Ibba/Viv TIPS

[Corvo_Ex]

I was quite enjoying the game, with the first 2 runners I got through the story mode with relative ease...but I got to Ibba/Viv and hit a wall of difficulty.
Any advice for these 2 runners?

[Daredeviler_21]

with dragon, you want to let off the gas to increase your drift angle by "charging" it, and then when holding the drift stick reapply gas, and use the brakes to manage your speed when approaching corners, it has fast acceleration so trying to maintain top speed is less important, the cleaner you race the faster you'll be, the story cutscenes do actually give legit advice on driving, so pay attention

with chrono, the same method to drift is used, but to an extreme, if you overcharge it you will spin out, and there is a "superdrift" it can achieve with perfect timing, but don't worry about that, tap brakes to reset the drift to neutral too, it's the best method, brakes can be used like the dragon too but chrono can get away with only using brakes to cancel drifts, especially if you can superdrift

if you haven't beaten them already, good luck, also, do note there is one track in ibba's story that you're meant to lose

[metamec]

I managed to complete Ibba's story, but the Viv snow mountain section is absolutely brutal.

[Corvo_Ex]

I have already achieved 100% with Ibba after a lot of effort.
Now with Viv it's got worse, I don't understand how the pirouette works and I understand that it's essential to play with her...

[Jonny]

Superdrifting with Chrono is entirely unnecessary for story mode, just focus on clean drifts. Traditional racing lines (start wide, aim for the apex, out wide) are all you'll need to get through the story.

Viv's SMS challenge seems to be a stumbling block for a lot of people, but so long as you keep to a smooth transition between drifts and trail-brake if you're going too fast then you should get through it just fine. Track knowledge certainly helps, but driving like this can get you across the finish line 10 seconds quicker than the target.

[StillNoob]

I am still stuck on Vivi's stage 1 time trial... I'm not even sure how I managed a 46 during the many practice laps

[Elusive]

i got super stuck at viv's time trial at snow mountain. the thing that eventually got me through it was practicing the 'superdrift' method mentioned above. Fortunately there's a speedrunner who made a guide demonstrating how it works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WvVSrT7XKE

(it's what he refers to as the 'bug flick' in the video)

as he says in the video, you do not need the bug flick to beat snow mountain. i did not use the bug flick to get through the time trial. however, PRACTICING the bug flick did give me the extra little bit of understanding I needed. it gave me a new sense of how to use steep drift angles and when to get back on the throttle. there's no trick to it that i can explain-- the act of playing around with the bug flick, and doing it 'wrong' on purpose, shook me out of my habits, changed up the way i went through the switchbacks at the end, and that's what finally let me cut a few seconds off my time.

i've beaten most of the rest of the game modes, and viv's story is a huge difficulty check compared to just about everything else. it was really hard for me, but i got past it. hang in there.

[Darkblue]

İlk olarak Elusive tarafından gönderildi:

i got super stuck at viv's time trial at snow mountain. the thing that eventually got me through it was practicing the 'superdrift' method mentioned above. Fortunately there's a speedrunner who made a guide demonstrating how it works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WvVSrT7XKE

(it's what he refers to as the 'bug flick' in the video)

as he says in the video, you do not need the bug flick to beat snow mountain. i did not use the bug flick to get through the time trial. however, PRACTICING the bug flick did give me the extra little bit of understanding I needed. it gave me a new sense of how to use steep drift angles and when to get back on the throttle. there's no trick to it that i can explain-- the act of playing around with the bug flick, and doing it 'wrong' on purpose, shook me out of my habits, changed up the way i went through the switchbacks at the end, and that's what finally let me cut a few seconds off my time.

i've beaten most of the rest of the game modes, and viv's story is a huge difficulty check compared to just about everything else. it was really hard for me, but i got past it. hang in there.

I wish I read this 2 years ago.

I play with the keyboard and it took me I don't know how many hours until I beat Viv's mountain sprint, my hands were basically shaking. No tricks, no nothing, basically countless repetition and frustrations.

Someone wrote somewhere that Ibba's campaign is a rite of passage, if you can beat it, it means you have good fundamentals of the game's drifting mechanic, and should be able to adapt to more whacky cars in the game. I wholeheartedly agree with that.

But yes, Viv's story is a definitely huge difficulty spike. The key to that insane level is to maintain the top speed and to commit as little "wasted" drift as possible, that was what worked for me.

[Elusive]

oh man i would not want to do viv's story on keyboard lol. congratulations dude

[Jonny]

İlk olarak Darkblue tarafından gönderildi:

I play with the keyboard and it took me I don't know how many hours until I beat Viv's mountain sprint, my hands were basically shaking. No tricks, no nothing, basically countless repetition and frustrations.

A fellow keyboard user! Not too often I find someone else driving like this. Overall it's not too different from using a controller (and in a lot of cases I actually find it easier), you just have to get used to performing rapid taps on the steering and drifting. But good on you for getting through it in any case!

