Any Con to Cha options for lich?

[Toadally Awesome]

To specify, I am aware how Charisma works for undead once you finish your transformation, but my character has like 5 charisma since I am using Wisdom for Persuasion. I went with the devs "promises" of "no mythic path is wrong" and "every class can make use of them".

Is there an option to exchange my ability scores before I become full skeletor or am I basically forced to dip out of lich? Cannot retrain because of difficulty settings.

[RocketMan]

Noooope, but what you can do is a dip a single level into nature oracle to get dex to cha. and then just use a belt of dexterity for feats if two weapon fighting.

That said, the con to cha is really late game, so it's not something I'd plan a build around.

[Toadally Awesome]

I see. I was an inquisitor anyway so I wasn't going to be doing anything major with it, just would suck to lose 50 or so hit points, but I can live with it.

[Deathjester]

I didn't become an undead when i became a lich, are you supposed to lose con and get hp from char? I still have a constitution score.

[Toadally Awesome]

Originally posted by Deathjester:

I didn't become an undead when i became a lich, are you supposed to lose con and get hp from char? I still have a constitution score.

When you become a full lich yes.

[Deathjester]

Originally posted by Toadally Awesome:

Originally posted by Deathjester:

I didn't become an undead when i became a lich, are you supposed to lose con and get hp from char? I still have a constitution score.

When you become a full lich yes.

I'm confused, lots of other players say that you don't become an undead when you become a lich.

A full lich is lvl 8?

[AlexnChaos]

Originally posted by Deathjester:

Originally posted by Toadally Awesome:

When you become a full lich yes.

I'm confused, lots of other players say that you don't become an undead when you become a lich.

A full lich is lvl 8?

and doing the transformation quest, which you can apparently bork if your alignment is wrong etc, final transformations for most if not all paths are like that I believe

[Toadally Awesome]

To summarise what I have found for my question since I posted it, yes, if you complete the transformation at the very end of the game you can become an undead with whatever that entails.

Your alignment can change, what happens at that point depends on story decisions you made and your relationship with the person who helps you become a lich. However, low Charisma is not *that* much of an issue as your own ability that buffs Str/Dex/Cha for nearby undead works on you and an enhancement bonus from equipment brings it to a respectable amount.

That being said, lich combos better with a full caster with non-negative Charisma, so you get the mythic spells earlier on. Me being a half caster, I didn't have that option anyway.

If you are doing the lich path and you are worried you won't like how it ends up, just keep a save so you can opt into stuff like Living Legend or whatever else you have unlocked, when you get the option to stop being a lich.