Car Mechanic Simulator 2021

Car Mechanic Simulator 2021

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Glock Fawty Dec 29, 2023 @ 2:21am
How do I add oil?
What the title says. I got the first car, tried to start it to drive it on the lift. Says it won't start because it needs oil. Looked around shop, can't find oil anywhere. Where do I get oil?
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astrofelix59 Dec 29, 2023 @ 4:02am 
Fluids magically appear in your hands when you remove a cap, oil, coolant, windscreen wash, powersteering and brake fluid.
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astrofelix59 Dec 29, 2023 @ 4:11am 
When the jug tips back, give about 2 seconds more and 4 seconds for oil and you will be at fill line. You can go over max will cost an extra credit or two, but must be over minimum mark.
G.S.90s Dec 29, 2023 @ 9:00am 
Wrong, don't need to count seconds, just have to watch canister.
At first when you pour, it doesn't move, when it moves, let go.
Every time, all fluids will be at okay level, no matter the engine size.
astrofelix59 Dec 29, 2023 @ 4:48pm 
Originally posted by G.S.90s:
Wrong, don't need to count seconds, just have to watch canister.
At first when you pour, it doesn't move, when it moves, let go.
Every time, all fluids will be at okay level, no matter the engine size.
When jug tips back it will be min line, a couple of seconds more to reach max line.
G.S.90s Jan 4, 2024 @ 12:24am 
Originally posted by astrofelix59:
Originally posted by G.S.90s:
Wrong, don't need to count seconds, just have to watch canister.
At first when you pour, it doesn't move, when it moves, let go.
Every time, all fluids will be at okay level, no matter the engine size.
When jug tips back it will be min line, a couple of seconds more to reach max line.
You don't fill to max, or leave it at minimum. As the engine heats up, the oil heats up, to fill an engine to max is to take a big risk, as it might damage the engine. Same with coolant, filling to max, means little air, coolant filled to max is likely to create a lot of pressure in a smaller area. That is why anyone working on cars, leave fluid levels somewhere in the middle.

What I've found, is that when canister moves, there is enough fluid poured, and it is always at a reasonable level. When the jug/canister tips back, it is not at minimum level, that is a lie, it is wrong and incorrect. When starting to pour, and while pouring, fluid level will be at minimum but pass minimum as you continue to pour. When it "tips back" then it is at a reasonable level between maximum and minimum.

"When jug tips back it will be min line"
No, when it tips back, then it is between minimum and maximum line.

"a couple of seconds more to reach max line"
Which is a line you never try to reach, as it is risking damaging the engine.

Minimum line, is very low on the dipstick, which you claim is where fluid level will be when the canister/jug tips back. Then you say a couple more seconds (2-3s?) to reach the maximum line. Either you are lying, or misremember/misunderstand what maximum line is.

On dipstick, there is minumum line, and maximum line.
Both are marked, with a line, and shortening, max., min..
As you start to pour, jug/canister tips forward, when reasonable level is reached, it tips backwards. Every single time it "tips backwards", the fluid level is between maximum and minimum, never at minimum.
Mardoin69 Jan 4, 2024 @ 9:31am 
@G.S.90s

While I'll agree coolant levels should NOT be topped off to their 'max' lines (while cold) I'm not so sure about engine oil. Yes, oil expands when it gets hot and that means it would register slightly over the 'max' line on the dipstick if checking while it's still hot--granted you gave it time to settle back into oil pan. But, I don't believe that small amount of expansion is going to be harmful to the engine really. I mean, there's multiple places that oil is being pushed around through the engine and venting systems to release air pressure within the engine. So, what exactly would get damaged from a 'maxed' engine oil level (while cold). I'm seriously asking cuz, as a mechanic, I've always topped off engine oil to it's max line in every vehicle I've ever owned. To be clear, I don't do that with most other fluids--only getting them real 'close' to full / max.
G.S.90s Jan 4, 2024 @ 2:13pm 
(These are quotes)
A car engine cannot run without engine oil, but adding excess oil to your engine can cause hazardous effects. Excess oil in a car can cause engine oil overfill problems such as clogged catalytic converters, fouled spark plugs, or engine damage. Too much oil in the engine will turn to foamy oil and lose its lubricating power. Insufficient lubrication inside the engine compartment increases friction and leads to engine overheating. Overfilled engine oil can creep through the piston rings and soak the spark plugs, leading to greasy plugs and causing weak acceleration. Overfilled engine oil is a significant concern that can cause catastrophic engine damage. You need to ensure the engine oil stays close to the full level. However, Overfilled engine oil by 200ml will not cause any damage. In any case, do not exceed the full mark. You need to develop the habit of checking your engine oil regularly, especially after an oil change in the mechanic workshop. Those gearheads can make mistakes; they are not machines.

