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No, I don't play on PS4. But if VOFAN is missing on the PS4 version, then it will definitely be missing on PC version as well.
That is, unless there is a backlash which causes them to add VOFAN even if they release the game without it...which is what happened with CS3's Active Red costume.
So if VOFAN is missing from CS4, then it's best for all potential customers, console and PC players, to start complaining about it now, so that hopefully NISA will take action to solve the problem and get it into the game.
Otherwise, if it is missing, and if no customers speak up and object to its exclusion, then chances are nothing will be done to include it, and it will remain unavailable forever.
Ideally, this would a non-issue because VOFAN is already available in the NISA version of the game...although I doubt that is the case.
Maybe someone who has an early copy of the game will clarify soon 100% for sure whether or not VOFAN is available.
Or failing that, regular customers could post the info once the official release date is here.
We might as well wait. It's a week away, so it's not too long (for ps4 of course).
I don't need swimsuits, though. Because screw that.
Thanks for doing that. I assume they didn't respond though? So if not, then it seems we will need a player to tell us the answer?
There are lots of reviews for NISA's CS4 out on youtube and the internet now.
Yet none of the reviewers bother to mention whether Alisa's VOFAN costume has been excluded or not.
This should be a very simple matter for someone who has a copy of the game to determine the answer to. Hopefully someone will actually say what the answer is soon.
And if it's excluded, we might need to start contacting the gaming press to ask if they can help us find out from NISA why it's been excluded, exactly, and if they intend to add it or not.
I also have been trying to avoid going there and hence I didn't bring it up in this thread before now, in order to give NISA the benefit of the doubt on this issue.
However, at the same time, we do have to keep that possibility in the back of our minds, as there are many Puritan-types who want NISA to censor this particular costume of Alisa, via not making it available to buy. So it's possible that censorship is why it's missing, if it is indeed missing.
Whatever the reason is, should the costume not be there, then a public statement from NISA is necessary to clarify why they left it out.
Well yes they did, but with a caveat/asterisk next to it. They originally excluded CS3's most controversial & Puritan-offending costume, "Active Red", for the first few months of CS3's release.
They only added it later due to backlash from customers, combined with negative coverage from a few gaming sites.
NISA claimed the issue with Active Red originally being missing was not due to censorship, yet they never clarified what the issue actually was, not even by now, in October 2020.
So...it's highly possible that it was initially censored, and then uncensored solely due to outrage over the censorship. There is no way that consumers can know either way whether that's the case or not, but given that NISA hasn't been transparent about the matter, that makes it quite probable.
It's obvious without the need to say it. If it's not due to censorship then the only explanation would be a licensing issue which was resolved later and thus the DLC added.
I don't see why early review copies wouldn't include all of the DLC. I assume they would. Although I don't know for sure.
And I don't think it's so obvious that it was a licensing issue. If it was, then why didn't NISA openly say so?
Why did they instead remain so secretive about it (and still do to this day)?
Could just as well be that the secrecy is because they initially made a decision to censor, and thus excluded the DLC, and then backlash over the censorship decision caused them to realize it was a bad decision, so they reversed it.
If that's not what happened, then NISA could easily clarify the matter by publicly disclosing all the details of exactly what did truly happen.
DLC is a bonus, it's not part of the base game. In all of the review copies of games I've ever been given... I can't recall DLC ever being included.
As for the second question. You already have NISA on record saying it was not a censorship issue. So it's obvious to anyone who takes even a millisecond to think about that if it wasn't a decision to not include it, the only logical conclusion would be something preventing the inclusion of it and the only possible thing that could be would be related to licensing. The fact it gets added later would mean whatever issue they had was cleared up. This is a real basic progress of thought processing.
Companies don't owe you an explanation for every little detail of things like this or even need to take time out of their day to explain something people could reach the conclusion to on their own. You might as well be demanding to see the devs tax returns at this point. Just be happy it's available and move on.
Yeah it has been 6 days and they haven't got back with me on twitter.
Uh oh, that's no good at all!
Thanks for posting the answer. So now we know the VOFAN costume is missing!
Should we give NISA more time to explain this?
Or is it already time for us to start emailing the big-time youtubers and gaming press who are interested in covering issues of possible censorship in anime games?
What do you think?
And if we should start the emails now, then do any of you want to volunteer to be the emailer spokesperson who brings this issue to the the youtubers' & gaming press' attention?
That should be a simple matter to find out, I would think.
Does Falcom itself not own the IP rights to Alisa's VOFAN costume for CS4?
If not, then who does, exactly?
If we cannot figure this stuff out, then I'm sure some questions that games journalists would know who to put to the right people could.
And so the Kuon costumes are missing from the NISA version of CS4 too, right?
Are the Kuon costumes & the VOFAN one, 100% of everything that is missing from the NISA version, or is there more stuff missing too?
EDIT: Oh, it seems that only one of the Kuon costumes was made for CS4, and another was made for another game but uses CS4 aesthetics in the costume for a different game, if I understand those things correctly.