You locked the classes?

[QuinZ33]

I really enjoyed playing the Pathfinder and the Necromancer in Early Access. I just loaded up the game now that it's released, and all but 3 of the classes are now locked pending "game progression?"

This is a stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mechanic. Force us to play a class we don't enjoy so we can eventually play the class we do?

Ridiculous.

[LionheartVIII8]

They unlock really quickly....just play the game lol.

[RDR]

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

I really enjoyed playing the Pathfinder and the Necromancer in Early Access. I just loaded up the game now that it's released, and all but 3 of the classes are now locked pending "game progression?"

This is a stupid ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mechanic. Force us to play a class we don't enjoy so we can eventually play the class we do?

Ridiculous.

As the other poster said classes unlock pretty quickly.

[QuinZ33]

Originally posted by LionheartVIII8:

They unlock really quickly....just play the game lol.

I unlocked the classes with my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ credit card when I bought the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

[Andycrapped]

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

Originally posted by LionheartVIII8:

They unlock really quickly....just play the game lol.

I unlocked the classes with my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ credit card when I bought the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

Apparently you didnt.

[AdApt*]

Originally posted by Andycrapped:

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

I unlocked the classes with my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ credit card when I bought the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

Apparently you didnt.

^

[QuinZ33]

Originally posted by Andycrapped:

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

I unlocked the classes with my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ credit card when I bought the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

Apparently you didnt.

No, I did. The devs decided to re-lock them.

It doesn't make any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense to take away game play features that I once had.

[Takichi]

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

Originally posted by LionheartVIII8:

They unlock really quickly....just play the game lol.

I unlocked the classes with my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ credit card when I bought the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

You apperantly never heard about the Term "Rouge Like" or you would have known that this means "Not Unlockable through Credit Card but only by Playing" ;)

Btw didnt they take away anything, you had EA, you were supposed to test and Bug Report. EA doesnt mean you got the Game and can keep any progress forever for free..........

[QuinZ33]

Originally posted by Takichi:

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

I unlocked the classes with my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ credit card when I bought the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

You apperantly never heard about the Term "Rouge Like" or you would have known that this means "Not Unlockable through Credit Card but only by Playing" ;)

That's not what the ♥♥♥♥ "rogue like" means.

EA doesnt mean you got the Game and can keep any progress forever for free..........

Free? I paid my ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ money. What do you mean "free?"

[Takichi]

That you got Access to the complete Game, with everything, without even Playing the Game. THats what Free meant. You could Test every Endgame Mechanic, every Card, everything without doing anything for it. Ofc afterwards things become Locked through Progression, like every EVERY GOOD Game does. How ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Boring would every RPG be if you start with every Charakter on Endgame Level with Max Gear.


And YES thats Exactly what Rogue like means. It means "starting with basicly nothing and getting everything through Trial and Error and Playing".

[OlMaltelO]

While locking classes might seem annoying to veterans, its good for people playing for the first time, as they dont need to read through all classes and jump around classes, but stick with one for a while, until they get the hang of the game and make some progress.
As somebody who has played it before, you should have no problem unlocking the first new class. On a full first run w besting the 4th boss you unlock 3 new classes.. so beating the golem should definitely be enough for unlocking the next class - or failing at the golem twice.
And perhaps you should read steamd ToS. You dont own the game. You own the right to download and play it. But you dont actually have any rights regarding its contents - as long as they dont do false advertisement.
And playing the game for an hour to unlock a new class isnt much to ask, really.

[rAaR]

you know you would of unlocked all the classes already by now right? i've never seen someone so angry to have to learn something new before, its not like difficulty 1 should be hard if you already played it and know the basics. you should win quite easily on whatever class you have till you unlock one you like or whatever

i really hope this is just a really bad troll attempt

[QuinZ33]

Originally posted by Takichi:

That you got Access to the complete Game, with everything, without even Playing the Game. THats what Free meant. You could Test every Endgame Mechanic, every Card, everything without doing anything for it. Ofc afterwards things become Locked through Progression, like every EVERY GOOD Game does. How ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Boring would every RPG be if you start with every Charakter on Endgame Level with Max Gear.


