able to open new areas and meet new people. You can find more information and the videos on their website or talk to the devs directly on Discord.

[VaeliusNoctu]

Originally posted by susiesmith13:

The actual game has many more areas than the demo. There are more NCPs as well. The demo is meant to give you a taste of what the game is going to be like. Demos don't ever contain the whole game or show everything that's in the game.

The devs have talked about the game, made videos of them playing the game, and even had live Q&As about the game. They have explained that there is a great deal more than what is on the demo. We will see new dinos, new colors for the dinos, be able to open new areas and meet new people. You can find more information and the videos on their website or talk to the devs directly on Discord.

Quote from Developer:

- In the full game, you can visit 3 areas: valley, forest, and desert.
- There will be 38 species on launch.

So its clear what the game have in the full Version. 3 Areas are not very much depending on how big this areas will be. 38 Dino Species sounds much nothing to complain here. NPCs i read/found nothing about atm.

EDIT: I Explored the Website with more caution. The only new things i found was that the game contains festivals.

[Zaffira]

Usually if developers see many people buy game, they increase content ingame no? So if less people buy they will think people are not interested.

[VaeliusNoctu]

Originally posted by Zaffira:

Usually if developers see many people buy game, they increase content ingame no? So if less people buy they will think people are not interested.

Does not work like that.

You can't release a game with little content if that's the case here and expect customers to buy in the hope that the developers will then expand the game for free after they have the money. Sorry, but only stupid people buy a pig in a poke.

This happens with games that have been in EA for years and where customers have been playing the game for years and know that a big update comes every 2-3 months and you can therefore rely on it.

This was the case with Starbound, for example, where we knew from experience that the content would be supplied en masse. I was happy to invest there.

But this game is already finished and not in EA. Buying the game in good faith in the hope that it will be significantly expanded is stupid when the developers themselves say that the content published on September 26th is the entire game. Developers hinted that there could possibly be DLCs if there is enough interest, but to say otherwise would be stupid of a developer and DLCs also cost money.^^

Therefore there must be enough content for full realese tomorrow. Not hopefully, maybe someday.

But as I said, I hope the content justifies the €25 because I like the dinosaurs.^^

I just hope that I can hold back and not be one of the stupid people who buy in the hope that it's really good and big enough. I'm such a dinosaur fan that it really excites me.^^

[XxX I Am The Rage XxX]

Originally posted by VaeliusNoctu:

But this game is already finished and not in EA. Buying the game in good faith in the hope that it will be significantly expanded is stupid when the developers themselves say that the content published on September 26th is the entire game. Developers hinted that there could possibly be DLCs if there is enough interest, but to say otherwise would be stupid of a developer and DLCs also cost money.^^

Therefore there must be enough content for full realese tomorrow. Not hopefully, maybe someday.

The devs not releasing dlc due to not generating enough income on release is a copout. It says, 'Show us the money or go home'. I have a feeling this game is going to be very short and is not going to be worth the asking price either. I hope I'm wrong for people who buy it and hoping those who do can actually enjoy it, but I'm not holding my breath on it being a great game. I will wait for reviews and then justify if it's worth buying at full price, on sale or at all. And I hope the stamina mechanic isn't super annoying as I have found it to be quite annoying in other games.

[MSilverS]

I feel that ultimately it'll depend on what people prefer. Their main selling point for me is the Dinosaurs, their skin variations and personalities, not the interactions with the towns people or a bunch of different locations so its definitely not a huge deal for me. Of course people may prefer those things so it will end up being disappointing. They did outright confirm themselves that if the game sells well they will add more of the stuff that they couldn't due to time and monetary constraints as this game is only invested to a point and is not a crowdfunded project. Throughout the few years of development they have lost an investor or two as well so that did impact development time. I definitely understand the concern though and hope that if the game does release in a terribly bare state that they'll release more content to the base game to compensate for so with the money they get from sales.

[Elsina Yumaiya]

I think complaining about the game based off of the demo is being disingenuous.
Its a demo. It isn't going to contain the entirety of the game within it and is meant to give you an idea of the gameplay. You can tell, because the number of species in the demo is nowhere near what the devs have stated will be available in the main game.

Tomorrow it releases as a full fledged game.
The devs mentioning the possibility of DLC is not a promise, but rather something they would be willing to look into doing if they make enough money off the game. To create DLC will cost them money. If their game sells well, there is a motivation to provide more content. If it isn't selling well, why would they make content for a game no one is buying? Especially if they make the DLC free... they could very much be making that content at a loss which isn't a good move for any business.

Also, the dinos are useful companions to clear land, tilling land, watering crops, travel, and etc. That alone makes this very unique and charming compared to other games. They aren't just pretty set pieces or used for animal byproducts (from what the demo has shown so far...).

I have played the demo for six hours and feel like I have barely scratched the surface of what the game has to offer. There were still areas on the starting map I hadn't been able to go to yet, not to mention any of the other full areas! There were still things I had yet to discover and quests to even finish before I ran out of time.

The asking price of the game I feel is going to be worth the cost for the charming quality and unique aspects the game is bringing to the cozy game genre. If you are on the fence, just wait until reviews come out. Josh's Gaming Garden, TagBack, Sharky, and other streamers/youtubers I can bet you will be playing tomorrow and providing their initial impressions.

[VaeliusNoctu]

The areas blocked by stones are the new areas. The map you see is the entire world map. Nothing more is coming at the moment.

For example, the forest is behind the boulder that is, well, near the forest, which you are supposed to clear away for “Grandma”. That's why the demo stops when you want to run into the forest after removing the stone. The forest is just a tiny corner on the world map.

The desert is where you remove the stone and the desert is almost as big as the player's farm. A little smaller than the forest.

There are still tiny areas that are blocked by rocks or tree trunks and where after opening you can find a dream stone or a few plants etc. That's it.

You can already see the areas in the demo. You can't walk in, but they are so small that you can see the end of the map even from the entrance. Not quite in the forest, as the path curves and trees block the view.

There is a small possibility that I am wrong and the new areas that I have unlocked are just transitional areas that form the entrance to a completely new map: So you go into the new area, walk to the edge of the map, a loading bar appears and I then land on a completely new map which is then the forest/desert. But I don't think so. But then you would be right that it is not yet possible to know how big the new areas actually are.

What is unknown: 3 NPCs, 5 recipes and tons of dinosaurs, plants, artifacts, historical places and natural features. You can see everything in the journal, just explore it in the full version. It'll definitely be cool.

But I have to give the team credit for laying their cards on the table. You can estimate what it offers in the full version.

I hope I'm wrong and that the forest/desert isn't just the tiny areas on the world map, that would be super boring.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

It seems to be dinosaur collecting game and every other aspect of cozy/farming game like this seem to be very underdeveloped or just non-existing. You cant even enter your house.
Also tiniest inventory I have seen in games like this, guess because there is not much stuff to collect in the first place.
Gone wait for some actual reviews about this.