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Grandork Jan 24, 2023 @ 8:24pm
Rank 9 Golden Core?
No matter how many times I've tried, my best was Rank 8. with 2 Mana Left. I can't seem to find a way to gain those 3 extra mana. I have every skill and used all of the prep elixirs.

The 6 Mana for +1 Per Turn is only worth using on Round 1 and 2. Since you have only 9 Rounds, and you start on Round 1, it means that Round 1 gives 8 Mana and Round 2 gives 7 Mana. This gives a total of 3 Mana.

The 2 Mana for +1 Per Turn, but only used during Phase 2 is not that great, since you usually finish it in 3 turns top. This is only pre used in Phase 1, right before transition.

The 2 Mana for 5 Mana is useful.

Over all, it's like this:

Phase 1: 13 Mana
Phase 2: 25 Mana
Phase 3: 45 Mana

Total Mana Needed: 73

Starting Mana: 6 + 6 (12)

Turn 1:
Cast the 6 Mana Skill and do 2 of the 3 things. 6 Mana Gained + 2 (20)

Turn 2:
Cast the 2 Mana and the 6 Mana Skill and finish it. Use the 2 Mana to gain 3 Mana. 6 Mana Gained + 2. (28). This will leave you with 0 mana and it's very hard to get, so a lot of resets are necessary.

Turn 3:
Use 8 Mana to get 2. 6 Mana Gained (34).

Turn 4:
Use 8 Mana to get 2. 6 Mana Gained (40).

Turn 5:
Use 4 Mana to finish and spend 5 Mana for Stage 1. 6 Mana Gained (46).

Turn 6:
Use 5 Mana to get 1 more. 6 Mana Gained (52)

Turn 7:
Use 10 Mana to get 2 more. 6 Mana Gained (58)

Turn 8:
Use 5 Mana to get 1 more. 6 Mana Gained (64).

Turn 9:
Use 10 Mana to get 2 more. 6 Mana Gained (70).

So, even after doing everything perfectly, I only get to Rank 8 Golden Core.

How do you even get to Rank 9? Where do I get the last 3 Mana?

Image to show end result: https://i.imgur.com/BoAXuIE.png
Last edited by Grandork; Jan 24, 2023 @ 8:26pm
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NotaBear Jan 24, 2023 @ 10:23pm 
did you acquire the crafting perk that allows you to use double the amount of prep elixirs?
Savage.Cabbage Jan 24, 2023 @ 11:45pm 
it was a while since I last played that part of the game, but I think it is doable consistently without needing the crafting perk. I vaguely remember holding on to a ton of cards (was it through using one of the skills?) and at the same time delaying one of the stages by as much as possible (cant remember if it was stage 2 or 3).
Lynn Jan 25, 2023 @ 2:05am 
I play the Chinese version and have no idea how to translate any of the skills so uhhhhh... hope it's understandable.
The 2 Mana +1 skill (小周天吐纳)is very useful if you stay in stage 2 for longer - finish stage 1 in 2 turns, and go in stage 3 on turn 7. Keep all Mana and spend it quickly in the last stage.
It's also fine to cast the 6 Mana skill one more time in the second phase, for Mana control. It can be a net gain.

Three other skills can be useful:
抱元守一 ("clear the mind", can be used once only; costs 2+2 Mana, opens up 3 Mana slots for this process, gets +3 Mana the next turn) allows one to hoard more
气沉丹田 (Mana storage, cost 3 Mana, +3 next turn) hoarding!
逆行经脉 ("reversed circulation", once only, costs 2, immediately +5) grants 3 more Mana.
There's also a crafting perk in the alchemy (?) skill tree, 假丹/imitation core, +1 Mana each turn for this process, and boost the life bar gain I think.
Edit: rechecked your post and you probably have all of these already - then you don't need that much elixir really. The few that was granted during the story, plus one to adjust the Mana ratio, should be enough. Although having more sure makes it safer.

The process roughly goes:
turn 1-2: cast the 6 Mana skill once, 2 Mana skill twice, finish stage 1.
turn 3-5: cast the 6- and 2-Mana skills each turn (maybe skip on 6 when see fit; use the storage skill if needed), get some 气/whatever that's translated to (...) to make sure Mana doesn't exceed the limit.
turn 6: cast the slot opening skill (it's fine to do it earlier, but now the extra slots are kinda needed), storage skill. Have four 气 done at the end of this turn.
turn 7 onward: cast the Mana boost skill if you have it, get the last 气 and freely spend the cards for the last stage.
Last edited by Lynn; Jan 25, 2023 @ 2:20am
Grandork Jan 25, 2023 @ 9:32am 
Seems like the issue is that you NEED Elixir perk. I have gone full on Body, Qi, Sword. Sigh.
Lynn Jan 25, 2023 @ 10:58am 
Originally posted by Grandork:
Seems like the issue is that you NEED Elixir perk. I have gone full on Body, Qi, Sword. Sigh.
Not really... I never had it at that point, and didn't have to s/l that many times to get to rank 9. Be patient and hoard the Mana. It's doable.
Klyern Jan 27, 2023 @ 12:05am 
If you do the proper order of skills and (i think it was) don't use the skill that raises your Qi cap (its net -1 since it costs one more than it raises), you can do it exactly in normal difficulty without alchemy perks and just all the elixirs, the problem is RNG is messed up, you have to draw qi perfectly in the first two turns, then in the last turn, if you don't have perfectly spread qi to do a 3&2 or 5*1 qi, you are screwed and have to start over.

