BRING CO-OP TO THE GAME!

[Irish Panda]

Hi Devs, you should bring Co-Op to the game. You should bring the game to the next level. Surviving waves of bugs with a fellow trooper!

[Grulemugg]

No coop no buy.
DO YOU GET ME?

[Ross Mahon]

Coop. WE GET YOU SIR!

[Ðëprávèd•Mïšçréånt]

+1

[💖⎛⎝Silver Knight⎠⎞]

Starcraft 2 mods or warcraft 3

[die-wc-ente]

Still no skirmish or multiplayer mode available ?

[Spy Boy]

Well, I see it on sale now and I am thinking about getting it. Co-Op would be good but I still think we must support RTS developers. I don't need to remind you that RTS games have complicated times now.

[Zakalwe]

Originally posted by die-wc-ente:

Still no skirmish or multiplayer mode available ?

Yes! I'd be all over this if it had skirmish. What gives?

[Vovin]

Originally posted by Baldur93:

Well, I see it on sale now and I am thinking about getting it. Co-Op would be good but I still think we must support RTS developers. I don't need to remind you that RTS games have complicated times now.

It's worth it overall. Co-op would be awesome but I doubt that is planned for this game.

[black Harlekin]

Originally posted by Vovin:

Originally posted by Baldur93:

Well, I see it on sale now and I am thinking about getting it. Co-Op would be good but I still think we must support RTS developers. I don't need to remind you that RTS games have complicated times now.

It's worth it overall. Co-op would be awesome but I doubt that is planned for this game.

not really, only 30% of RTS gamers even touch multiplayer in other games.

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by black Harlekin:

Originally posted by Vovin:

It's worth it overall. Co-op would be awesome but I doubt that is planned for this game.

not really, only 30% of RTS gamers even touch multiplayer in other games.

and only 10% of RTS players complete Single player campaign

[black Harlekin]

Originally posted by Lotor13:

Originally posted by black Harlekin:

not really, only 30% of RTS gamers even touch multiplayer in other games.

and only 10% of RTS players complete Single player campaign

and your point is? And let me guess, you get your numbers from global Steam achivements where games exists with with no Achivements or achivements that got added with an update later (and single player was finished by players already and the moved on).
Maybe they didn´t finished the game cause it had to much focus on MP and hadn´t a fun campaign (common problem with RTS in the last years C&C4 or DoW3 as example).

But at least all of them tipped their toe in Single player, what is still higher than the people who booted up MP.

Steam Achivements are not a real good source for the player behavior.

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by black Harlekin:

Originally posted by Lotor13:

and only 10% of RTS players complete Single player campaign

and your point is?

I think, that You want to point, that multiplayer is not important for RTS (actually is) and majority of RTS players play singleplayer

Originally posted by black Harlekin:

And let me guess, you get your numbers from global Steam achivements where games exists with with no Achivements or achivements that got added with an update later (and single player was finished by players already and the moved on).
Maybe they didn´t finished the game cause it had to much focus on MP and hadn´t a fun campaign (common problem with RTS in the last years C&C4 or DoW3 as example).

But at least all of them tipped their toe in Single player, what is still higher than the people who booted up MP.

Steam Achivements are not a real good source for the player behavior.

I do not know Your source of data, that show 30% of players playing MP (which game BTW?)

Steam Achivements are not perfect, but best what is public, and clearly shows, that many people just own the game, but not playing it in general, neither SP or MP

[black Harlekin]

Originally posted by Lotor13:

Originally posted by black Harlekin:

and your point is?

I think, that You want to point, that multiplayer is not important for RTS (actually is) and majority of RTS players play singleplayer

Originally posted by black Harlekin:

And let me guess, you get your numbers from global Steam achivements where games exists with with no Achivements or achivements that got added with an update later (and single player was finished by players already and the moved on).
Maybe they didn´t finished the game cause it had to much focus on MP and hadn´t a fun campaign (common problem with RTS in the last years C&C4 or DoW3 as example).

But at least all of them tipped their toe in Single player, what is still higher than the people who booted up MP.

Steam Achivements are not a real good source for the player behavior.

I do not know Your source of data, that show 30% of players playing MP (which game BTW?)

Steam Achivements are not perfect, but best what is public, and clearly shows, that many people just own the game, but not playing it in general, neither SP or MP

Here is my sourche of data : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehNK7UpZsc
He is known for RTS Games in general and shows clearly what the community wants from a RTS game and how disconnected Developers are (a good example is when Blizzard stated they where completly suprised by the success of coop mode when everypody seems to have their eyes on pvp).

And be honest to yourself, how many games do you have in your libary that you buyed but never touched? For Steam it is a non-argmument with two sales in one week is the norm, many people just pick a game off cause there is a high % sale on it.

[Lotor13]

Originally posted by black Harlekin:

Originally posted by Lotor13:

I think, that You want to point, that multiplayer is not important for RTS (actually is) and majority of RTS players play singleplayer
.....
I do not know Your source of data, that show 30% of players playing MP (which game BTW?)
....

Here is my sourche of data : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehNK7UpZsc
He is known for RTS Games in general and shows clearly what the community wants from a RTS game and how disconnected Developers are (a good example is when Blizzard stated they where completly suprised by the success of coop mode when everypody seems to have their eyes on pvp).

A Youtuber...
With all respect, it is just his opinion, not a fact.
You would need a real data, which are probably not public

I also know RTS very well.
You can see how the RTS with active MP scene are successful - Age of Empires 2, Starcraft 2, Dawn of War 2, Company of Heroes 2,

Blizzard is a own specific case, extremely successful game company, which hardly failed, I guess, it is not about co-op vs PvP modes, but about "managment", who disconnected with players

Originally posted by black Harlekin:

And be honest to yourself, how many games do you have in your libary that you buyed but never touched? For Steam it is a non-argmument with two sales in one week is the norm, many people just pick a game off cause there is a high % sale on it.

Of course, I have, some I bought in discount, some are ready for right time (Desperados 3), anyway I do not blame people foe not playing the games.

If We want to determine statistics, we need to take into consideration, that many people just own the game, so we need to distinguish between "owners" and "active players". That is the point here

[black Harlekin]

Originally posted by Lotor13:

Originally posted by black Harlekin:

Here is my sourche of data : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XehNK7UpZsc
He is known for RTS Games in general and shows clearly what the community wants from a RTS game and how disconnected Developers are (a good example is when Blizzard stated they where completly suprised by the success of coop mode when everypody seems to have their eyes on pvp).

A Youtuber...
With all respect, it is just his opinion, not a fact.
You would need a real data, which are probably not public

I also know RTS very well.
You can see how the RTS with active MP scene are successful - Age of Empires 2, Starcraft 2, Dawn of War 2, Company of Heroes 2,

Blizzard is a own specific case, extremely successful game company, which hardly failed, I guess, it is not about co-op vs PvP modes, but about "managment", who disconnected with players

Originally posted by black Harlekin:

And be honest to yourself, how many games do you have in your libary that you buyed but never touched? For Steam it is a non-argmument with two sales in one week is the norm, many people just pick a game off cause there is a high % sale on it.

Of course, I have, some I bought in discount, some are ready for right time (Desperados 3), anyway I do not blame people foe not playing the games.

If We want to determine statistics, we need to take into consideration, that many people just own the game, so we need to distinguish between "owners" and "active players". That is the point here

Yeah, a youtuber who did a big poll within the community, he has Data. Maybe check before you asume anything.
Until then we are done talking.