[thisserviceismadeoffail]

I don't think I will EVER get to grips with the Chrono. even the smoothest I have ever managed to get it running without ever going into a 540 degree spin, that lakeside time trial in Viv's story, the best I can manage is 67 seconds, 40% longer than the target time.

[Jonny]

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I don't think I will EVER get to grips with the Chrono. even the smoothest I have ever managed to get it running without ever going into a 540 degree spin, that lakeside time trial in Viv's story, the best I can manage is 67 seconds, 40% longer than the target time.

You should work on quick release acceleration -> hold drift stick -> resume acceleration input chains. Charging the gyro (bottom orange bar) too far is what's causing to to spin out, limiting how much you're charging it will lead to smaller angle drifts, maintaining more speed through the corners. You can even hold the drift stick before releasing acceleration if the timing is difficult, since the natural buildup while accelerating is pretty slow in Chrono.

[thisserviceismadeoffail]

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İlk olarak thisserviceismadeoffail tarafından gönderildi:

I don't think I will EVER get to grips with the Chrono. even the smoothest I have ever managed to get it running without ever going into a 540 degree spin, that lakeside time trial in Viv's story, the best I can manage is 67 seconds, 40% longer than the target time.

You should work on quick release acceleration -> hold drift stick -> resume acceleration input chains. Charging the gyro (bottom orange bar) too far is what's causing to to spin out, limiting how much you're charging it will lead to smaller angle drifts, maintaining more speed through the corners. You can even hold the drift stick before releasing acceleration if the timing is difficult, since the natural buildup while accelerating is pretty slow in Chrono.

The #1 trick I found was the guide explaining how this car's physics are tied to the game's FPS.

Uncapped my FPS from 60 and as soon as it was running at a smooth 144, I found that the same fraction of a second release of the acceleration that sends me into a spin at 60fps, gets me a smooth corner when the game's running at my monitor's cap. It now takes almost a second of releasing it for the spin to begin instead of it being instant. Shaved 18 seconds off my best time on that run first try after making this change.

Guess it's kinda fitting with the aesthetic that it'd have a "feature" mostly associated with retro games that never expected to be run on faster hardware than the boards they were designed for.

[milky ´ཀ` away]

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İlk olarak Jonny tarafından gönderildi:

You should work on quick release acceleration -> hold drift stick -> resume acceleration input chains. Charging the gyro (bottom orange bar) too far is what's causing to to spin out, limiting how much you're charging it will lead to smaller angle drifts, maintaining more speed through the corners. You can even hold the drift stick before releasing acceleration if the timing is difficult, since the natural buildup while accelerating is pretty slow in Chrono.

The #1 trick I found was the guide explaining how this car's physics are tied to the game's FPS.

Uncapped my FPS from 60 and as soon as it was running at a smooth 144, I found that the same fraction of a second release of the acceleration that sends me into a spin at 60fps, gets me a smooth corner when the game's running at my monitor's cap. It now takes almost a second of releasing it for the spin to begin instead of it being instant. Shaved 18 seconds off my best time on that run first try after making this change.

Guess it's kinda fitting with the aesthetic that it'd have a "feature" mostly associated with retro games that never expected to be run on faster hardware than the boards they were designed for.

I spent five hours trying to do Neon City for Viv.
I have a 240hertz monitor and it was set to “unlimited frame rate.” 5 hours, Carl! It only takes 1.35 minutes to complete. That was impossible. I don't understand how people say, “Just do the skids, it's easy.” Every corner I went through at 160-180km/h and I still couldn't get through.

Anyway, after your post, I decided to put “30fps in settings” and did the race the first time.

[Jonny]

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Anyway, after your post, I decided to put “30fps in settings” and did the race the first time.
:deadslashit2::deadslashit2::deadslashit2:

So you found it easier running at 30fps instead of uncapped? That's very strange, literally everyone I've talked to has had the opposite experience.

[milky ´ཀ` away]

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Anyway, after your post, I decided to put “30fps in settings” and did the race the first time.

So you found it easier running at 30fps instead of uncapped? That's very strange, literally everyone I've talked to has had the opposite experience.

Yes, that's exactly what it is. The picture was terrible, but I won, the first time.

After that, I started playing with the graphics settings, and settled on the following: Vsync off, 1280x720, no frame limit.
And at this point managed to complete 100% of Ibba's story, and also completed Viv's story. But, still don't understand how to win the gold medal in Viv's story in Neon City in the last race. No graphics settings help here, Batista on Raptor just flies over the horizon and there is no catching up.

Won by 10 cars at the grand prix. Just today, I spent 12 hours straight trying to win a grand prix in a Coda Supreno... and I did it. I learned every timing Gunner does, every mistake he makes and I could only overtake at the end.