Have you ever wondered what happens when there’s too much oil in your car? It’s a common mistake that can have serious consequences if left unchecked. Regular car maintenance and monitoring oil levels are crucial to keeping your vehicle running smoothly.

When too much oil gets into your car, it can lead to a range of problems that affect the engine’s performance and safety.

Causes of Too Much Oil in Car
Overfilling during oil change

One of the most common causes of too much oil in your car is overfilling during an oil change. This happens when you add more oil than the manufacturer’s recommended level. It’s an easy mistake to make, especially if you’re not experienced in performing oil changes. Overfilling can cause the oil to foam and reduce its lubrication properties, leading to engine damage.
Incorrect oil level readings

Another cause of too much oil in your car is incorrect oil level readings. This can be due to a faulty dipstick or improper installation of the dipstick. It’s important to ensure that the dipstick is properly inserted and secured to get an accurate reading of your oil level.
Leaking oil seals or gaskets

Leaking oil seals or gaskets can also cause too much oil in your car. This happens when oil leaks from the engine and accumulates in the oil pan, leading to overfilling. It’s important to regularly check for oil leaks and have them repaired promptly to avoid further damage to the engine.

Faulty oil pressure gauge or sensor

A faulty oil pressure gauge or sensor can also cause too much oil in your car. This happens when the gauge or sensor gives incorrect readings, leading to overfilling. It’s important to have your oil pressure gauge or sensor checked and replaced if necessary to ensure accurate oil level readings.
Risks of Too Much Oil in Car

Having too much oil in your car can lead to a range of risks that affect the engine’s performance and safety. Here are some of the most common risks associated with too much oil in your car:
Increased Engine Wear and Tear

When there’s too much oil in your car, it puts additional pressure on the engine. This can cause the engine to work harder than it needs to, leading to increased wear and tear over time. The excess oil can also cause the engine to overheat, which can further damage the engine’s components.
Reduced Engine Performance and Efficiency

An overfilled engine can also lead to reduced performance and efficiency. The excess oil can lead to increased friction and resistance, which can reduce the engine’s power output and fuel efficiency. This can result in decreased acceleration, lower top speeds, and higher fuel consumption.
Engine Damage or Failure

Over time, the excess oil can cause damage to the engine’s components, such as the pistons, bearings, and cylinder walls. This can lead to engine failure or costly repairs. In some cases, the engine may need to be completely rebuilt or replaced.

(End of quotes)

Having oil level at maximum exactly, is to be avoided, and manufacturer recommendations, is to be followed. The people who designed, engineered, and built the engine, knows more about the operational parameters. Therefore, self-taught or somewhat educated mechanics, even highly professionals, should respect the set limits, and not try to overdo them just cause it went sorta fine the last time. You say you've topped off, which is exactly as it sounds, leaving engine oil level at max.

"I've always topped off engine oil to it's max line in every vehicle I've ever owned."
In other words, you've run the risk of too much oil in all vehicles you've had. Though calling yourself a mechanic, it sounds from wording that you are not so professional, and having bad habits. Bad habits that linger due to ignorance or lack of knowledge, always having done something (which is a mistake), and over time becoming a habit you see no wrong in. Maybe time to consider and realize, that while too low oil levels are bad, so are too high oil levels, such as those being "topped off".

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Since having an interest in mechanics, I have a few games to recommend;
-My Garage. Sure it does not look super realistic, but, you can do more mechanicly than in CMS. Every part can be removed, and removed parts don't go in an inventory. They go on the floor, or where ever you drop the parts. Side panels can be removed, roof, frame, the whole car can be disassembled.

-Wrench. It's a more advanced mechanic game than CMS, there is more focus and attention to tightening and loosening of bolts, nuts, and screws. Taking off brake caliphers are more demanding, and you have to be more accurate. Can run in desktop and VR.

-My Summer Car. Yes, opening is, weird, weirder than Fallout 3. In the game you're working on a car, that is all in parts. You have to find the parts, and assemble it. Most are close by, but some you have to travel a bit to get. There is hunger, thirst, and some levels that makes possible "oval office" humor we should've outgrown. However, getting an engine to run is a challenge, alternator have to be set right, other parts of engine have to be correctly set. Same with steering, if not careful there can be too much toe in or toe out.

