Tainted Grail
Fortytudo Jan 4, 2022 @ 6:14pm
Death has ruined the story for me.
Now, I have to admit - this game has a pretty good story for a roguelike/lite despite utilising the same overused concept of Infinite Loop/Personal Hell type of setting. I like the way you twisted this concept to fit your own narrative without feeling too out of place.

But then along came Death. At first I thought its a Narrator-type of character. You know, Omnipotent, Godlike figure that maintains the balance in the world. But then you made him look like an actual character with his own quirks and personality. The way he talked about humans while simultaneously acting more humane than most of the characters has really put me off. Also when he started talking about "Blueprints" and "Narrative", this felt way too meta for me.

I mean, its Death we are talking about, a faceless, all-powerfull being. And at the same time he sounds so tired of everyones ♥♥♥♥ yet has to keep this reality from collapsing. Why?

He reminds me of Death from Castlevania(The Netflix series) except this Death is an actual God with no reason to act human.

For me personally, Death felt way too out of place in this story. I would prefer to see more of Merlin(and whats the deal with Orrin?) or to see Arthur at least once.
Last edited by Fortytudo; Jan 4, 2022 @ 11:54pm
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Who is Orrin anyway ? o.o
Fortytudo Jan 4, 2022 @ 11:58pm 
Originally posted by Serafima La Yuri In Glamor:
Who is Orrin anyway ? o.o
Im not sure myself. My best guess would be is that hes Merlin who got reincarnated after something bad has happenned. I dont know why he and everyone else who knows Merlin have such deep hatred towards him or at least it seems like it. Im very confused myself.
OlMaltelO Jan 5, 2022 @ 12:32am 
I would argue, since you are in a limbo, some sort of personal hell, it wouldnt be too far fetched assuming “Death” is not really death but rather a manifestation of what you (the character) thinks death would be like. Maybe he’s “real”, but maybe not. So it might just be your (characters) internal struggle of keeping everything in order, like a personification of the subconsciousness?

Anyways. Orrin is Merlins apprentice - he plays a significant role in the board game and I might assume he will also play a part in the Fall of Avalon videogame.
After Merlins disappearance after the age of Conquest Orrin was the only one left that had insights and knowledge about things that Merlin found out - this includes how to utilize Menhirs to dispell Wyrdness. :)
Fortytudo Jan 5, 2022 @ 12:59am 
Originally posted by Thomy013:
I would argue, since you are in a limbo, some sort of personal hell, it wouldnt be too far fetched assuming “Death” is not really death but rather a manifestation of what you (the character) thinks death would be like. Maybe he’s “real”, but maybe not. So it might just be your (characters) internal struggle of keeping everything in order, like a personification of the subconsciousness?
Well, out of all the characters in that limbo, Death seems to be the most "alive". It would be even more disappointing if he was also just a hallucination since all of the tasks he gives you would also be an illusion.

I have a complete distaste towards stories that makes everything irrelevant through "It was just your own imagination" plot point. I simply cannot take such a story seriously and treat it as a waste of time.

But thanks for clearing out info about Orrin. I know nothing about the story outside of this game.
SpookySunday Jan 9, 2022 @ 8:53am 
Originally posted by Fortytudo:
The way he talked about humans while simultaneously acting more humane than most of the characters has really put me off.
To be honest, this is what I really like about that character. But it's a matter of taste, so I understand your point.

I think I enjoyed the Death-character so much, because he reminded me of Death from Terry Pratchett novels. And that is such a good memory.
"I remember when all this will be again."
Rhapture Jan 9, 2022 @ 9:18am 
I've never considered Death as an all-powerful being. He's always had a specific role, collecting the dead and bringing them to the afterlife, whatever or wherever that is in a certain mythology. He never seemed to have the power to kill anyone, but did seem to have the ability to extend their life for a time, or return someone to the living world.
Ending this wyrdness reality might end his whole purpose in the world. Therefore he keeps the final boss alive and you go back and complete his objectives.
Fuinelen Mar 24, 2022 @ 12:47pm 
Like SpookyNooky, I was actually waiting for his horse Binky to appear ;)

I love Terry Pratchett's Death and this one definitely drew from it. Also, the "everybody's gone" talk at the start reminded me a lot of the First Red Dwarf episode (fittingly called "The End"), so I have an inkling that the writers of TC:G enjoy this type of British books and shows ;)
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Date Posted: Jan 4, 2022 @ 6:14pm
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