In short 9 core is brutally hard RNG wise for the small bonus it gives. Don't mind it at all unless you are on hard and/or, have alchemy.
DarknessOrLight Jan 29, 2023 @ 1:46pm 
There's a guide I posted in Chinese. You can google translate it and get the idea. No alchemy perks needed, about 50% to get rank 9:

回合
九(三花聚顶):用技能大周天吐纳,开启炼神还虚,用技能小周天吐纳 (先做条件最苛刻的措施,这样更能有效运用灵气)
八(三花聚顶):开启练气化神,练精化气,用技能小周天吐纳
七(五气朝元):用技能大周天吐纳,小周天吐纳
六(五气朝元):用技能大周天吐纳,小周天吐纳,开启第一气
五(五气朝元):用技能大周天吐纳,小周天吐纳,开启第二气
四(五气朝元):用技能包圆守一,气沉丹田,开启第三气,第四气
三(五气朝元):用技能逆行经脉,开启第五气,进入凝液成丹阶段,随意凝聚灵气
二(凝液成丹):随意凝聚灵气
一(凝液成丹):随意凝聚灵气。在进入这阶段时用以上的步骤的话应该有12/8点气来凝聚最后两灵气。
一劍隨風 Feb 21, 2023 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by Grandork:
No matter how many times I've tried, my best was Rank 8. with 2 Mana Left. I can't seem to find a way to gain those 3 extra mana. I have every skill and used all of the prep elixirs.

The 6 Mana for +1 Per Turn is only worth using on Round 1 and 2. Since you have only 9 Rounds, and you start on Round 1, it means that Round 1 gives 8 Mana and Round 2 gives 7 Mana. This gives a total of 3 Mana.

The 2 Mana for +1 Per Turn, but only used during Phase 2 is not that great, since you usually finish it in 3 turns top. This is only pre used in Phase 1, right before transition.

The 2 Mana for 5 Mana is useful.

Over all, it's like this:

Phase 1: 13 Mana
Phase 2: 25 Mana
Phase 3: 45 Mana

Total Mana Needed: 73

Starting Mana: 6 + 6 (12)

Turn 1:
Cast the 6 Mana Skill and do 2 of the 3 things. 6 Mana Gained + 2 (20)

Turn 2:
Cast the 2 Mana and the 6 Mana Skill and finish it. Use the 2 Mana to gain 3 Mana. 6 Mana Gained + 2. (28). This will leave you with 0 mana and it's very hard to get, so a lot of resets are necessary.

Turn 3:
Use 8 Mana to get 2. 6 Mana Gained (34).

Turn 4:
Use 8 Mana to get 2. 6 Mana Gained (40).

Turn 5:
Use 4 Mana to finish and spend 5 Mana for Stage 1. 6 Mana Gained (46).

Turn 6:
Use 5 Mana to get 1 more. 6 Mana Gained (52)

Turn 7:
Use 10 Mana to get 2 more. 6 Mana Gained (58)

Turn 8:
Use 5 Mana to get 1 more. 6 Mana Gained (64).

Turn 9:
Use 10 Mana to get 2 more. 6 Mana Gained (70).

So, even after doing everything perfectly, I only get to Rank 8 Golden Core.

How do you even get to Rank 9? Where do I get the last 3 Mana?

Image to show end result: https://i.imgur.com/BoAXuIE.png

When you try to condense the Golden Core, the probability of mana attributes can be adjusted through five RANK3 pills. The ideal is to choose two of your favorite RANK3 pills. Eat one or two of each to greatly reduce save and load

Sorry I don't know how to translate the name of the herb and the recipe of the pill, I'll try my best.

Take metallicity as an example
Main herb: one rush grass (level3 red grass with a transparent light bulb growing on the stamen, which can be bought in herbal stores, or any kind of level3 herbal medicine whose effect is to boost vitality)

Supporting herbs: six rhinograss (level 2 orange grass with three leaves that look like electric fans, you can buy it in herb stores, the effect of this herb in auxiliary materials is to strengthen the metal mana, there is no substitute for level 2 herbs)

Supporting herbs: one ebony wood (a piece of level 3 white wood, which cannot be bought in the herb store, there is no alternative herb, you can only check if other npc backpacks have it, every February in the market of East Stone Valley, the market of Tianxing City, Wuling City pill stores.There are a large number of NPCs and you can check each of their backpack.)