And YES thats Exactly what Rogue like means. It means "starting with basicly nothing and getting everything through Trial and Error and Playing".

1) What roguelike locks character classes? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup certainly doesn't. ADOM doesn't.

2) I'm not complaining about not having "max gear" and "max levels." I'm talking about not having the full game playable. The runs would obviously start at level 1 with no gear.

3) This isn't an RPG. It's a tactical card game, like Slay the Spire. I hated the fact that the classes in Slay the Spire were locked at the beginning, but the game was good enough and the classes unlocked quickly enough that I put up with it.

This game just isn't good enough, and there are far more classes, for me to put up with it.

Does anybody know if there's a .ini file to edit to unlock the classes?

[AdApt*]

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

1) What roguelike locks character classes? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup certainly doesn't. ADOM doesn't.

Roguelite card games*
- Slay the Spire.
- Monster Train.
- Gordian Quest.
- Griftlands.
And more.

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

2) I'm not complaining about not having "max gear" and "max levels." I'm talking about not having the full game playable. The runs would obviously start at level 1 with no gear.

And what are you expecting to achieve?

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

3) This isn't an RPG. It's a tactical card game, like Slay the Spire. I hated the fact that the classes in Slay the Spire were locked at the beginning, but the game was good enough and the classes unlocked quickly enough that I put up with it.

The classes in this game unlock far quicker than they did in StS.

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

This game just isn't good enough, and there are far more classes, for me to put up with it.
Does anybody know if there's a .ini file to edit to unlock the classes?

No there isn't. So if it's not good enough and you can't handle the fact that you have to play the game to unlock classes, don't play it.
Whining won't solve anything and no one cares.

/thread

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by QuinZ33:

Originally posted by Takichi:

That you got Access to the complete Game, with everything, without even Playing the Game. THats what Free meant. You could Test every Endgame Mechanic, every Card, everything without doing anything for it. Ofc afterwards things become Locked through Progression, like every EVERY GOOD Game does. How ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Boring would every RPG be if you start with every Charakter on Endgame Level with Max Gear.


And YES thats Exactly what Rogue like means. It means "starting with basicly nothing and getting everything through Trial and Error and Playing".

1) What roguelike locks character classes? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup certainly doesn't. ADOM doesn't.

2) I'm not complaining about not having "max gear" and "max levels." I'm talking about not having the full game playable. The runs would obviously start at level 1 with no gear.

3) This isn't an RPG. It's a tactical card game, like Slay the Spire. I hated the fact that the classes in Slay the Spire were locked at the beginning, but the game was good enough and the classes unlocked quickly enough that I put up with it.

This game just isn't good enough, and there are far more classes, for me to put up with it.

Does anybody know if there's a .ini file to edit to unlock the classes?

There's a lovely catch in the contract of EA games, right there on the page for the game most the time. "All content is subject to change." Playing an EA game has two purposes. One, you have early access to the game for a cheaper price. Two, providing feedback to further develop the game in the positive light of the gamers who purchased it. Basically it boils down to this. You got the content, they let you test it, they decided to lock it for progression and game longevity.

Also, Binding of issac, enter the gungeon, leap of fate, etc. Most rouge like/lite games have progression where you get bigger and better weapons/chars by playing the game and or beating a certain milestone.

The game is fully playable, you just don't have the character/class you want because you haven't hit the new milestone yet.

Doesn't matter if you hate it, it was the route the dev team wanted to take and it serves purposes. It allows you to play the wyrd hunter which is arguably the easiest early on. You'll get cards for your pathfinder and find NPC's that will also help later on. I mean, it took me like 6-8 hours to unlock all the NPC's with no knowledge of the game, you have knowledge, you'll do it in half the time most likely.

[QuinZ33]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Doesn't matter if you hate it,

I mean. it kind of matters to me, a lot.

Originally posted by AdApt*:

Roguelite card games*
- Slay the Spire.
- Monster Train.
- Gordian Quest.
- Griftlands.
And more.

And I hated having to unlock the classes in those games as well (except griftlands... that has no replay value. It's a story game as I remember it).

Here, I thought I wasn't going to have that issue, because when I bought the game, all classes were playable.

StS didn't re-lock the classes I had previously been playing when it exited early access.