So much negativity uh_uh

[Cmdo.Delta]

Am I the only one who actually enjoyed the demo?

I only see here people whining "they changed this and they changed that, it should have remained the same" bla bla bla... I mean, if you really wanted them to change nothing, why don't you go play the first game? No need for a second one...

I'm also surprised and amazed to see people complain that they added steps to renovation part... Am I the only one who actually knows what "flipping" a house mean? It's never about decorating lol, it's about renovating... In fact, many flippers don't even bother to add furnitures inside the houses they flip. They just pay the real estate agent to do it for them. I'm not even joking. We visited houses for a year when we wanted to move into another neighborhood and we saw many many houses being flipped (you know, one being for sale, being sold then it comes back on market 6 months later with a bunch of interior improvements and some landscaping)... most of time, those houses were empty or always had the same furnitures (and it was the same real estate agent, funny uh?). I mean, the extra steps and more depth in the renovation part of the game is just what this game needed the most. We are playing house FLIPPER... not "Interior designer simulator"... I think it's great we can do both. It's just what makes this game awesome... but asking them to slack on the renovating part of the gameplay while the game is called HOUSE FLIPPER is just making me laugh so bad... I just don't get all the hate...

Now you people will be happy to know that there is an architect mode or something and that you'll be able to skip all the tedious part if you want. So smile! This game will be fantastic and when you'll have started to play it, you'll never look back!

[peeps_75]

its not hate its honest feedback the whole point of a demo being put out is so the devs can get feedback regardless if people's opinions are good or bad its still feedback lol

[Cmdo.Delta]

Originally posted by peeps_75:

its not hate its honest feedback the whole point of a demo being put out is so the devs can get feedback regardless if people's opinions are good or bad its still feedback lol

Yes but people barely played and all I read is people complaining that House Flipper 2 is not House Flipper... So I really don't get it.

[Venera]

i can't even play the demo tbh, it keeps crashing. All the devs said was to lower graphics settings but that hasn't worked for me and for all the players that have the same problem that i do, I can't really enjoy the demo if I can't play it. I also feel it's fair for people to be upset with the demo if they feel that the changes made kind of take away from the experience they were hoping for. I just think we should all keep in mind that a demo is just that: a demo. It is bound to change and improve with feedback, and hopefully it will be better then. I probably won't get the full game until genuine reviews are made about it or until it goes on sale.

[Nemesys9999]

But that's exactly what we are doing right now my friend, we are un-installing this "thing" (+ removing it from our whishlist) and go back toHF1,
Just waiting for Hometopia to come out (with coop/multiplayer, with a wheel of colors ... and a free game - the game may not have for the moment all the choices of textures and furnishings, but I'm very confident it'll come very soon and a workshop too.) - I've played their demo too and there's no comparison.

Are you the only one who actually knows what "flipping" a house means?
Then I wonder why you played the HF1 in the first place - what does pets and farm dlcs have to do with "flipping" a house? More than decorating a house to sell it?

I don't know what country you're living in (a wild guess : USA??? ),
Please notice we are not living with the same stadarts and values than yours on this panet.
In my country, if you want to sell a house, you're better to keep it empty and without ready-to-use cabinets (we all have very quality wood furnitures from our parents/grand-parents/family and we are not ready to give up on them).

And the steps they added to renovating are totally unnecessary : what do they bring to the game?
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with real estate agents, but what does that have to do with this game???? Can you tell me?

And you are right, we are playing house flipper, and that does not mean what americans are considering as house flipping! You're not the only ones on this planet! Only this tought is just making me laugh so bad... I just don't get the all american thing. Like they are way better than us ????

Now you people will be happy to know that there are alternative games coming into the market where you don't have to stand this "all american" way of seeing things. And if it goes on like it strarted, this HF2 is heading straight into a reinforced concrete wall.

[peeps_75]

Originally posted by Cmdo.Delta:

Originally posted by peeps_75:

its not hate its honest feedback the whole point of a demo being put out is so the devs can get feedback regardless if people's opinions are good or bad its still feedback lol

Yes but people barely played and all I read is people complaining that House Flipper 2 is not House Flipper... So I really don't get it.

and you know factually they barely played the demo ? for some as far as i'm aware they couldn't due to bugs for others like me first night i play i was playing just under 2 hours in them too hours i was still cleaning and dealing with rubbish ended up exiting the game, then last night i gave it my all to play the entire demo i wanted to at least give it a chance before writing it off so fast, honestly i wanted to pull my hair out from pure boardem of how tedious it felt from just trying to get a simple job done compared to HF1 they have dragged simple jobs out too long to the point i dread doing the jobs its supposed to be a relaxing game it felt like a long winded choir because the amount of steps you have to do painting, tiling or flooring with glue and if you want to change the floor then your going through the entire long winded steps again i get devs want to give us everything and that's a good thing but they went over board on trying to do that because they have made it not enjoyable to play, that now its not relaxing, and as for visual i feel like im playing a childs game or a cheap mobile phone game its very off putting lol, iv put over 2000 hours into HF1 yes there limitations in that but the commands are simple the visual is soothing realistic and smooth its so relaxing to play without the hassel of god knows how many steps you have to do to lay a floor instead of a simple click and drag, ido love the customisation's thou regarding items etc and the options on the sell tool and the building walls and also that boarder frame to stop you tiling in places you don't want to and the colour wheels for items.
if they could make HF2 look like and feel like HF1 and how relaxing and smooth it plays with the new features of building and customisation then this game would be perfect

[peeps_75]

honestly i'm happy to stick with HF1 and thats what i intent to do its a shame i cant take to HF2 gutted but i cant deal with that train wreck they have created

[Maylee]

I love it, and I think it's very promising. Comparing a pre-release demo to a beloved game that has been out for many years, and with several DLCs and counless mods is difficult. HF1 wasn't pretty limited in the beginning, and in many ways it still is. I see a great future for HF2, especially for those of us who prefer the restoration aspect.

