Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Angel for Lawful Evil?
Hey all. So I usually play my characters as Lawful Evil - Lawful Neutral since I tend to fall in the Roleplay aspect of "Love for my friends, fear for my enemies" I was wondering if an Angelic Mythic path for a Lawful Evil character would be possible? A type of Angel of Vengeance type deal or your stereotypical Fallen Angel type of thing.

I have heard that mythic paths tend to soft arm you into certain alignments, would it even be possible to do a campaign as a LEA? Same with Demon I suppose, which I have only done to the bare minimum.

Thanks all!
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You're locked to certain alignments in different mythic paths, just take a guess what you're locked as an angel. I think the most extreme you can go is a neutral angel.
jonnin 2024年5月20日 11時51分 
lmkBEAST の投稿を引用:
You're locked to certain alignments in different mythic paths, just take a guess what you're locked as an angel. I think the most extreme you can go is a neutral angel.

specifically each path has an alignment associated with it and you can take 1 step away from it per axis. So for angel, which is lawful good, you can be neutral good, or lawful neutral, or stepping both ways, neutral/neutral. Or look at the chart here:
https://pathfinderwrathoftherighteous.wiki.fextralife.com/Mythic+Path

the game will help you adjust your alignment to meet the path you want if that is an issue. But that may break your class if it has a restriction, eg you simply wont be able to paladin lich.
最近の変更はjonninが行いました; 2024年5月20日 11時53分
You cannot do lawful evil as angel. Lawful good, neutral good, or lawful neutral. If you want lawful evil, just take devil path. Or it looks like a possibility as aeon.
Thanks everyone!
Drake 2024年5月20日 14時32分 
Well, technically you can. You'll just fail at a certain point and won't be able to level up as angel.
It's the same for all regular paths, you'll usually get into a fail state at around rank 8.

Also, If you want a fallen mythic path story as a playthrough. I would recommend to pick aeon or azata instead. they actually have a mechanic where you can fail and fall in a specific way and turn into a devil.

The thing with the devil path is that instead of removing the benefits of previous path like legend/dragon/swarm, you actually retain most of your previous path powers (you'll keep the mythic spells up to lv 4 etc.).
Interestingly enough, the devil path itself actually lets you use some angel and demon abilities in addition to your aeon or azata path and the devil contract powers.

I did a lawful evil aeon turned devil and corrupting is was fun to play.
最近の変更はDrakeが行いました; 2024年5月20日 14時33分
lawful is so utterly evil in this game you will not miss the evil part...
Suspicious Entity の投稿を引用:
Hey all. So I usually play my characters as Lawful Evil - Lawful Neutral since I tend to fall in the Roleplay aspect of "Love for my friends, fear for my enemies" I was wondering if an Angelic Mythic path for a Lawful Evil character would be possible? A type of Angel of Vengeance type deal or your stereotypical Fallen Angel type of thing.

I have heard that mythic paths tend to soft arm you into certain alignments, would it even be possible to do a campaign as a LEA? Same with Demon I suppose, which I have only done to the bare minimum.

Thanks all!
in pathfinder, angels as a race are Lawful Good. Likewise, every Demon is Chaotic Evil.

So, no surprise, the mythic path for angel is blocked for lawful evil. You could be lawful neutral or neutral good, as an angel, but evil is too far from good.

The Lawful Evil path is the Devil, but without giving too much away, that one can't be started as devil, you have to select it after selecting either the Aeon or the Azata and then changing under certain circumstances.

The Lawful Neutral path works fine for Lawful Evil Characters, which is the Aeon path.

The Lich path is the neutral evil path, which would also work for lawful evil characters.
Suspicious Entity の投稿を引用:
Hey all. So I usually play my characters as Lawful Evil - Lawful Neutral since I tend to fall in the Roleplay aspect of "Love for my friends, fear for my enemies" I was wondering if an Angelic Mythic path for a Lawful Evil character would be possible? A type of Angel of Vengeance type deal or your stereotypical Fallen Angel type of thing.

I have heard that mythic paths tend to soft arm you into certain alignments, would it even be possible to do a campaign as a LEA? Same with Demon I suppose, which I have only done to the bare minimum.

