Character Power Ranking Up till now(Story wise)

[Zoa Gilstein]

1. Bad End Rean
2. Demon Mcburn
3. Roselia
4. Osbourne
5. Arianrhod
6. Matteus
7. Aurelia
8. Arios
9. Cassius
10. Rutger
Feel free to give your opinions on this

[Mistfox]

Arianrhod is much higher, on the level of Mcburn, they have sparred on occasion and they were about equal. She was a pushover to Class VII because she was suicidal and was never serious about killing them.

Roselia is also higher because her student, Emma, was already able to subdue McBurn's flames to a great extent in CS3, not to mention her time stop ability.

[HarbingerOfDestruction「俺様」]

1. Demon McBurn (I honestly don't see him losing to anyone or anything)
2. Arianrhod
3. Ein Selnate (Don't know much about her, but she's the top Dominion, that HAS to count for something)
4. Giliath Osborne (Ranking him based on his final fight feats)
5. Cassius Bright/Victor S. Arseid (Prior to his fight against McBurn in CS2)
6. Aurelia Le Guin/Leonhardt The BladeLord
7. Arios MacLaine/Matteus Vander (We haven't seen much of him, but he was stated to be a monster)
8. Rutger Claussel/Baldor Orlando
9. Sigmund Orlando/Thomas Lysander
10. Kevin Graham/Wazy Hemisphere/Yun-Ka-Fai (Placing Yun so low because of his age, if you nullify that fact he stands at top 6-5.

It's hard to rank special "magician" characters like Vita, Roselia, Mariabelle etc... but If I had to, they all would be at top 9+-

[Zaphkiel]

Originally posted by Mistfox:

Arianrhod is much higher, on the level of Mcburn, they have sparred on occasion and they were about equal. She was a pushover to Class VII because she was suicidal and was never serious about killing them.

Roselia is also higher because her student, Emma, was already able to subdue McBurn's flames to a great extent in CS3, not to mention her time stop ability.

We are talking about Demon Mcburn here, the one who can destroy space around him just by existing. And no, Arianrhod never sparred Mcburn in his demon form

[Zaphkiel]

Originally posted by HarbingerOfDestruction:

1. Demon McBurn (I honestly don't see him losing to anyone or anything)
2. Arianrhod
3. Ein Selnate (Don't know much about her, but she's the top Dominion, that HAS to count for something)
4. Giliath Osborne (Ranking him based on his final fight feats)
5. Cassius Bright/Victor S. Arseid (Prior to his fight against McBurn in CS2)
6. Aurelia Le Guin/Leonhardt The BladeLord
7. Arios MacLaine/Matteus Vander (We haven't seen much of him, but he was stated to be a monster)
8. Rutger Claussel/Baldor Orlando
9. Sigmund Orlando/Thomas Lysander
10. Kevin Graham/Wazy Hemisphere/Yun-Ka-Fai (Placing Yun so low because of his age, if you nullify that fact he stands at top 6-5.

It's hard to rank special "magician" characters like Vita, Roselia, Mariabelle etc... but If I had to, they all would be at top 9+-

If you are ranking Osborne based on his final fight than surely you realize he was able to take on 20 people without breaking a sweat while Arianrhod lost to 8 people.
Also Arios is stronger than Cassius now, it will show in the next game
If there is one character stronger than Demon Mcburn it would be Bad End Rean, which will also show in the next game.

[HarbingerOfDestruction「俺様」]

Originally posted by Zaphkiel:

Originally posted by HarbingerOfDestruction:

1. Demon McBurn (I honestly don't see him losing to anyone or anything)
2. Arianrhod
3. Ein Selnate (Don't know much about her, but she's the top Dominion, that HAS to count for something)
4. Giliath Osborne (Ranking him based on his final fight feats)
5. Cassius Bright/Victor S. Arseid (Prior to his fight against McBurn in CS2)
6. Aurelia Le Guin/Leonhardt The BladeLord
7. Arios MacLaine/Matteus Vander (We haven't seen much of him, but he was stated to be a monster)
8. Rutger Claussel/Baldor Orlando
9. Sigmund Orlando/Thomas Lysander
10. Kevin Graham/Wazy Hemisphere/Yun-Ka-Fai (Placing Yun so low because of his age, if you nullify that fact he stands at top 6-5.

