Post Game Help (need directions) (spoilers obviously)

[PewPew]

I need the normal and water vault locations.

Also how do I start the tyrant quest? The new guildmaster told me the location of the tyrants but didn't give me a quest, I went and looked for the tyrants and couldn't find em, so I'm wondering what the trigger is.

Also where is the final boss? I talked to amelie in her prison cell and she said something about a place no one would go.

Besides the 9 drakes, the tyrants and the children of omni, are there more secrets? Is omnicron in this game? Can you catch proto vados?

EDIT: It seems you can encounter the underworld mons. Any idea where and how to trigger?

[HeavensRayZ]

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Uhh so did anyone find the water vault? also... wheres the location for the thunder drake xD...

I said it was south east of tundra base, and thunder drake is in palmaya

THANKS :D

[HeavensRayZ]

Publicado originalmente por ZDK:

Anyone know where the reborn spot's are for Merida Deena Zetta and Grunda?

Merida = That Beach place (Pal.. w.e...)
Deena = Secret Village (All the way to the left and up)
Zetta = In his Mansion
Grunda = The Cavern where the thief girl stole Atlas

[PewPew]

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Anyone know where the reborn spot's are for Merida Deena Zetta and Grunda?

I dont remember who is who.

But the thunder dude is in the submarine I think.

Deena is in her statue west of the hidden forest city.

Grandpa is in the desert cave where you chase the thief during the final arc.

[Haru]

Publicado originalmente por ZDK:

Anyone know where the reborn spot's are for Merida Deena Zetta and Grunda?

Merida is palmaya, deena is hidden forest, Zetta and Grunda are in the locations you meet them in the story (mansion and theif's cave)

[Laxariem]

Hey buddy about Omnicron... You are him, a reincarnation of him since his "soul" was destroyed. You are Omnicron-lite, Omnicron reborn.

[PewPew]

Publicado originalmente por Laxariem:

Hey buddy about Omnicron... You are him, a reincarnation of him since his "soul" was destroyed. You are Omnicron-lite, Omnicron reborn.

I havent touched the game since a decade ago or something ,but wasn't omnicron normal type?

[legacy_1]

where are people getting the information that solus is omnicron reborn? From what i've seen they said he was the true heir to the throne as he possesses omnicron bloodline through Nara.

[Haru]

Publicado originalmente por legacy_1:

where are people getting the information that solus is omnicron reborn? From what i've seen they said he was the true heir to the throne as he possesses omnicron bloodline through Nara.

I mean, to be fair, Solus's evolution is Omnisun, it kinda makes sense, although all they ever clearly state is that Solus is the only tyrant capable of being worthy of succeeding him.

[Laxariem]

Omnicron was normal, Darine was water, Titan was mineral. We can assume he was normal because in the first game there was no psychic type. The truth is I have no idea how the canon, if there will be one, will play out.

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The game doesn't said it explicitly that Solus is Omnicron reborn, you need to connect all the dots surrounding the King of Monsters to get that conclusion.

Bloodline is NOT enough because every monster is Omnicron's "bloodline" (even Vados in some aspects). Solus is not a direct descendant of Omnicron, the same way the rest of monsters are not. The same way Omnicron made the primordial tyrants, they made the subsequent monsters.

The renegade tyrants are in some form "childrens" of the primordial tyrants because for them to be tyrants, their eggs need to be infused with a fraction of their power. Nara was the only living child of Omnicron and even her couldn't become Queen of Monsters, for that reason she needed to bear a son that could be the "true" heir of Omnicron. But as I said, all the monsters are his spawn. A child of Nara now wouldn't be that different from those she made in the dawn of Nexomon's universe. Heck, she is the primordial tyrant of life but his son is psychic? How is that even possible?

If she didn't had the power to be the Queen of Monsters, how could her child be infused with it when he would be weaker to her as she was to Omnicron? Every tyrant is weaker to those it spawned from. The only explanation is that she used Omnicron's "destroyed" soul and gave it a new life and purpose. She made her father... her "son". By her influence the "new" Omnicron would be a merciful king, not as her father: the merciless king of monsters.

Here are some points to defend my claim:

• As a baby Solus freaked the greater drakes more than the renegade tyrants did the time they existed. AS A BABY! He didn't even had the remainder power of his "uncles" and "mother" when the greater drakes go berserk the way they did, something unprecedented.
  
• Nara coulnd't give what she didn't have. If she could make a powerful tyrant such as Solus for the sake of the "plan", she would become the Queen of Monsters herself without needing a son, a son that she beared for the sake of that "plan" only after almost a millenia of war. Is like having Solus was a last option, a desperate meassure for a desperate time.
  
• The lesser tyrants had, for what we can tell, the same or similar fraction of power Solus got and that wasn't enough to become the new King of Monsters. Like I said, the birth of Solus freaked the greater drakes like none tyrants did in over a millenia.
  
• The game tells many times that the King of Monsters is RE-born. Yes, you could say that the role is reborn and not the monster, but...
  
• Remus, the druid guy you found in the endgame, tells the player that maybe they met before, in another lifetime. The only nexomon that are somewhat immortal are the tyrants and only the primordial ones where in the first game. Yeah, Solus can be Metta reborn since he doesn't appear in the game. That can be a plausible explanation.
  
• Grunda says to Solus: Let's brawl kid. Like old times... Yes, that can mean that as a mentor they fought before as "humans" but now they fight as tyrants. It can also mean that Grunda and Omnicron fought in the "old times".
  
• The ultimate form of Solus, his "true form", is Omnisun: a spiritualized version of Omnicron. Lets not forget that this guy is not the same type as her mother.
  
• In the first game Omnicron was revived because five of his children gave him their power, the power they got from Omnicron first. In this game they do the same in an attempt to "revive" their king.
  
• Omnicron is the mascot of this franchise, is even in the logo of Micromon!

[Laxariem]

Indeed, as the primordial tyrant of life she mostly had a child without a father. An allegory of the birth of the messiah since Solus is meant to heal the world from the sins of Omnicron.

[RickMalmsteenBR]

Can you please give me directions for the fire drake and decay drake? Also, where can i capture the Vlados?

[Laxariem]

Protovados is in the Nexotower, Frozen Tundra. You need to talk to Amelie in Prison, Lateria.

[pikapowerj]

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Anyone know where the reborn spot's are for Merida Deena Zetta and Grunda?

If im remembering the right names 4 the right charaters, Merida (water) is in palmaiya on an island to the south / southwest i think, Deena (plant) is by a statue in that hidden secret village place in the jungle northwest of the guild, Zetta (thunder) is in his office in the underwater city, Grunda (earth) is by the giant tyrant skeleton in the underground cave to the south between lateria and the desert outpost. I did all this earlier today but i have a bad memory, so if I messed up, then i'll just say sorry in advance. If you need to there are also videos on youtube that can act as walthroughs to help give you directions. Thats what I did. I dont know how to send website links so again sorry if im not much help, but I hope this can help you in some way! :)