Soul harvesters can't be killed by summoners

[Aeonarx]

Soul harvesters need a rework, right now they are impossible to beat for summoners but the necromancer who can turn lich and forcus him hard. On higher difficulties, soul harvesters are unkillable for ordinary summoners and blood summoners if they have 2+ souls to heal off.
The problem is that summoenrs don't have any way to focus a single enemy. There's a redirect card but you might just never get it and if you didn't you just can't do anything.
The problems which makes it unkillable are the following:
1) Too many invincible duds to tank hits
2) He can heal it off
3) He usually has 100+ armor (difficulty 8)
You can't really deal with any of it as a summoner. You don't have reliable ways to strip target enemies off armor or damage the. Wyrm can remove armor eventually, but you can't order them to attack specific enemy, so if an enemy has 2 souls to support him, it's 33% chance for your wyrm to attack him. If they have 4 souls, it's only 20%, and the adomiantion doesn't deal enough damage to outdamage his armor + heal.
You can't prevent this situation either, becausse you can't kill soul harvester first for aforementioned reasons - you can't order your minions to attack a specific enemy. So if a souls harvester ends up with 4 souls at the end of a battle feel free to just alt+f4 because you can't do anything. At bests it will be half and hours slog.
Something should be done about this.

[OlMaltelO]

He can, if you build you deck towards it. Either need redirect of dmg on him, stun him on his lifesteal, increase his allies armor when he lifesteals (or pit barriers on them), and definitely dont rely on wyrms, rather go with abominations. That said, he definitely IS the toughest enemy for summoners, but its not impossible. But he will get a little nerf soon

[Aeonarx]

It is close to impossible to build a deck like this unless you have all upgrades done so you have luxury of chossing any specific cards you want.

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Aeonarx:

It is close to impossible to build a deck like this unless you have all upgrades done so you have luxury of chossing any specific cards you want.

Well you aren't suppose to keep upping the difficulty if you don't have the cards and passives to do them. So your answer/solution is, you played a class that wasn't ready, so lower the difficulty until you are. I went up to difficulty 4 with my wyrdhunter and respectfully got my butt kicked trying Diff 5 as my necro because I didn't have the cards or passives to really make him shine. Now? I do.

[Aeonarx]

I finished 7th difficulty with pathfinder having unlocked only half of all cards for him, so I am not sure your argument is relevant. I tried 8 with the both blood mage and summoner which are relatively at the same state as my pathfinder had been, and found soul harvester unbeatable. I simply lacked any tools to do anything with him, though the rest of the enemies were perfectly fine. If you need to have everything unlocked just to beat a single regular enemy then something is totally wrong either with the class or the enemy.

[Takichi]

Originally posted by Aeonarx:

I finished 7th difficulty with pathfinder having unlocked only half of all cards for him, so I am not sure your argument is relevant. I tried 8 with the both blood mage and summoner which are relatively at the same state as my pathfinder had been, and found sould harvester undeatable. I simply lacked any tools to do anything with him, though the rest of the enemies were perfectly fine. If you need to have everything unlocked just to beat a single regular enemy then something is totally wrong either with the class or the enemy.

You dont unlock cards in a specific order, its completly random.... So you might got after 1 run the most Important Cards. Beside that one of the Base Card Pool Summoner Cards is a 1 Energy "Redirect Dmg" Card, which is the trick to Beat Harvester or other Encounter which requier you to focus. Because of the Card Effects the Random Attacks doesnt matter anymore. Your second Option simply is Bring out a Golem, Barrier him and keep him alive, and bring a Abomination, Promote her to 5-6 Level and let her do 2-3-4 Attacks(depending on your own Dmg) and win the Encounter that way. - So right from the Start without any Unlocks you got 2 Ways of Beating the Encounter.... He is still hard yes, but not impossible like you think .

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Aeonarx:

I finished 7th difficulty with pathfinder having unlocked only half of all cards for him, so I am not sure your argument is relevant. I tried 8 with the both blood mage and summoner which are relatively at the same state as my pathfinder had been, and found sould harvester undeatable. I simply lacked any tools to do anything with him, though the rest of the enemies were perfectly fine. If you need to have everything unlocked just to beat a single regular enemy then something is totally wrong either with the class or the enemy.

You played wyrdhunter as everyone did, so you had cards unlocked for pathfinder off the get go. Where as summoner, blood mage and necro, all have to be unlocked separately. Starting off with pathfinder with the card that gives two block, in unison with pathfinder's insight is literally OP because for 2 energy, you get 4 block. Pretty much makes early game irrelevant and the card is, as you can guess it, a early unlock from wyrdhunter.

[ACE Xavier]

My two cents: it seems it is very hard/impossible to beat but also I am not beaten... on one of my early runs with my necro and a soul harvester with three souls, it was a solid stalemate... I lost the count of rounds around 60... so imho the game mechanics should not allow this kind of situation... (or maybe within context I was doomed for an eternal war...)