It's hard to rank special "magician" characters like Vita, Roselia, Mariabelle etc... but If I had to, they all would be at top 9+-

If you are ranking Osborne based on his final fight than surely you realize he was able to take on 20 people without breaking a sweat while Arianrhod lost to 8 people.
Also Arios is stronger than Cassius now, it will show in the next game
If there is one character stronger than Demon Mcburn it would be Bad End Rean, which will also show in the next game.

Thanks for the intricate reply. And also spoilers from Hajimari. Real helpful. ****** Blocked.

[The Tempted Man]

Originally posted by HarbingerOfDestruction:

Originally posted by Zaphkiel:

If you are ranking Osborne based on his final fight than surely you realize he was able to take on 20 people without breaking a sweat while Arianrhod lost to 8 people.
Also Arios is stronger than Cassius now, it will show in the next game
If there is one character stronger than Demon Mcburn it would be Bad End Rean, which will also show in the next game.

Thanks for the intricate reply. And also spoilers from Hajimari. Real helpful. ****** Blocked.

get a life

[Experiment1]

Originally posted by The Tempted Man:

Originally posted by HarbingerOfDestruction:

Thanks for the intricate reply. And also spoilers from Hajimari. Real helpful. ****** Blocked.

get a life

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[vkobe]

Originally posted by Mistfox:

Arianrhod is much higher, on the level of Mcburn, they have sparred on occasion and they were about equal. She was a pushover to Class VII because she was suicidal and was never serious about killing them.

Roselia is also higher because her student, Emma, was already able to subdue McBurn's flames to a great extent in CS3, not to mention her time stop ability.

but mcburn never said he used his demon form when he sparred with her

[Dr. Rudolf von Richten]

1): Celine
2): Mr. Tiddles
3): Antoine
4): Coppe
5): Aryll
6): Marie
7): Bootsy
8): Roselia
9): Fie
10): Shirley

[Alex]

Top 0: Ragnard, Zeit, Roselia, Argres
These go way over any single person or even a whole squad power.

[Sephilar]

Originally posted by vkobe:

Originally posted by Mistfox:

Arianrhod is much higher, on the level of Mcburn, they have sparred on occasion and they were about equal. She was a pushover to Class VII because she was suicidal and was never serious about killing them.

Roselia is also higher because her student, Emma, was already able to subdue McBurn's flames to a great extent in CS3, not to mention her time stop ability.

but mcburn never said he used his demon form when he sparred with her

In Sen III McBurn mentions himself that he doesn't think he would be able to win against Arianrhod, and in the previous games it was also mentioned that Loewe was about as strong as him, which is why he grieved his death being the only one among the Enforcers that was able to keep up a fight against him. In SC Weissmann actually became almost invincible once he attained the power of the Aureole, but not in terms of power but because of his absolute space barrier which was untouchable by common means except against weapons made from the Divergent Laws like his demon sword which essentially was what allowed the party to be able to win against him in the end, and all that taking into account that unlike McBurn he never really fought using his full power and he was already injured when he confronted Weissmann after his transformation, which goes to show we never really saw Loewe's true potential unlike McBurn, and these are facts we're talking about many years previous to the current year in the series, so in other words, by the time when Arianrhod trained both Loewe and McBurn, it's safe to assume that obviously both of them weren't as powerful as when they were formely introduced in their games, while Arianrhod was as powerful as she always since she became an Anguis. In other words, Loewe would have been able to become even more powerful than what we could imagine if he didn't die in SC, while McBurn had all the remaining years after his death to become stronger, including being able to transform in his demon form.

