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Like Warhammer 40k all you want but this is starship troopers, you all have your own lore etc. Starship troopers is far less over the top than Warhammer, nothing wrong with it and to be honest its a lot more realistic and grounded than Warhammer as well. 40k is cool but other games and lore don't need be similar.
On the one hand, you're right, but what if units of fighters were trained on special planets within the framework of the climate and certain characteristics of local beetles. And just such a unit could be jungle fighters who would not have lived on their battle tactics on another world for 10 minutes, but on their native or similar ones they give beetles a good rebuff, because the jungle, for example, deprives beetles of their already not too great mobility, and at this time jungle fighters with quick jerks cut the creatures into pieces parts and in order to somehow evade the attacks of beetles, they lose all their armor. Yes, they die by accident or by mistake anyway. Yes, they are killed from a distance, but these guys still go into close combat and show the beetles their place, because this is effective for some species of beetles. Well, it does not seem to me that such a doctrine of fighters is something supernatural, since they use the most effective methods in their opinion.
It is still close combat, hand to hand combat is something different or do you expect to fight without weapons, biting the chitin open and launch himself into the beast to rip their organs out?
Also you claimed a trooper never could done that, Rico did it so it happend once (and he was a trooper at that point).
Pure melee wouldn´t be far off either, troopers get limbs replaced with robotics, why not use the technology as a weapon? We already have power suits, give them melee options.
sir... the bushes are moving closer
What i would like more, is missions when you control the bugs, maybe even vs mode, common devs, one mod guy showed us it can be done and it can be amazing fun!
I expected the jungle/tropical or snow/ice enviroment for hypothetecal new addon.
With the jungle / tropical enviroment, I guessed some amphibious or naval units - for both MI and Bugs ,
I founded Water Tiger on ST fandom, so I expected something that
https://starshiptroopers.fandom.com/wiki/Water_Tiger
Put your hand up against the wall
The water tiger is a common bug in the ST Chronicles animated show, though mostly on the aquatic planet. The jungle planet mostly featured actual jumping spiders. There was also an ice planet, or rather an asteroid that wasn't what it appeared to be.
Relating to the rest of these comments you guys are really digging hard into this poor user's wishes. XD If I want rainbow Mario Superstar invincible troopers then let it be. That is definitely silly, though.
-Since we're all taking shots at the user's wishes, I'LL TAKE MY SHOTS TOO!
Bugs have been killed in close combat without the use of guns primarily a few times.
In Traitor of Mars: Rico kills a single Warrior Bug 1-1 with a knife. (LOL)
In Invasion, Rico uses the MKII-Marauder which is equipped with chainsaws. Needless to say Chainsaw isn't a gun. In an extraordinarily unbelievable twist of fate I still can't believe the writers thought was cool to put in, Chow kicks a Warrior Bug... and it dies. He literally beats the crap out of a Warrior Bug and it died in that sense. Absolutely bogus. There was no point in the scene, either, because he died 3 seconds later by a drive-by Warrior. XD
In Starship Troopers: Dizzy kills a Tanker Bug by throwing a grenade in it's mouth. Alternatively, Rico also kills a Tanker Bug in close quarters but does huge his gun so that might not count.
Almost every Control Bug known to man has died with melee weapons.
I'm not saying we can't be unique and come up with new ideas but all of these situations warrant extreme, resorting tactics and are not covered in any military training and expected to be used. A knife is used in crucial settings when a gun is not available in the Starship Troopers universe. There's been no known trooper to use a knife as a weapon of choice because all of the lore in Starship Troopers have stated time and time again that this method is inefficient. Quite frankly, it wouldn't be Starship Troopers at all if human casualties were less likely. That's what makes us love John Rico so much because he lives to see the next day despite unbelievable odds where little platoons are sent to fend off against hundreds and hundreds of bugs. Point being, it would make little sense to have a trooper's class be defined by a scenario that works not even 2% of the time. The times where it DID work out was apart of the 2% of the time, which means that if someone decided to have a knife as a weapon, they'd have been dead long ago. XD
Either way, I'm more about preserving the Starship Troopers feeling and aesthetic, not changing it. I like it the way it is so, please, no knife users. XD Same reason we don't have troopers hovering slightly over the ground in flying ships just out of bugs' reach shooting at them and we only see ships and bombing runs get used rarely, even though we clearly have ships and they don't meaning Bugs shouldn't even get such a high body count ever: It wouldn't be Starship Troopers without troopers in boots marching on the ground getting torn up by bugs.