I suspect a lot of the negativity comes from the awkward menu system. It's hard to figure out how much freedom we actually have, because advanced options are well hidden within tabs and tools. My biggest problem with the demo is that the flipper has a 4-in-1 tool. A selling tool should not be the same as an edit/duplicate tool.

And when I looked at the paint in the shop, I didn't realize you could choose from a LOT of shades within each paint bucket menu, for example. Or that the floor tiles could be changed to planks in the edit menu in the store. Even after I realized it by editing furniture, I couldn't find the edit purchase menu in the store. That needs to be improved upon, or peole will think the game is far more limited than it really is. or just get frustrated by the complexity of things that will be repeated over and over in each house.

[Cee Cee]

Originally posted by Nemesys9999:

But that's exactly what we are doing right now my friend, we are un-installing this "thing" (+ removing it from our whishlist) and go back toHF1,
Just waiting for Hometopia to come out (with coop/multiplayer, with a wheel of colors ... and a free game - the game may not have for the moment all the choices of textures and furnishings, but I'm very confident it'll come very soon and a workshop too.) - I've played their demo too and there's no comparison.

Are you the only one who actually knows what "flipping" a house means?
Then I wonder why you played the HF1 in the first place - what does pets and farm dlcs have to do with "flipping" a house? More than decorating a house to sell it?

I don't know what country you're living in (a wild guess : USA??? ),
Please notice we are not living with the same stadarts and values than yours on this panet.
In my country, if you want to sell a house, you're better to keep it empty and without ready-to-use cabinets (we all have very quality wood furnitures from our parents/grand-parents/family and we are not ready to give up on them).

And the steps they added to renovating are totally unnecessary : what do they bring to the game?
I'm sorry you had a bad experience with real estate agents, but what does that have to do with this game???? Can you tell me?

And you are right, we are playing house flipper, and that does not mean what americans are considering as house flipping! You're not the only ones on this planet! Only this tought is just making me laugh so bad... I just don't get the all american thing. Like they are way better than us ????

Now you people will be happy to know that there are alternative games coming into the market where you don't have to stand this "all american" way of seeing things. And if it goes on like it strarted, this HF2 is heading straight into a reinforced concrete wall.

Hate on Americans much?

[SneakyGremlin]

I really liked the demo.

[moonl7tshadows]

The game added a bunch of features that bring NOTHING to the game except for making it more tedious like the glue on the walls and floors before placing flooring or tiling and wall building.

The fact that you cannot see dirt or spots that need to be cleaned is also annoying.

The customization options and the fact you can copy style is nice and I didn't hate the graphics even though I far prefer HF1's.

As of now there are FAR more downgrades from HF1 to make me more than likely NOT buy it for a long time.

[OrganizationOatmeal]

Originally posted by moonl7tshadows:

The game added a bunch of features that bring NOTHING to the game except for making it more tedious like the glue on the walls and floors before placing flooring or tiling and wall building.

The fact that you cannot see dirt or spots that need to be cleaned is also annoying.

The customization options and the fact you can copy style is nice and I didn't hate the graphics even though I far prefer HF1's.

As of now there are FAR more downgrades from HF1 to make me more than likely NOT buy it for a long time.

That's what gets me. Adding more steps to a process isn't necessarily a problem if you make those steps fun. But they didn't. They are just tedious busywork. They were toeing the line of realism/fun in HF1 and it seems like they just took a hard leap over the fence into realism, meaning that it's no longer fun to play.

No, it's not realistic that I click on the garbage and it vanishes into the void. It's also not fun to have to take 30 garbage bags out of the house and place them in a specific bin, ONE BY ONE.

[Maren Hrafn]

Originally posted by moonl7tshadows:

The game added a bunch of features that bring NOTHING to the game except for making it more tedious like the glue on the walls and floors before placing flooring or tiling and wall building.

The fact that you cannot see dirt or spots that need to be cleaned is also annoying.

The customization options and the fact you can copy style is nice and I didn't hate the graphics even though I far prefer HF1's.

As of now there are FAR more downgrades from HF1 to make me more than likely NOT buy it for a long time.

You can actually see the dirt and other things you need to change. Instead of adding it as a skill they just give it to you in the form of "Flipper Sense". If you press (I believe it's "R") while using a tool it will highlight the changes you need to make with said tool.

[Maren Hrafn]

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Originally posted by OrganizationOatmeal:

No, it's not realistic that I click on the garbage and it vanishes into the void. It's also not fun to have to take 30 garbage bags out of the house and place them in a specific bin, ONE BY ONE.

I think they took a page out of "Train Station Renovation" with that one, except in that one you are also supposed to sort the recycling ;) I agree it can be annoying but I don't mind it. At least they don't make you run clear across a large map to do it. You can also pick up the bins and move them closer.

[Maren Hrafn]

Honestly the inclusion of the "Copy style" feature alone is enough for me to give them all the chances they need to work out the bugs. I played HF1 since its release and after seeing how that game has morphed and grown, and how much they've listened to the community along the way, I will give it a go.

Honestly my main criticism was the overall style threw me for a loop. I loved the realistic look of HF1 and find the change to almost cartoony graphics to be a bit jarring. It might look brighter and more...playful?...but HF1 seemed more grown up.

[nicks husband coach]

the painting mechanic looks pretty goofy i wish they didnt add that