Thanks all!
My suggestion just get Toybox and enable all options that ignore alignment requirements. The game is more fun that way.
jedi7000nathan/sevenbillionjedi の投稿を引用:
My suggestion just get Toybox and enable all options that ignore alignment requirements. The game is more fun that way.
Nothing wrong with toybox, but just a heads up to the OP, once you install toybox, this game will, by default, stop giving you steam achievements and will further modify your save files so even if you remove toybox, they still can't earn achievements.

Pretty sure you can reenable the achievements from within toybox, so it's mostly a non issue, but if wondering why you aren't earning achievements, that would be why.
jonnin 2024年6月11日 11時55分 
Brother Santodes の投稿を引用:
lawful is so utterly evil in this game you will not miss the evil part...

Hulrun or whatever his name is makes a case for this, but plenty of other LG and LN characters are not so horrible. Seelah is a good person. Lann is lawful and not horrible, and so on.
it's the characters choice you do that are supposedly lawful.
which is usually killing people on the spot without giving them a chance to defend them self.
Brother Santodes の投稿を引用:
it's the characters choice you do that are supposedly lawful.
which is usually killing people on the spot without giving them a chance to defend them self.
Why would it be more lawful to give them a chance to defend themselves? Doing the most efficient method to execute the law is much more lawful than leaving things to the chance of combat...

Our real life lawful society doesn't exactly give death row inmates a means to defend themselves. Not saying that modern death sentences are right or wrong, but in terms of lawful punishments, slaying helpless prisoners is pretty normal even in our modern era.

Leaving things to chance, such as death by duel, seems kinda chaotic in nature. Might makes right sort of solution.
how do death row inmates get to be a death row inmate? a judge or something not one person using his gut feeling that one broke the law execute.

if you find someone that looks like to break the law you can kill him on the spot in this game as a lawful action.

it is seen as lawful to punish freed prison in this game before a judge or jury has a look at this.

when i say defend i mean in court not in a duel...

there is literally a decision in the game with possessed soldier.
let's see what you think this game sees as:
End their lives
Perform an exorcism
Use them in battle
Imprison the spirits
Cleanse the corrupted spirits

one of them is demon only.
Brother Santodes の投稿を引用:
how do death row inmates get to be a death row inmate? a judge or something not one person using his gut feeling that one broke the law execute.

if you find someone that looks like to break the law you can kill him on the spot in this game as a lawful action.
You can also do it as a good character, in this game.

You are the ruler and sole judge in the city. Whether you (the player) approve of their legal system is entirely something else, it's still regarded as lawful because you have the legal authority to do so.
Brother Santodes の投稿を引用:
when i say defend i mean in court not in a duel...
Fail, totally missed that one.

Yeah, that's a moot point because you are the sole judge, jury, and executioner....so really, your opinion of what is the correct thing to do is all that matters.

That said, just because your character is lawful, you don't have to do every single lawful action you find. You can be chaotic sometimes, good sometimes, evil sometimes, and neutral sometimes, you just need to be mostly lawful to stay lawful alignment.

So, yeah, if one of the lawful options seems wrong to do, don't do it. If every lawful option seems wrong, perhaps you should play another alignment...

My lawful evil lich recently shifted to neutral evil, through many dialogue choices. I could go back, too, if I want to be lawful again.
最近の変更はChronocideが行いました; 2024年6月15日 22時29分
the thread starter wanted to play lawful evil angel.
and my point is that selecting lawful in his game is so utterly evil you are not going to miss evil to do utterly evil stuff.

been lawful in this game is often been as evil as it can get. this has nothing todo with what you do or what you want to play it's just how the game is. this game aliment is so broken that by not selecting a single evil option your character would be an nonredeemable monster in real life. do never forget this game has an absolute monster in it that is supposed to be redeemed by been sorry for been a mass murder and worse by been controlled by a god to feel sorry... this writing (not the game dev to blame here...).

they don't have lawful evil options to make it more clear they removed that in this game kingmaker had this which also had issue because choatic evil in kingmaker was just been stupid.
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