-Tank Mechanic Simulator: Not exactly car, but mechanics is mechanics. You can fix up tanks, decorate tanks, and drive tanks. As a side business, you have a museum, but first you need tanks. To get them, you look for buried tanks, and what else you can find. Now it can be a bit tedious, and sometime not so easy to find something, even though in right area, due to small overlooked object, or too dark to see clearly.

There is two other games, Mon Bazou and Offroad Mechanic (possibly inaccurate title). I have not played them yet, but they have mechanics aspect. Also there is Jalopy and The Long Drive, but haven't really played them yet either.
Mardoin69 Jan 5, 2024 @ 10:31am 
Tbf... I NEVER 'overfill' the engine oil. I do however, bring it up almost to the max fill line. I can see from the quotes that it can be more dangerous than I expected (overfilling) but, I've never had issues with bringing it up 'almost' to the max line on the dipstick. Granted, I do know perfectly well how to 'properly' check fluids. I'm not making checks right after the vehicle has been running ofc. Exception being the Automatic 'Gearbox' fluid check--which is done in Neutral WHILE the vehicle is running and brought up to N.O.T. So, yes, I do call myself a mechanic (thanks for making the insult) as I was trained at age of 13 and worked as a mech up until I was 40--when I changed career's. I never said I 'overfill' the oil. I'm just paranoid of running an engine down at the 'minimum' levels on oil due to my experiences--seeing what others have done to their engines having done so. Anyway, thanks for the research info you found and posted. That's what I was really interested to see... why you seemed so paranoid of running oil to 'max' level.
G.S.90s Jan 5, 2024 @ 4:39pm 
As, I'm pretty sure I've stated, between maximum and minimum is fine, while trying to have it at max exactly is not.

"why you seemed so paranoid of running oil to 'max' level."
I never said I was, you're the one who assumed so.

"Yes, oil expands when it gets hot and that means it would register slightly over the 'max' line.." "But, I don't believe that small amount of expansion is going to be harmful to the engine really."
So, started being mechanic at 13, worked as one till 40, yet you never knew about too much oil being a problem. I was not making an insult before, just stating that bad habits can arise. One should not think himself above mistakes, or ignorance, even though having done something a long time, it is especially when something been done for a long time, that bad habits can be the most present. Any mistake or wrong thing taught, early on, will linger if left uncorrected, thus becoming part of habits, doing things that way just cause that's how it's always been done. This is not an insult, but fact, that we sometimes can be arrogant and prideful, blind to our own mistakes.

You have a bit of an attitude, as in thinking "how dare he question my accomplishment?!", am I correct? Trying to point to accomplishment, as an argument, is a fallacy. Worked long, yes, but that is no guarantee that you have never made mistakes, or never developed bad habits, or never held to wrong incorrect knowledge.

You say you've owned cars, how many, what cars? As you yourself stated, it should be easy for you to back up that statement. I ask, because you say you've owned cars, but no mention of brand, type, drivetrain, just left very obtuse. You say you've worked as mechanic for 27 years, but no evidence, no specifics, just a claim. You mention seeing what happened to engines low on oil, but don't say what exactly.

"I'm just paranoid of running an engine down at the 'minimum'"
So, because you're paranoid, you assume that others are. I never said or stated I was "paranoid" about maximum. I've said that trying to leave it at max exactly, is bad. You admitted to having left at max, which is what topping off means.
Topping off;
To fill completely; to fill or refill the final portion of something not empty.
To fill (something) completely with a liquid
Then you revert and say you've never topped off. So which is it, have you always topped off every vehicle you've owned, as you yourself have directly stated and admitted, or have you never done so going against your own words?
Also, topping off because you're paranoid, is a bad habit, and it is a mistake, which shows a lack of professionalism. Having some knowledge or experience, don't make you a professional. As stated, you've switched careers, from mechanic, to something else, by own admission and definition, you cant be mechanic, as you no longer work as one. Unless, you want to call yourself and amateur mechanic. And again, no, that is not an insult. Look up what amateur means, then come back claiming it is an insult, it's not. What amateur means, is someone liking or having passion for their hobby.