So yeah, tl;dr, Arianrhod was the strongest member of Ouroboros, while Loewe and McBurn back then had about the same power levels, but Arianrhod never had any intention or purpose to become more powerful than she was already since she was an Immortal, but Loewe and Mcburn never stopped training and becoming more powerful each day under the coaching of Arianrhod, so it's not really fair to say Mcburn is the strongest just because one already kicked the bullet while the other never really went all out as well against Class VII.

[vkobe]

Originally posted by The Rollback Carnival:

Originally posted by vkobe:

but mcburn never said he used his demon form when he sparred with her

In Sen III McBurn mentions himself that he doesn't think he would be able to win against Arianrhod, and in the previous games it was also mentioned that Loewe was about as strong as him, which is why he grieved his death being the only one among the Enforcers that was able to keep up a fight against him. In SC Weissmann actually became almost invincible once he attained the power of the Aureole, but not in terms of power but because of his absolute space barrier which was untouchable by common means except against weapons made from the Divergent Laws like his demon sword which essentially was what allowed the party to be able to win against him in the end, and all that taking into account that unlike McBurn he never really fought using his full power and he was already injured when he confronted Weissmann after his transformation, which goes to show we never really saw Loewe's true potential unlike McBurn, and these are facts we're talking about many years previous to the current year in the series, so in other words, by the time when Arianrhod trained both Loewe and McBurn, it's safe to assume that obviously both of them weren't as powerful as when they were formely introduced in their games, while Arianrhod was as powerful as she always since she became an Anguis. In other words, Loewe would have been able to become even more powerful than what we could imagine if he didn't die in SC, while McBurn had all the remaining years after his death to become stronger, including being able to transform in his demon form.

So yeah, tl;dr, Arianrhod was the strongest member of Ouroboros, while Loewe and McBurn back then had about the same power levels, but Arianrhod never had any intention or purpose to become more powerful than she was already since she was an Immortal, but Loewe and Mcburn never stopped training and becoming more powerful each day under the coaching of Arianrhod, so it's not really fair to say Mcburn is the strongest just because one already kicked the bullet while the other never really went all out as well against Class VII.

but she said netheir mcburn will lose against her

i didnt said he is the strongest, but lianne seem to imply than she cant beat mcburn

in the second, third and fourth game everyone ♥♥♥♥ themselves when it was time to fight mcburn, just look machias reaction when he saw mcburn true form

against lianne it mostly respect and say she is very strong, but against mcburn it is like if they fight their worst nightmare, liane never inspire so much fear than mcburn

you need at least valimar and millium sword to break his shield, but for lianne we dont need valimar to beat her human form

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by vkobe:

......

Machias was just reacting to his looks, not his power and if you were basing it off that scene, then remember that The Fool and The Grandmaster did a number on him by his own words, so they would be above him too then won't it?

[vkobe]

Originally posted by Mistfox:

Originally posted by vkobe:

......

Machias was just reacting to his looks, not his power and if you were basing it off that scene, then remember that The Fool and The Grandmaster did a number on him by his own words, so they would be above him too then won't it?

it is not only by reputation, but just look by feat, the mcburn burn a giant robot, we never see other character able to do that

again i didnt say he is the strongest in kiseki, maybe manga show stronger character

but in cold steel game serie he is the strongest, he show better feat than other character and he is the only character you need valimar to beat, even in cold steel 2 rean admit he will need valimar to have chance to beat him, i never see rean suggesting to use valimar to beat liane in her human form

rose suggest than liane is same level than her, but emma say than mcburn is stronger than the merge between holy beast and witch clan chief

in the game mcburn is closest to meta human while than other strong character are mostly super human

so in dc or marvel universe mcburn is mostly equivalent to superman/thor while than liane, rose, rean are mostly equivalent to hulk/wonder woman

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Dr. Rudolf von Richten:

1): Celine
2): Mr. Tiddles
3): Antoine
4): Coppe
5): Aryll
6): Marie
7): Bootsy
8): Roselia
9): Fie
10): Shirley

I sense a theme here, though the 2 at the end seems tacked on.