Balance herb: three red spirit grass (level 2 red herb that looks like seaweed, you can buy it in the herb store, or any 3 level 2 herbs with moderate balance attributes)

The wood property formula is very close to the metal property, you only need to replace the six rhinograss in the supporting herb with six wind spirit flowers (the only herb that looks like a flower at level 2, you can buy it in the herb shop)

The formula of the water attribute needs to replace the six rhinograss in the supporting herb with six francaise (the level 2 blue herb with four very large leaves that look like butterfly wings, which can be bought in the herb shop), because the overall attribute is cold, so in The three red spirit grasses in the balance herb need to be replaced with three fire essence jujubes (level 2 red fruit with red seeds inside, which can be bought in the herb shop)

The formula of the fire attribute needs to replace the six rhinograss in the supporting herbs with six fire essence jujubes (level 2 red fruits with red seeds inside, which can be bought in herbal stores), because the overall attributes are hot, so the three in the balancing herbs The red spirit grass needs to be replaced with three francaise (the level 2 blue herb with four very large leaves that look like butterfly wings, which can be bought in the herb shop)

The soil property formula is very close to the fire property, you only need to replace the six fire essence jujubes (level 2 red fruits with red seeds inside, which can be bought in herbal stores) in the supporting herb with six Radix Ginseng( A gray level2 herb that looks like a stone, you can buy it in the herb shop)
Last edited by 一劍隨風; Feb 21, 2023 @ 8:04am
一劍隨風 Feb 21, 2023 @ 11:06pm 
In addition to the above five attribute pills, you also need two breakthrough pills, which can increase the mana when breaking through

Concentrated Mana Pill: Mana +1 in the first round, you can eat six
Main herb: one Fire Ganoderma lucidum (Like Mushroom Orange Level 4 herbs can be bought on the second floor of the herb store)

Supporting herbs: two ebony wood (a piece of level 3 white wood, which cannot be bought in the herb store, there is no alternative herb, you can only check if other npc backpacks have it, every February in the market of East Stone Valley , the market of Tianxing City, Wuling City pill stores. There are a large number of NPCs and you can check each of their backpack.)

Supporting herbs: one five willow root (brown level 3 herb that looks like a tree root, you can buy it in the herb store)

Balance herb: one fire essence jujubes (level 2 red fruits with red seeds inside, which can be bought in herbal stores)

The second stage of pills: when entering the second stage, mana +1 every round, you can eat one
Main herb: two rush grass (level3 red grass with a transparent light bulb growing on the stamen, which can be bought in herbal stores, or any kind of level3 herbal medicine whose effect is to boost vitality)

Supporting herbs: two Moonflower (the level 4 herb that does not grow like a flower on the second floor of the herb shop, it has the most petals, with yellow and blue-green)

Supporting herbs: one blood bamboo shoots (a level 4 herb that looks like bamboo shoots on the second floor of the herb store, the overall green color has a little red)

Balance herb: one five willow root (brown level 3 herb that looks like a tree root, you can buy it in the herb store)
Namae no nai Feb 24, 2023 @ 2:26pm 
Like what others have said, stay in stage 2 for as long as you can.

Keep using the 4+2 and 1+1 skill for more mana during stage 2 unless you're planning to go into stage 3 in the next round. Only enter stage 3 when you cannot end the current round without giving up mana, which is usually when there're 3-5 rounds left depending on your luck and preparation.
Crash Mar 6, 2023 @ 6:22am 
The operation is right,you need chao yuan dan and ju ding dan to get more mana.
Ricochet May 18, 2024 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Grandork:
Seems like the issue is that you NEED Elixir perk. I have gone full on Body, Qi, Sword. Sigh.

I did it twice with chaotic core without the increase pill resistance enlightenment. I did have the pill golden core at slight understanding, though.

You need the six cores and the two pills digested to maximum tolerance as others have suggested before undergoing the breakthrough.

Turn one to three is crucial. On the first turn, you need to at least get the 2+2 skill and finish the phase one on the same turn. Use luck skill (re-allocation of qi) or reload a save if the qi isn't good.

In turn 2, the 4+2 and 1+1 increased qi per round is crucial. Each turn thereafter, you need to invest in 1+1 skill until transitioning to the next phase. Turn three, you can invest another 4+2. The ultimate goal is having an element cored each turn. That means you have 2-6 turns in this phase. As others have suggested, you can stay in this mode until turn 7 to maximize the 1+1 skill. Make sure to use the luck or reallocation of qi skill to balance out your qi during this phase. You can also use the already cored qi. Do not invest in 1+1 when you're going to the next phase.

If you did 2nd phase right, you should have 3-5 cored on first turn of the next phase with a rebalanced qi/chaos core then use elemental core as needed. Use luck skill/qi reallocation accordingly. the 1+1 and 4+2 at this phase is a wasted investment.
Last edited by Ricochet; May 18, 2024 @ 9:44am
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