You've stated inconsistencies, that's why I doubt, and ask for evidence.
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Lemar Sullivan Jan 5, 2024 @ 9:44pm 
that's the neat part: you don't add fluids.

the cars just magically work without any oil or any coolant. you see those caps you're able to remove from the top of each reservoir? yeah, that's just for show.
SkinGravel Jan 5, 2024 @ 10:12pm 
Originally posted by Lemar Sullivan:
that's the neat part: you don't add fluids.

the cars just magically work without any oil or any coolant. you see those caps you're able to remove from the top of each reservoir? yeah, that's just for show.
Eh, still gotta have the magic juice to run the dyno, track, etc. Unless you know a neat workaround.
SkinGravel Jan 5, 2024 @ 10:16pm 
Originally posted by Felix_41:
What the title says. I got the first car, tried to start it to drive it on the lift. Says it won't start because it needs oil. Looked around shop, can't find oil anywhere. Where do I get oil?
Like astro said, click and hold on the caps for oil and all reservoirs. Been a few days since you posted, so you've probably got it figured out by now.

I always count 24 "glugs" during the fill, and then release the button for 26 total "glugs." Gets me to the max fill line on the reservoirs (with plenty of room to breathe; the max fill line is there for a reason in real life, but doesn't mean sh*t in-game), and three-quarters on the oil dipstick, which is about where you want it in real life (but doesn't mean sh*t in-game).

Don't wanna blow a gasket OR a synapse. :steamthumbsup:

Beers.
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astrofelix59 Jan 6, 2024 @ 5:34am 
As above, got to be on the glugs, finish on a galoop or galerple, well the whole whole universe will implode.
astrofelix59 Jan 6, 2024 @ 6:05am 
Seriously G.S 90's you got to relax a bit, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.
G.S.90s Jan 6, 2024 @ 8:09am 
I know it's a game. When people wanna start having an argument, I respond, and I ain't taking it easy on them. But, agreed, it went a little siderailed.
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When filling oil, the jug is tipping bacl when level is in the middle, which I call reasonable level. But, with how the game works, I'd be surprised if anything damages the cars. On race track, I crash, but car is still able to drive, as if never having crashed. There is rust on cars when buying them, and rust as indicators of what is to be fixed on job cars. But is there rust beyond this? Does rust accumulate, or is the cars always 100% 100% 100% 100% once fully renovated?

One tip on cars, a fully renovated car, is worth more.
Try finding cars in junkyard, they can be fixed up a bit, and don't require full renovation for profit. While barnfinds, they cost more than you can sell them for, even after washing and using welder to fix. Junker cars can be washed, welded, and turn a profit. Renovate them completely, and you get a huge profit.

There is extra time spent, on buying just the necessary parts for the one car. What I do, as others, is to buy a bunch of rubber bushings. That way you don't have to open the tablet and buy some, every time some old ones need replacing. Could also buy extra bearings, sway bars, sway bar links, brake pads, tie rods, outer tie rods, as those are commonly used for all cars, and cant be repaired.

Repairing can be a little tricky, as it includes timing. But, it is better than in previous games, where pure chance decided if a part would get fixed or not. I usually try to hit the two green bars to the right, that way, if missing them on first passing, I can hit on the return. It's basically 4 green bars, so good chance of fixing parts.

In car info, there is listed tire dimensions. When there is two values, the left tire dimensions goes in front, the right tire dimensions goes in the rear. Bit confusing since it goes in opposite direction of the car image.

When tuning cars, after installing custom performance parts, there is three fields, with numbers in them. The best is 2+, and it is possible to get all to be 2+. It just takes a little thinking, observing what changes, and trying to anticipate. You can also customize gearboxes. If tinkering with that, write notes, see what worked and what didn't, to get the best performance ratings. Seeing the game been out quite a while, I'd expect there to be a good guide on gearbox tuning.

There is tire dimensions written in car information, but tires don't have to be that exactly, if having bought a car. There is a setting which enables unrealistic tire sizes. When buying tires, don't start inputting the highest number, as it will change when inputting other numbers. If it's set to 295, tire was at 15" then changing 15" to 19", it will no longer be set to 295 but a different value.

You can disable the auto-zoom when mounting or taking off parts.

You can change the garage images, by using Textures/01/Textures. In 01 there is placed a config, and in subfolder, you place the garage images found in among samples I think. In the room where engines are fixed, there is like a calendar. I found the exact image size for it which includes the months, and turned it into a poster. There is many other textures that can be altered, but it requires going into the games files themselves. To change garage images, there is always the workshop, but then they're not as personal.

In Cars folder, there is images for the cars, which can be altered, making it possible to make custom dials, or alter a livery. If doing that, make a back-up of the original images first. There is also what seemed like car handling in the same folder, so could be possible to make cars more drifty.

If liking mechanics based games, I recommend My Garage, you can take a car completely apart. There is also Wrench, but it's very heavy on the simulation aspect. You have My Summer Car, which is good since it matters how you put the engine together, having to tune a little bit. But, the intro, is weird, and slightly disturbing.
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