RIP Panzer Corps 2

[Legatus]

Is it just me or do you guys also share my opinion that Strategic mind Blitzkrieg just buried Panzer Corps 2?

[Sgt. Steiner]

Yes, and I have only played the tutorials!

PC2 does have "legs" due to the editor and skirmish. Still, I agree. This game even runs better despite being more graphically intensive.

[Problem Solver]

I think both games are good in their own way. If only Panzer Corps 2 can create a grand campaign like in the 1st game.

Just finished the France mission and only encountered a few minor glitches. The cut scenes are a great addition between battles.

Having played panzer strategy i was a bit concerned if this title would be what was promised. So far i would say the developer has delivered. Looking forward to playing the rest of the game.

[FUUKamikazeFUU]

true,,,its just in any case better (only the sequences are most weird thing ive ever seen)

[bcnkor]

Originally posted by Legatus:

Is it just me or do you guys also share my opinion that Strategic mind Blitzkrieg just buried Panzer Corps 2?

Strategic Mind: Blitzkrieg: It is not a rip from the Panzer Corps 2 but it is pretty close.
Strategic Mind: Blitzkrieg has a more realistic supply, better graphics, real equipment units, special abilities, real aircraft carrier options with graphics on track and animation even at airfields, best primary and secondary objectives in the campaign.

Panzer Corps 2 the only very good thing is the change of camouflage, a good zoom and an easy stage editor, otherwise very flow than expected, it is a bad purchase, in addition to a bad forum service to people and modders.

[Legatus]

I got Bored of PzC 2 very fast, but i cant get enough of Strategic Mind.

[caroraim]

Originally posted by bcnkor:

Originally posted by Legatus:

Is it just me or do you guys also share my opinion that Strategic mind Blitzkrieg just buried Panzer Corps 2?

Strategic Mind: Blitzkrieg: It is not a rip from the Panzer Corps 2 but it is pretty close.
Strategic Mind: Blitzkrieg has a more realistic supply, better graphics, real equipment units, special abilities, real aircraft carrier options with graphics on track and animation even at airfields, best primary and secondary objectives in the campaign.

Panzer Corps 2 the only very good thing is the change of camouflage, a good zoom and an easy stage editor, otherwise very flow than expected, it is a bad purchase, in addition to a bad forum service to people and modders.

I think the camo thing is cool, but it is desperately missing the killer mods that endeared the first one. It's hard to imagine that they didnt make it more community friendly.

[Night_Phoenix]

Definitely agree, first hour of strategy mind: Blitzkrieg already gave me more excitement than all of the time i put into Panzer corps 2. It's all about storytelling. Panzer corps 2 gives the vibe of just doing chores, failing to immerse me into the war.

[Steevodeevo]

I like them both but right now I find myself logging into SM all the time when faced with the choice :)

I would say SM really needs a major debugging and polishing before I wqould say iot is a PK2 winner.

[Tucsonbandit]

I just can't believe you guys think this game looks good. I honestly can't even play the game because its painful to look at. WTF. The colors, its god awful.

[Warriordude]

I like this game, just hurts my eyes trying to find my own units on the battlefield, kills the gaming experience for me sadly. PC2 is a pretty good game and will get better with DLC's planned next month, my opinion prefer PC2 but also like the details of this game. I haven't been able to make the units bigger on the battlefield, that would be a game changer for me, PC2 has that option not this game that I can see. I tried to get into this game but can't, since units all look the same to me enemy and allies, until they can fix this problem I'm going back to PC2 unfortunately.

[Steevodeevo]

Originally posted by Warriordude:

I like this game, just hurts my eyes trying to find my own units on the battlefield, kills the gaming experience for me sadly. PC2 is a pretty good game and will get better with DLC's planned next month, my opinion prefer PC2 but also like the details of this game. I haven't been able to make the units bigger on the battlefield, that would be a game changer for me, PC2 has that option not this game that I can see. I tried to get into this game but can't, since units all look the same to me enemy and allies, until they can fix this problem I'm going back to PC2 unfortunately.

In my view, 'If' the Devs can create an option to 'fade out' the Info overlay in SM: Blitzkrieg, but not loose it as the info is awesome, plus they can offer some system to their already excellent unit modification interface to add camo options, then I think the game is best in class at that point. But it is a big 'if'..

[Blade]

Yeah, I don't know which game "inspired" which, but the strategic mind implementation is way better. Even the pricing is more friendly.
I remember asking for features like capital ship detail in the PC2 forum around the year ago - and finding exactly what we wanted in strategic mind.

[Steevodeevo]

The '+' of Panzer Corps 2 for me is the new Axis missions expansions. The map scale for them is excellent. The scale is uncommon in that it is between Strategic and Tactical, but they vary it well to represents the major historic battles it attempts to illustrate in terms of challenge and tactics. I'm not saying SM games doesn't have this, It does to an extent, it is the other game that best represents the theatre scale required for battle representations. It is not, like PC2 and others, a Strategic Theatre sim and doesn't pretend to be.

The '+' for Strategic Mind is its level of detail. I've played no other wargame outside of the classic hardcore games from Grigsby, Koger and co. that attempts to deliver a fun gaming experience but also attempts to represent the strategic and tactical challenges of the specific scenario. This is both its blessing and the curse of SM, depending on what you are looking for. Gamers looking for a straight forward RTS are gonna curse it, War Gamers, may well like it, as I do.

For me however the biggest drawback of the SM Series is the tactical and movement overlay. It is way too bright and garish and puts many people right off before they even get their heads around the game.

Now that we have a modding community, I would love to see an offering that fades back the tactics and movement overlay so that it doesn't obscure the lovely models and 3-D terrain but retains the value the overlay adds.

[caroraim]

Unfortunately, neither game compares to PC1. SMB is awesome, but Tucsonbandit is right on the map critique...it's pretty but it makes it very hard to see whats happening and makes larger armies a real chore to operate. PC2 is awesome, but the missions suck as Night Phoenix says. It just doesn't feel immersive at all, likewise making it a chore. I wish you could have the SMB campaign with PC2's more conducive graphics.

[Killer Rabbit]

Originally posted by caroraim:

Unfortunately, neither game compares to PC1. SMB is awesome, but Tucsonbandit is right on the map critique...it's pretty but it makes it very hard to see whats happening and makes larger armies a real chore to operate. PC2 is awesome, but the missions suck as Night Phoenix says. It just doesn't feel immersive at all, likewise making it a chore. I wish you could have the SMB campaign with PC2's more conducive graphics.

This is spot on.

I really like this game but the night turns are killing my enthusiasm to play the game. Whenever it's night, I'm at the point of just wanting to skip the entire turn. That and the map overlay.